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The real face of the Democrats - 6/1/2017 8:50:35 PM   
Thinker2


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Status: offline 		I am a Republican. A middle of the road Republican. Might be the last middle of the road ANYTHING left in this country. I believe in facts and in history. I don't like hype. I believe in traditions.

I think this is probably the last straw, the last shot across the bow, from the Democratic party. I am puzzled how people who claim to respect Democracy, who claim to value the process, who claim to believe in Freedom and in our country, can be so incredibly PETTY and SMALL minded. Miss Griffin's photo was literally the last straw.

Trump was voted in fair and square, in a system that has been pretty much the same in its core for decades. He may have not won the popular vote, but he did win enough delegates to be elected President. In my understanding of history, this is the way it has pretty much almost always worked in this country. I remember listening to an NPR story and talking about the Clinton to Bush transition and how some government employees in DC were so angry that they took keys off keyboards on their way out to sabotage the new administration..... fair play....

I am sincerely appalled by the actions of these "freedom loving", "democracy supporting" people. Lets not talk about the property carnage of some recent marches, that can be "debated".

Let's get specific. Madonna's comment of thinking a lot about blowing up the White House. Sarah Silverman calling for the armed forces to overthrow the government. And now Kathy Griffin posing with a bloody semblance of the President's head in just the way that militant Islamist have posed with the heads of so many beheaded Americans. All with retractions that sounded as sincere as OJ's testimony. How would the family of Steve Sotloff or James Foley feel about this? How about the families of American servicemen who fought and gave their lives in defense of this country? Where is the respect let alone love of this country? The respect for the Democratic process? The title? The office? Anything? I have seen two year olds in the midst of a tantrum more composed than that.

I read in an article (I believe it was in Vox) after a tirade about President Trump that Miss Clinton won little less than 500 counties of about less than 3200 total, and that most of the ones that she won were affluent.

I will not get into whitewater. I will not get into the email scandal. In my opinion those were good enough reasons for Miss Clinton NOT to get elected. Even though I am a Republican, I would have crossed party lines and voted for Bernie but the Democratic machine, wanted to shove Miss Clinton down our throat the way they did with President Obama. I came from Illinois before moving to Arizona, and his dirty laundry there is much more well known than in the rest of the country. I find it interesting, that people who are in the lifestyle unconditionally accepted President Obama, discounting the way he won his senate seat against Jack Ryan and the unsealing of Jack Ryan's custody papers. But hey, I guess "we Republicans" are not the only ones with blindspots....

I wonder why a party, which in its core has become judgmental, pretentious and arrogant, might have alienated the core of the American population. Traditionally blue states, came out and voted for Trump, a man who was not even embraced or endorsed by his own party. A man deeply flawed. IF I belonged in a party that lost to THAT man, I would be angry as well. Not because I lost, not because he won, but because that says something about what I have come to represent.....

I guess, if you are struggling to make ends meet, and a Prius driving, coach totting, manolo wearing (this is a stereotype, not referring to Miss Clinton - or Lord forbid Miss Huffington) scolds you about not donating enough to Africa, polluting your environment with your 30 y/o old pickup -because you can't afford a new one- or yelling at your son for being an imperialist pig because his only way out of poverty was the army - surprise - you might not be very popular.

I could not find the full scene from "My Fellow Americans" only the latter half, and it loses some of its meaning, but this is still good enough:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uph1gHUBxhE

I think the truth, is finally out. The "high moral ground" looks as dirty and muddy from "down here" as "us pigs" am sure look from "up there". Enjoy the view, and thank you for the mudslinging, now I don't have to pay for a spa day.

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RE: The real face of the Democrats - 6/1/2017 10:21:55 PM   
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RE: The real face of the Democrats - 6/1/2017 10:25:48 PM   
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Status: offline 		The election of Trump has shown us that liberals are childish, petty fools who have no respect for the rights of others.

It is time for the real core of this country to start obeying the Golden Rule. Do unto them.

Every conservative speaker should have a security team which will be able to get away with dragging these brats out of our conservative meetings by their feet. Hopefully down a flight of stairs. Knock some sense into them.

