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stef -> RE: Rothschilds (5/30/2017 6:19:53 PM)


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ORIGINAL: Lucylastic

Since our resident theorist is barking mad, it should go under polls and random stupidity


I question the randomness of this stupidity.




Musicmystery -> RE: Rothschilds (5/30/2017 6:36:27 PM)

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They were the pioneers of international banking, and for sure they own shares in the federal reserve.


No one "owns shares in the Federal Reserve" in the sense of conventional stock ownership.

The stockholders in the 12 regional Federal Reserve Banks are the privately owned banks that fall under the Federal Reserve System. These include all national banks (chartered by the federal government) and those state-chartered banks that wish to join and meet certain requirements. About 38 percent of the nation’s more than 8,000 banks are members of the system, and thus own the Fed banks.

The concept of “ownership” needs some explaining here, however. The member banks must by law invest 3 percent of their capital as stock in the Reserve Banks, and they cannot sell or trade their stock or even use that stock as collateral to borrow money. They do receive dividends of 6 percent per year from the Reserve Banks and get to elect each Reserve Bank’s board of directors.
The private banks also have a voice in regulating the nation’s money supply and setting targets for short-term interest rates, but it’s a minority voice. Those decisions are made by the Federal Open Market Committee, which has a dozen voting members, only five of whom come from the banks. The remaining seven, a voting majority, are the Fed’s Board of Governors who, as mentioned, are appointed by the president.

As the nation’s central bank, the Federal Reserve derives its authority from the U.S. Congress. It is considered an independent central bank because its decisions do not have to be ratified by the President or anyone else in the executive or legislative branch of government, it does not receive funding appropriated by Congress, and the terms of the members of the Board of Governors span multiple presidential and congressional terms. However, the Federal Reserve is subject to oversight by Congress, which periodically reviews its activities and can alter its responsibilities by statute. Also, the Federal Reserve must work within the framework of the overall objectives of economic and financial policy established by the government. Therefore, the Federal Reserve can be more accurately described as “independent within the government.”

The twelve regional Federal Reserve Banks, which were established by Congress as the operating arms of the nation’s central banking system, are organized much like private corporations–possibly leading to some confusion about “ownership.” For example, the Reserve Banks issue shares of stock to member banks. However, owning Reserve Bank stock is quite different from owning stock in a private company. The Reserve Banks are not operated for profit, and ownership of a certain amount of stock is, by law, a condition of membership in the System. The stock may not be sold, traded, or pledged as security for a loan; dividends are, by law, 6 percent per year.

http://www.factcheck.org/2008/03/federal-reserve-bank-ownership/




Termyn8or -> RE: Rothschilds (5/30/2017 6:56:39 PM)

They can own stock in the banks that own stock.

And, the federal reserve is incorporated in Delaware. Want to see the papers ? I have seen a certified copy from the state and have pictures of them. To get the real certified copies you must write to the state of Delaware and send them a few bucks for copying and notary fees.

The federal reserve however, has pretty much the same power as the government. If they raised the prime rate two points you would see their power. Also, they refuse to be audited.

Now don't give me shit about they have been audited. Ask Alan Grayson who grilled a fed official over a missing trillion bucks. There is also footage of one fed head on youtube somewhere when asked about an audit said "Not happening, ever".

T^T




Musicmystery -> RE: Rothschilds (5/30/2017 7:07:54 PM)

They could. And they would own a very small slice of the Fed. Which wouldn't help them much, as noted above.

But clearly, this is an area where beliefs are going to contradict facts.

So have fun. Take notes for your novel!




tamaka -> RE: Rothschilds (5/30/2017 7:32:06 PM)

Honestly no one should have that kind of money.




NoirMetal -> RE: Rothschilds (5/30/2017 7:47:06 PM)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-b5aW08ivHU




tamaka -> RE: Rothschilds (5/30/2017 7:55:40 PM)

Seriously it is a danger to humanity for one family to possess that kind of financial power.




