MrRodgers
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Let me make this perfectly clear.
If I was in charge I would not agree to do anything or not to do anything. We are going to pollute, and we are going to do it until every USian is working and can afford a cars and clothes and all that shit. You people have had free rein on our markets for a long time and have profited greatly at our expense. Now comes payback time. It has been open season on the US consumer for too long.
And your numbers are irrelevant. You quote a figure on Chinese per captia CO2 emissions, well yeah they are lower. Know why ? While I have tried to educate people a little about China in that they got AC in their cars, the got highways and cities and all that and even with the bowl of rice a day they make they can pay their car insurace and all that, there is still a contingent of population which is pretty much in the dark ages.
Maybe you people think that the Chinese worker busts ass 29 hours a day and goes home on a one pedal bike with a flat tire but in the cities that is not how it is. It is just like here in many ways. Like we have a contingent of those who live in the hills and whatever, they got more. The last CO2 they emitted was last Thursday when they cooked the squirrel (or cat) they skewered out in the field. That and their donkey or cow farts.
China has X amount of manufacturing and trade centers, placed for easy access to trade routes, dat means ocean folks. Also, they are placed where it is easier to get to natural resources and other things, like being near an electric power plant. Sewage and so forth. Roads. They'll build a road for you, even let you name it as long as you provide jobs.
And China did not give a shit about the environment until people literally got sick. Like us, they are in it for the money. You weigh the costs, healthcare over scrubbing the air a bit, the scales tipped on them not long ago and they became more concerned about the environment. This is when the workers started getting sick. It is, in the end, all about money.
This is the kind of greedy scumbags that Trump can deal with. All they give a shit about is their money, their olady and kids and maybe their cars. And Trump alienating half the world, that is good.
As you know a fw states have made pot legal. Know why the feds can't make it legal ? Because of a treaty. In my opinion, and I believe this shared by the founders of this country, I believe that no treaty should have any effect on our domestic laws. To me that is an act of treason, of giving up part of our hard earned sovereignty. With Brexit, the Brits are learning this lesson.
Years ago a treaty was introduced for consideration dealing with weapons, guns. It was only supposed to deal with weapons manufactured here and shipped out overseas. But the smart people caught on to it and figured that certain things could be construed to limit our sovereignty and the full weight of the NRA and JPFO and whatever else went whole hog against it. Bottom line, if it can be made here anyone can stick it in a UPS box and send it anywhere they damnwell please.
This is like the federal regulations about growing wheat. See, in law, jurisdiction is not determined by lines on a map. The feds have little jurisdiction really unless state lines are crossed. But in commerce, iff you grow wheat, since there ARE people who grow wheat and it DOES cross state lines and has an effect on the economy, YOU, as a private individual, even just growing wheat for your own personal consumption, come under thousands of pages of regulations under federal code. I know how to fight that shit but you don't, and even if your lawyer does he won't do it because of his oath to the Bar.
Really, was there a treaty involved when the US got involved in WW2 ? Didn't need one, this MF is trying to take over Europe, HEY, my Grampa is there !
But now the US claims jurisdiction over the whole world. That claim is false.
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As you know a fw states have made pot legal. Know why the feds can't make it legal ? Because of a treaty. In my opinion, and I believe this shared by the founders of this country, I believe that no treaty should have any effect on our domestic laws. To me that is an act of treason, of giving up part of our hard earned sovereignty. With Brexit, the Brits are learning this lesson.
Tell me how if a treaty is the law of the land, states can legalize pot, yet the US govt. can't ? I'd really like to know.
This is like the federal regulations about growing wheat. See, in law, jurisdiction is not determined by lines on a map. The feds have little jurisdiction really unless state lines are crossed. But in commerce, iff you grow wheat, since there ARE people who grow wheat and it DOES cross state lines and has an effect on the economy, YOU, as a private individual, even just growing wheat for your own personal consumption, come under thousands of pages of regulations under federal code. I know how to fight that shit but you don't, and even if your lawyer does he won't do it because of his oath to the Bar.
The wheat industry alone has been sucking $40 billion in subsidies in less that 20 years off the federal tit, so if they don't want the regs...stop sucking.
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