They are starting to play rough but forgot one thing - some people fight fire with gasoline.

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RE: The real face of the Democrats - 6/1/2017 11:01:57 PM   
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Status: offline 		"Every conservative speaker should have a security team which will be able to get away with dragging these brats out of our conservative meetings by their feet. Hopefully down a flight of stairs. Knock some sense into them."

No, they shouldn't, and your post alarms me. You are saying that speajers of a certain ideology should be allowed to have people physically beaten up for exercising their Constitutionally guarantted rights to free speech and peaceful assembly.

This is part of what makes Trump and his followers so dangerous. Disrespect for laws and the Constitution. Within a few short months, this administration has tried to or accomplished the following:

Tried to cover up illegal meetings with an unfriendly foreign power.
Violated the emoluments clause.
Tried to bar members of a specific religion from entering the country.
Made unproven claims that Obama committed a crime in wiretapping Trump illegally.

He's also lied about crowd size, railed against a Hispanic judge for his ethnicity, fired Sally Yates for choosing the Constitution over him, fired Comey for doing his job, etc.

Trump is NOT a conservative. He does not have a consistent world view. His operating philosophy is to destroy opposition.

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RE: The real face of the Democrats - 6/1/2017 11:56:56 PM   
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Tried to cover up illegal meetings with an unfriendly foreign power.


No such thing as an illegal meeeting.

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Violated the emoluments clause.


Been debunked.

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Tried to bar members of a specific religion from entering the country.


Which will be upheld when it finally gets to the supreme court. It is his prerogative in that office according to the Constitution.

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Made unproven claims that Obama committed a crime in wiretapping Trump illegally.


Under Obama they wiretapped everybody. he promised to put a stop to it and didn't lift one finger, except to sign an even worse bill.

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Trump is NOT a conservative.


That is true.

That is why the DNC should not have handed him the Presidency on a silver platter. You obviously know I am not too crazy about Israel and their staunch supporters, but I would have voted for Sanders. He really would not have gotten much done in his socialist agenda but there would probably be less damage.

The DNC fucked up by sidelining him. The RNC fucked up by sidelining Paul. These parties have to learn that the voters make the decisions, not the political parties. They keep this shit up it will blow up in their face again.

Some idiot over on Fet claimed that a handful of faithless electors put Trump in office. I think he is in Australia which is surprising, because I thought they taught real math there, not liberal math. Trump had 308 EC votes, which means 38 electors would have had to go against their Clinton constituency. The fact is (I think) that eight did, but they did not cast their vote for Trump, some went for Sanders and some went for various others.

His response was that what, 90 million voters stayed home. well maybe they just could not bring themselves to vote or that autistic bitch. i told him that was not a response. Crickets.

This liberal math is not limited to voters either. Ms "Pass it to see what's in it" claimed that if they are voted in in 2018 they would pass a $15 minimum wage bill within the first 100 days. That stupid bitch doesn't know math. First of all if they get a simple majority, which is highly unlikely because most of the seats up for grabs are democrat, the President still has to sign it. They simply cannot get a vetoproof congress in 2018. If that is republican math then republican math IS math.

And liberal voters, blocking highways ? I can only wish that an ambulance was on their way to save one of their loved ones at the time. Disrupting public speakers because they don't like their views, THAT'S why the security is needed.

And what's more, not every liberal is an ultrasickening cry in dweller with the crayons. Some of them are mature and no doubt those people will not vote democrat because they are now ashamed of the party. And for good reason.

That fact is that all the democrats do is lie better. They are just as racist and elitist and whatever else as anyone, they just hide it better. Now we have Trump who will say anything anytime.

Even if he is an asshole (no doubt) it is a breath of fresh air.

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RE: The real face of the Democrats - 6/2/2017 12:06:23 AM   
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ORIGINAL: Termyn8or
Now we have Trump who will say anything anytime.

Even if he is an asshole (no doubt) it is a breath of fresh air.


I think this is the gist of why Trump appeals to me.
I feel like he is so transparent and there is no filter between his brain and his mouth.

Technically worst trait for a politician to have. Politicians need to look like clean perfect princesses while hiding the real evils behind.