Real0ne -> RE: Rothschilds (5/30/2017 9:13:32 PM)

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ORIGINAL: Lucylastic

Since our resident theorist is barking mad, it should go under polls and random stupidity




ah I see you and the 3 stooges are still suffering the pain of the last time I handed you your ass! and here I thought you all had cast iron assholes.

Here ya go, SUCK IT UP BUTTERCUP




My queries to bank regulatory agencies regarding stock ownership in the top 25 US bank holding companies were given Freedom of Information Act status, before being denied on “national security” grounds. This is rather ironic, since many of the bank’s stockholders reside in Europe.

One important repository for the wealth of the global oligarchy that owns these bank holding companies is US Trust Corporation – founded in 1853 and now owned by Bank of America.

A recent US Trust Corporate Director and Honorary Trustee was Walter Rothschild. Other directors included Daniel Davison of JP Morgan Chase, Richard Tucker of Exxon Mobil, Daniel Roberts of Citigroup and Marshall Schwartz of Morgan Stanley. [2]

J. W. McCallister, an oil industry insider with House of Saud connections, wrote in The Grim Reaper that information he acquired from Saudi bankers cited 80% ownership of the New York Federal Reserve Bank- by far the most powerful Fed branch- by just eight families, four of which reside in the US.

They are the Goldman Sachs, Rockefellers, Lehmans and Kuhn Loebs of New York; the Rothschilds of Paris and London; the Warburgs of Hamburg; the Lazards of Paris; and the Israel Moses Seifs of Rome.

CPA Thomas D. Schauf corroborates McCallister’s claims, adding that ten banks control all twelve Federal Reserve Bank branches.


He names N.M. Rothschild of London, Rothschild Bank of Berlin, Warburg Bank of Hamburg, Warburg Bank of Amsterdam, Lehman Brothers of New York, Lazard Brothers of Paris, Kuhn Loeb Bank of New York, Israel Moses Seif Bank of Italy, Goldman Sachs of New York and JP Morgan Chase Bank of New York. Schauf lists William Rockefeller, Paul Warburg, Jacob Schiff and James Stillman as individuals who own large shares of the Fed. [3]

The Schiffs are insiders at Kuhn Loeb. The Stillmans are Citigroup insiders, who married into the Rockefeller clan at the turn of the century.

Eustace Mullins came to the same conclusions in his book The Secrets of the Federal Reserve, in which he displays charts connecting the Fed and its member banks to the families of Rothschild, Warburg, Rockefeller and the others. [4]

These 13 Families Rule the World: The Shadow Forces Behind the NWO

The control that these banking families exert over the global economy cannot be overstated and is quite intentionally shrouded in secrecy.

Their corporate media arm is quick to discredit any information exposing this private central banking cartel as “conspiracy theory”. Yet the facts remain.

The House of Morgan

The Federal Reserve Bank was born in 1913, the same year US banking scion J. Pierpont Morgan died and the Rockefeller Foundation was formed.

Mega-banker J. P. Morgan

The House of Morgan presided over American finance from the corner of Wall Street and Broad, acting as quasi-US central bank since 1838, when George Peabody founded it in London.

Peabody was a business associate of the Rothschilds. In 1952 Fed researcher Eustace Mullins put forth the supposition that the Morgans were nothing more than Rothschild agents. Mullins wrote that the Rothschilds, “…preferred to operate anonymously in the US behind the facade of J.P. Morgan & Company”. [5]

Author Gabriel Kolko stated:

“Morgan’s activities in 1895-1896 in selling US gold bonds in Europe were based on an alliance with the House of Rothschild.” [6]

The Morgan financial octopus wrapped its tentacles quickly around the globe. Morgan Grenfell operated in London. Morgan et Ce ruled Paris. The Rothschild’s Lambert cousins set up Drexel & Company in Philadelphia.

The House of Morgan catered to the Astors, DuPonts, Guggenheims, Vanderbilts and Rockefellers. It financed the launch of AT&T, General Motors, General Electric and DuPont. Like the London-based Rothschild and Barings banks, Morgan became part of the power structure in many countries.

