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HAPPY CHANUKAH ? HANUKKAHH ? TO THOSE WHOM CELEBRATE TH... - 12/8/2004 2:57:23 AM   
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OK OK Im a word dunce when it comes to Jewish language or Judism so help Me here guys......Which word is right?? AND happy celebration!!
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RE: HAPPY CHANUKAH ? HANUKKAHH ? TO THOSE WHOM CELEBRAT... - 12/8/2004 4:01:23 AM   
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RE: HAPPY CHANUKAH ? HANUKKAHH ? TO THOSE WHOM CELEBRAT... - 12/8/2004 5:01:30 AM   
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hebrew does not quite transliterate into english accurately. Hebrew uses sounds that have no phonetic equivalent in our alphabet, so there are actually several spellings. Currently, Chanukah is considered the most accurate spelling, but hanukkah is also correct and acceptable. The actual sound for that first dipthong is a deep throated qough, the sort of sound you make when you're hocking up a loogie. It would also be correct (but annoying to everyone around you, and somewhat pretentious in an uncool sort of way) to spell it Xanucha (although the hard-h sound for X is more often used in spanish than in english, at least currently)

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RE: HAPPY CHANUKAH ? HANUKKAHH ? TO THOSE WHOM CELEBRAT... - 12/9/2004 2:28:09 PM   
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Dread,
It's the thought that counts, so potatoe, potato, chanukah, hanukkah, it's all the same thing!
As a Jew who practices the holidays with his children, I think Hanukkah is a nicer holiday than Christmas.
It is a bit of a generalization, but if you ask a catholic kid what Christmas is about, he will most likely say Santa comes and brings me toys. Most Jewish children when asked what Hanukkah is about, will tell you the story of Hanukkah.


Happy Hanukkah to all






As a side note, the Jewish religion has strong ties to the BDSM lifestyle.

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RE: HAPPY CHANUKAH ? HANUKKAHH ? TO THOSE WHOM CELEBRAT... - 12/9/2004 5:36:31 PM   
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Actually, if you ask a CATHOLIC kid, who has actually been raised catholic, more often than not they'll tell you about the annunciation, birth, three magi, et cetra. Catholics usually send their kids to school, and frequently the kids actually absorb this stuff as part of their chatechism. This isn't, of course, 100% true for the entire catholic population (nothing is), but partly this is because lapsed catholics usually just throw up their hands and call themselves agnostic. Other branches of christiandom (again, a sweeping generalization and not nessesarily indicitive of any individual or even smaller community units) typically have a larger number of parishoners who go to church because it is expected of them, without having ever actually bothered to pay attention to any of the rituals, mysteries, or observances of their religion.

Of course, as a second generation pagan, I cackle with glee every time I see a father christmas figure, christmas tree, mistletoe, holly wreath, yule log, peppermint pig, reindeer, or other attribute of the "old ways" rearing it's head as part of the seasonal festivities. St. Augustine would be aghast, and anything that would shock that dirty old prude is fine by me!

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RE: HAPPY CHANUKAH ? HANUKKAHH ? TO THOSE WHOM CELEBRAT... - 12/9/2004 6:17:03 PM   
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quote:

the Jewish religion has strong ties to the BDSM lifestyle.


I wouldn't exactly say that. However it is the time of year to get all those cute little paraffin candles for next to nothing.
Wax play anyone?

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RE: HAPPY CHANUKAH ? HANUKKAHH ? TO THOSE WHOM CELEBRAT... - 12/9/2004 7:08:00 PM   
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quote:

I wouldn't exactly say that.


Orthodox Jews make their wives sit in the back of the Temple, they make their roles as subserviant very clear to them, they have them shave their heads so as not to be attractive to other men, do you see where this is going?

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RE: HAPPY CHANUKAH ? HANUKKAHH ? TO THOSE WHOM CELEBRAT... - 12/9/2004 7:19:30 PM   
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The Orthodox Jews I've known never had their wives heads shaved or anything like that.

Even most Rabbi's I have known didn't seem that way to me. I mean I am female and all of that. Of course I never went home with one either.

I do realize each temple runs its own way too. Guess I just haven't run into the types you have yet.

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RE: HAPPY CHANUKAH ? HANUKKAHH ? TO THOSE WHOM CELEBRAT... - 12/9/2004 7:57:36 PM   
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In the U.S. there are 4 major sects of Judaism.

They are Chasidim, Orthodox, Conservative, and Reformed.

Some Orthodox Jews still practice the head shaving, and wear wigs in public, it goes against the ideals, but it is done as not to call attention to them. They also wear decorative scarves as well.


The status of a Jewish woman's hair changes when she marries. The reason for this originates from the ritual described in the Torah for an adulterous wife. If a married woman voluntarily has an affair, her husband may not resume relations with her. If he suspects his wife of an affair, and warns her not to seclude herself with a specific man, if she ignores his warning, the Torah requires that she drink "bitter waters" which, if she did in fact sin, will bring about her death. If she admits to having sinned, she need not drink the water. Therefore, the Torah requires that she be subjected to a series of inconveniences, in order to encourage her to confess. One of the humiliations she must endure is to have her hair uncovered. We see from here that the Torah intended a married woman to normally cover her hair, and therefore, it becomes as necessary for her to cover it, as it is necessary for her to cover the other parts of her body that modesty dictates. Many women, particularly among the Chasidic communities, take this obligation so seriously that in order that they not "accidentally" happen to show hair, they prefer to shave it off and keep it off that way. Today, it has become popular among most women who cover their hair, to wear fashionable wigs, called "Shaitels", when they go out in public. Otherwise, and usually around the house, they will wear scarves, hats and the like over their heads. A woman's husband may see her hair, but not while he is engaged in prayer.

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RE: HAPPY CHANUKAH ? HANUKKAHH ? TO THOSE WHOM CELEBRAT... - 12/10/2004 8:42:56 PM   
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Don't believe everything you read on the internet.

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RE: HAPPY CHANUKAH ? HANUKKAHH ? TO THOSE WHOM CELEBRAT... - 12/11/2004 9:09:13 PM   
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quote:

Orthodox Jews make their wives sit in the back of the Temple, they make their roles as subserviant very clear to them, they have them shave their heads so as not to be attractive to other men, do you see where this is going?


UUhmm, that there are no Jewish female dominants? HHmm,,,,,


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RE: HAPPY CHANUKAH ? HANUKKAHH ? TO THOSE WHOM CELEBRAT... - 12/15/2004 4:24:18 PM   
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I know of a couple Sandy. Just what I was thinking.

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RE: HAPPY CHANUKAH ? HANUKKAHH ? TO THOSE WHOM CELEBRAT... - 12/26/2004 11:35:53 PM   
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WOW
I even learned more about Christianity on this tread!
Thanks! and Happy Christmas all~

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RE: HAPPY CHANUKAH ? HANUKKAHH ? TO THOSE WHOM CELEBRAT... - 12/26/2004 11:37:00 PM   
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Oh yes and a hope for a warm winter solstice and happy Kwanzaa!!

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