I feel so much better with someone, who is incapable of being devious.

And that he re-defined who could be President. Seriously, he made the impossible possible by becoming President.

I know people joke alot about next Presidentialship may be The Rock versus Oprah.

But from someone with no political background point of view. That is amazing to be able to go into politics and kick the ass of people who are years in politics and thought they got the game smack down, until America give them a shock by choosing a non-political background person.

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RE: The real face of the Democrats - 6/2/2017 2:41:54 AM   
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Status: offline 		So I am sure you were absolutely appalled by all the images of President Obama being hung or burned in effigy.

Thank goodness "conservatives" are such class acts.

For the record, I find the image of Trump's head absolutely disgusting, as I did the images put out of Obama. It just amuses me to see so many screaming foul now, after they sat in silence while the Obama's were ridiculed and treated horribly.



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RE: The real face of the Democrats - 6/2/2017 3:41:48 AM   
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ORIGINAL: Termyn8or

The election of Trump has shown us that liberals are childish, petty fools who have no respect for the rights of others.

T^T

I didn't realize that liberals voted for Trump.

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RE: The real face of the Democrats - 6/2/2017 4:53:46 AM   
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So I am sure you were absolutely appalled by all the images of President Obama being hung or burned in effigy.

Thank goodness "conservatives" are such class acts.

For the record, I find the image of Trump's head absolutely disgusting, as I did the images put out of Obama. It just amuses me to see so many screaming foul now, after they sat in silence while the Obama's were ridiculed and treated horribly.



^ This . . .

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RE: The real face of the Democrats - 6/2/2017 4:55:08 AM   
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ORIGINAL: DarkSteven

"Every conservative speaker should have a security team which will be able to get away with dragging these brats out of our conservative meetings by their feet. Hopefully down a flight of stairs. Knock some sense into them."

No, they shouldn't, and your post alarms me. You are saying that speajers of a certain ideology should be allowed to have people physically beaten up for exercising their Constitutionally guarantted rights to free speech and peaceful assembly.

This is part of what makes Trump and his followers so dangerous. Disrespect for laws and the Constitution. Within a few short months, this administration has tried to or accomplished the following:

Tried to cover up illegal meetings with an unfriendly foreign power.
Violated the emoluments clause.
Tried to bar members of a specific religion from entering the country.
Made unproven claims that Obama committed a crime in wiretapping Trump illegally.

He's also lied about crowd size, railed against a Hispanic judge for his ethnicity, fired Sally Yates for choosing the Constitution over him, fired Comey for doing his job, etc.

Trump is NOT a conservative. He does not have a consistent world view. His operating philosophy is to destroy opposition.

^ and this.

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RE: The real face of the Democrats - 6/2/2017 5:13:26 AM   
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ORIGINAL: JstAnotherSub

So I am sure you were absolutely appalled by all the images of President Obama being hung or burned in effigy.

Thank goodness "conservatives" are such class acts.

For the record, I find the image of Trump's head absolutely disgusting, as I did the images put out of Obama. It just amuses me to see so many screaming foul now, after they sat in silence while the Obama's were ridiculed and treated horribly.



what you said...
there is a memory block there. That or plain ol denial.



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RE: The real face of the Democrats - 6/2/2017 5:14:31 AM   
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ORIGINAL: DarkSteven

"Every conservative speaker should have a security team which will be able to get away with dragging these brats out of our conservative meetings by their feet. Hopefully down a flight of stairs. Knock some sense into them."

No, they shouldn't, and your post alarms me. You are saying that speajers of a certain ideology should be allowed to have people physically beaten up for exercising their Constitutionally guarantted rights to free speech and peaceful assembly.

This is part of what makes Trump and his followers so dangerous. Disrespect for laws and the Constitution. Within a few short months, this administration has tried to or accomplished the following:

Tried to cover up illegal meetings with an unfriendly foreign power.
Violated the emoluments clause.
Tried to bar members of a specific religion from entering the country.
Made unproven claims that Obama committed a crime in wiretapping Trump illegally.