By 1890 the House of Morgan was lending to Egypt’s central bank, financing Russian railroads, floating Brazilian provincial government bonds and funding Argentine public works projects.

A recession in 1893 enhanced Morgan’s power. That year Morgan saved the US government from a bank panic, forming a syndicate to prop up government reserves with a shipment of $62 million worth of Rothschild gold. [7]

Morgan was the driving force behind Western expansion in the US, financing and controlling West-bound railroads through voting trusts. In 1879 Cornelius Vanderbilt’s Morgan-financed New York Central Railroad gave preferential shipping rates to John D. Rockefeller’s budding Standard Oil monopoly, cementing the Rockefeller/Morgan relationship.

The House of Morgan now fell under Rothschild and Rockefeller family control. A New York Herald headline read, “Railroad Kings Form Gigantic Trust”. J. Pierpont Morgan, who once stated, “Competition is a sin”, now opined gleefully,

“Think of it. All competing railroad traffic west of St. Louis placed in the control of about thirty men.”[8]

Morgan and Edward Harriman’s banker Kuhn Loeb held a monopoly over the railroads, while banking dynasties Lehman, Goldman Sachs and Lazard joined the Rockefellers in controlling the US industrial base. [9]

In 1903 Banker’s Trust was set up by the Eight Families. Benjamin Strong of Banker’s Trust was the first Governor of the New York Federal Reserve Bank. The 1913 creation of the Fed fused the power of the Eight Families to the military and diplomatic might of the US government.

If their overseas loans went unpaid, the oligarchs could now deploy US Marines to collect the debts. Morgan, Chase and Citibank formed an international lending syndicate.

The House of Morgan was cozy with the British House of Windsor and the Italian House of Savoy. The Kuhn Loebs, Warburgs, Lehmans, Lazards, Israel Moses Seifs and Goldman Sachs also had close ties to European royalty.

By 1895 Morgan controlled the flow of gold in and out of the US. The first American wave of mergers was in its infancy and was being promoted by the bankers.

In 1897 there were sixty-nine industrial mergers. By 1899 there were twelve-hundred. In 1904 John Moody – founder of Moody’s Investor Services – said it was impossible to talk of Rockefeller and Morgan interests as separate. [10]

Public distrust of the combine spread. Many considered them traitors working for European old money. Rockefeller’s Standard Oil, Andrew Carnegie’s US Steel and Edward Harriman’s railroads were all financed by banker Jacob Schiff at Kuhn Loeb, who worked closely with the European Rothschilds.

Several Western states banned the bankers. Populist preacher William Jennings Bryan was thrice the Democratic nominee for President from 1896 -1908. The central theme of his anti-imperialist campaign was that America was falling into a trap of “financial servitude to British capital”.

Teddy Roosevelt defeated Bryan in 1908, but was forced by this spreading populist wildfire to enact the Sherman Anti-Trust Act. He then went after the Standard Oil Trust.

In 1912 the Pujo hearings were held, addressing concentration of power on Wall Street. That same year Mrs. Edward Harriman sold her substantial shares in New York’s Guaranty Trust Bank to J.P. Morgan, creating Morgan Guaranty Trust.

Judge Louis Brandeis convinced President Woodrow Wilson to call for an end to interlocking board directorates. In 1914 the Clayton Anti-Trust Act was passed.

Jack Morgan – J. Pierpont’s son and successor – responded by calling on Morgan clients Remington and Winchester to increase arms production. He argued that the US needed to enter WWI. Goaded by the Carnegie Foundation and other oligarchy fronts, Wilson accommodated.

As Charles Tansill wrote in America Goes to War, “Even before the clash of arms, the French firm of Rothschild Freres cabled to Morgan & Company in New York suggesting the flotation of a loan of $100 million, a substantial part of which was to be left in the US to pay for French purchases of American goods.”

The House of Morgan financed half the US war effort, while receiving commissions for lining up contractors like GE, Du Pont, US Steel, Kennecott and ASARCO. All were Morgan clients.

Morgan also financed the British Boer War in South Africa and the Franco-Prussian War. The 1919 Paris Peace Conference was presided over by Morgan, which led both German and Allied reconstruction efforts. [11]

In the 1930’s populism resurfaced in America after Goldman Sachs, Lehman Bank and others profited from the Crash of 1929. [12]

House Banking Committee Chairman Louis McFadden (D-NY) said of the Great Depression:

“It was no accident. It was a carefully contrived occurrence…The international bankers sought to bring about a condition of despair here so they might emerge as rulers of us all”.


Sen. Gerald Nye (D-ND) chaired a munitions



I believe it was the 2003 or 4 chicago edition of the fed res brochure where they actually admitted and were bragging about how they print money out of thin air to insure liquidity. I scanned and saved it, but damned if I am going to go through thousands of archived photos to find it for anyone.




Real0ne -> RE: Rothschilds (5/30/2017 9:25:13 PM)

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ORIGINAL: tamaka

Honestly no one should have that kind of money.



well that is the family worth. Hamilton was a rothschild agent through 'patroonship', that is how they bring others in spread the money around and maintain loyalty.

You can imagine the hate champaign that the rothchilds can level against people and/or nations that piss them off!

Oh and rothschild is the zionist that orchestrated the anti-jewish zionist movement coup


[img]http://i123.photobucket.com/albums/o296/nine_one_one/holycausts/3815949_orig.png[/img]

I wonder if that pissed them off?

and how they would retaliate






Real0ne -> RE: Rothschilds (5/30/2017 9:45:30 PM)

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ORIGINAL: Musicmystery

No one sane.




Populism prevailed and Jackson was re-elected. In 1835 he was the target of an assassination attempt. The gunman was Richard Lawrence, who confessed that he was, “in touch with the powers in Europe”. [9]

Still, in 1836 Jackson refused to renew the BUS charter. Under his watch the US national debt went to zero for the first and last time in our nation’s history.

This angered the international bankers, whose primary income is derived from interest payments on debt. BUS President Nicholas Biddle cut off funding to the US government in 1842, plunging the US into a depression. Biddle was an agent for the Paris-based Jacob Rothschild. [10]

The Mexican War was simultaneously sprung on Jackson.

and I assure you that was not a coincidence, honest abe.


seems pretty real to me what were you saying about sane?




Real0ne -> RE: Rothschilds (5/30/2017 10:00:35 PM)


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ORIGINAL: jlf1961

The banks that the Rothschild family are connected to actually have more financial clout world wide than the Federal Reserve.

As far as conspiracy theories go, 1 in 20 turn out to have any truth to them, for example, Watergate, Iran Contra, Gulf of Tonkin incident.

The fun ones to follow are those involving the NWO, Illuminati, the 9/11 stuff, JFK and RFK assassinations, and the FEMA 'detention center/death camps.'

Then there are the ones that popped up during the last election, including Pizzagate where some ultra right wing nut job showed up at a Pizza parlor armed to the teeth to rescue all the children being used in a child pornography/prostitution ring connected to Hillary Clinton and the DNC.




The fun ones to follow are those involving the NWO, The United States, Illuminati, Weishaupt, the 9/11 stuff, come git some jeff you wont last 3 rounds with me JFK come git some jeff you wont last 3 rounds with me and RFK assassinations, and the FEMA 'detention center/death camps.'

go ahead start a thread on 911, see if you can last 3 rounds.




Real0ne -> RE: Rothschilds (5/30/2017 10:20:18 PM)

here is a conspiracy, one of many

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dOqDM6ypiPk



rothchild royalty

The Dynasty of Rothschild | The Only Trillionaires in the World - Full Documentary









Real0ne -> RE: Rothschilds (5/31/2017 10:22:05 AM)

This does provide for an interesting point, that all it takes to install a new religion in any country or across the world is lots of money and a country full of useful slave idiots that feed and thrive on bullshit, then cry piss and moan when they get screwed at every turn because they can see that they shit their own beds. Our gubmints not only let these monopolies thrive they joined them! Well maybe with the exception of hitler lincoln and kennedy who arguably stood up to the grand zion overlord and paid the price for it with their life LMFAO SUCK IT UP BUTTERCUP!