He's also lied about crowd size, railed against a Hispanic judge for his ethnicity, fired Sally Yates for choosing the Constitution over him, fired Comey for doing his job, etc.

Trump is NOT a conservative. He does not have a consistent world view. His operating philosophy is to destroy opposition.

I Love it when you add your wisdom :) Nice post Sir:)

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RE: The real face of the Democrats - 6/2/2017 5:16:52 AM   
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I am a Republican. A middle of the road Republican. Might be the last middle of the road ANYTHING left in this country. I believe in facts and in history. I don't like hype. I believe in traditions.

I think this is probably the last straw, the last shot across the bow, from the Democratic party. I am puzzled how people who claim to respect Democracy, who claim to value the process, who claim to believe in Freedom and in our country, can be so incredibly PETTY and SMALL minded. Miss Griffin's photo was literally the last straw.

You start by noting you're not the kind of Republican doing the offensive things (what others are deriding as a RINO), and then go on to represent Democrats as a cohesive block, citing NOT party officials but the comments and actions of entertainers.

That's your case, such as it is. Or rather, isn't.

I'm pretty pissed at Democrats, but for reasons rooted in reality, not fantasies I've decided to believe.

I'm pissed at the GOP leadership similarly -- not because Ted Nugent is insane, but because Paul Ryan, Mitch McConnell, Donald Trump and his Cabinet, and the GOP Congress enabling them are doing and saying ridiculous, destructive, and even dangerous things.

Find reality. Then you can explain how you're a moderate Republican.

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RE: The real face of the Democrats - 6/2/2017 6:21:11 AM   
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ORIGINAL: JstAnotherSub

So I am sure you were absolutely appalled by all the images of President Obama being hung or burned in effigy.

Thank goodness "conservatives" are such class acts.

For the record, I find the image of Trump's head absolutely disgusting, as I did the images put out of Obama. It just amuses me to see so many screaming foul now, after they sat in silence while the Obama's were ridiculed and treated horribly.




Griffin is the face of the Democrat party. The very face, we see it right here. Chants of "resist" and the associated riots and assaults are an effort to overturn the election and intimidate political dissent. Mobs are going to politician's offices, their hometown speeches, their homes TO INTIMIDATE THEM PHYSICALLY.

Obama "being hung or burned in effigy" etc was the fringe of the fringe, even some leftists violently opposed him

Much of the opposition to Obama was legitimate and was over political differences, as he was a Marxist gun grabber. You didn't see his speech venues mobbed and attendees beaten, other leftist speakers firebombed, etc though - like we see now. Make-believe scandal after scandal invented in the leftist newspapers. Kellyanne on a couch with black men standing around in the White House, two scoops of ice cream

"Omg omg omg, someone may have had a meeting once" blah blah blah stupidity. There is nothing illegal about meetings. There is nothing illegal about having discussions with foreign governments, every other president's cabinet did these things all of the time - it is part of the job.

This is all about overturning the election, and Kathy Griffin is the face of "the resistance"

The alt left's term for what they are doing. Which is a term for a bloody violent revolution



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RE: The real face of the Democrats - 6/2/2017 7:20:55 AM   
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RE: The real face of the Democrats - 6/2/2017 7:25:03 AM   
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His operating philosophy is to destroy opposition.


You are projecting here.

Madonna: "Blow up the White House"

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RE: The real face of the Democrats - 6/2/2017 7:26:25 AM   
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RE: The real face of the Democrats - 6/2/2017 7:26:29 AM   
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Putin is the face of the nutsuckers, and the only face you see, the rest are felchgobbling Putinjizz from Il Douchovitches ass.


Hah, gramps... "Slobblegobble felchgobble"



I wonder what he thinks he is saying


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RE: The real face of the Democrats - 6/2/2017 7:27:26 AM   
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RE: The real face of the Democrats - 6/2/2017 7:43:11 AM   
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When Griffin and Madonna announce their candidacy, you can call them representative of Democrats.

Until then, you don't know the difference between politics and entertainment.

I suppose Ted Nugent is the typical Republican?



Because you know, a better case could be made: GOP politicians seek him out to campaign for them.


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