Real0ne -> RE: Rothschilds (6/20/2017 8:58:33 AM)

see look at what an unpopular topic this is for the zio-gandists LOL

they like it that they are collared and pulled around by their leashes [8|]




WhoreMods -> RE: Rothschilds (6/20/2017 9:01:15 AM)


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ORIGINAL: Lucylastic

Since our resident theorist is barking mad, it should go under polls and random stupidity


Why would you want holocaust boy stinking up a fun and entertaining forum?




Real0ne -> RE: Rothschilds (6/20/2017 9:20:58 AM)


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ORIGINAL: WhoreMods


quote:

ORIGINAL: Lucylastic

Since our resident theorist is barking mad, it should go under polls and random stupidity


Why would you want holocaust boy stinking up a fun and entertaining forum?



yeh the last fucking thing either of you want are facts to spoil your ziojiz masturbation.

hitler did after all arrest and spank your god, Lord Rothschild, no surprise you are all pissing yourselves.





WhoreMods -> RE: Rothschilds (6/20/2017 9:22:52 AM)


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ORIGINAL: Real0ne


quote:

ORIGINAL: WhoreMods


quote:

ORIGINAL: Lucylastic

Since our resident theorist is barking mad, it should go under polls and random stupidity


Why would you want holocaust boy stinking up a fun and entertaining forum?



yeh the last fucking thing either of you want are facts to spoil your ziojiz masturbation.

hitler did after all arrest and spank your god, Lord Rothschild, no surprise you are all pissing yourselves.



Really? You're claiming he didn't arrest any jews on your holocaust thread. Come back when you've found those missing 475,000 stiffs at Dresden.




Real0ne -> RE: Rothschilds (6/20/2017 9:25:25 AM)

as usual you are lying about what I claim, troll bot.
Yeh come back when you find the missing 6 million [8|]




WhoreMods -> RE: Rothschilds (6/20/2017 9:29:08 AM)


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ORIGINAL: Real0ne

as usual you are lying about what I claim, troll bot.
Yeh come back when you find the missing 6 million


Doing your whole "misremembering when caught in a fib" thing again are you, Eva?




MrRodgers -> RE: Rothschilds (6/20/2017 10:53:01 AM)


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ORIGINAL: Musicmystery

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Watergate, Iran Contra, Gulf of Tonkin incident.


Except those are actual events, not "conspiracy theories."

Well there are a few facts that do come into play here. First, the very expression 'conspiracy theorist' was first widely promulgated by the CIA in the wake of such after the Kennedy assassination.

Then to use the term we can go back and understand that the two biggest conspiracy theories in world history were true.

The earth was flat (many still claim it is) and [it] revolved around the sun and the orthodox Muslim will tell you...the earth is stationary.

Next, a few facts about the Rothschilds:

At one time had all of the sons of the patriarch, controlling every central bank in Europe.

Have created vast wealthy partnerships in banking and expressly for control and to remain behind the scenes. One example was that when J.P. Morgan died, it was discovered to almost everyone's surprise, that the Rothschilds owned 80% of his banking empire.

It has since been discovered try as they might to keep it secret, the Rothchilds own majority interest in many large western banks including retail and investment banking including central banks. More than a few suggest and with little argument, that Rothchild banks own so much western debt and particularly govt. debt. that they can from behind the scene...dictate govt. financial policy or...by rigging (fixing) interest rates (not like that hasn't happened many times) and bring economies to their knees.

That's about all I have even though I am sure...there is more. Except that while one can only estimate, the family is easily, far and away, the richest family in world history being worth many Trillion$ and yes...that's Trillion$.




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