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....was on C-Span on (last) Thursday explaining how she's not upset that she lost just that....she "lost (her) opportunity to have a voice in the message".
"My Dad was a small business man ("log cabin"), my Mom was a stay at home Mom ("olden days....better days when one worker could support a family....my family suffered...we didn't have much")
Turns out Mom had a college degree, did quite well for herself...made a name....Dad was a hard worker....they had a FINE home....live in the better parts of town.
YAWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWN.
She grew up a Republican and was a HS volunteer for Goldwater, voted for three Republican congressmen, you effing idiot. Your first time around the block, here?
You are welcome to elucidate for the audience here why Hillary's daddy's money (if not much) pisses you off more than Trump's daddy's money.
Bill was the best republican the democrats ever put into office,balanced the budget(partially by lowering subsidies to welfare and EPA,that and bypassing lots of regulation with nafta,good bye american manufacturing,hello bigger profits),got in a few quick wars and all the while maintaining extra circular activities at the office....He even go impeached,how republican can you get ?!?
Hillary is a Margret Thatcher light.
She latched on to two issue's that alienated her from people my age(30-35)back in the early 00's.
Most older folks won't know what the fuck I'm talking bout,but let me explain.
Imagine yer a youngster (just outta elementary but not still a kid) just starting to form some sort of political consciousness.
Youngster's aint pay'n bill's,youngster's don't care bout most important issues cause they have no clue,their youngsters.
They're just starting to have enough of an attention span to switch on C-Span for a few minutes...maybe...if there's nothing on MTV...
One of the things they do care bout(because they have experience of sorts) is what forms of art they have to enrich their live's in their formative years,and in those early years of the new millennium,that form of art was video game's(a whole era of disposable income and cheap Chinese electronics,aka,the Clinton/Bush era) .Well guess who was on the TV trying to censor video game's,you guessed it,Hillary Clinton.Not an important issue,but one that definitely helped alienate her from nearly a whole generation of folks who saw her as outta touch.
Most of us played violent video games and were bout a violent as those folks in 1400's with those violent stage plays bout bloody gang fights and love triangles.
The other thing that lost her youngster support,her stance on Gay marriage.
Most of us,any generation,have met dykes and queers in our formative years.
Whether or not our society was accepting of it or not ,they were among us the whole gawd damn time,we just pretended they weren't.
By the early 00's most of society was either kool with it,or hopelessly fundamentalist ass hats.
I remember attending a gay marriage myself as a lil kid.
Asked my mah the expected question"but they're both boys mommy",she told me "some boy's like other boy's"
I went "huh"and went back to playing with my lego's because Unlike what some conservatives believe,it's really no big deal till you make it one
Guess who was on the TV, spouting bullshit bout Marriage being as old as time and between only a man and a woman...
Now I know that she never actually stood in the way of gay marriage,but she sure made certain to be seen on TV doing so,and that was enough to alienate her from a bunch of dumb youngsters who were sitt'n down with their folks every night to watch queer eye for the straight guy.
Really,what as the democratic party thinking? When yer left party candidate is less progressive then basic cable,you done fucked up.
I keep hearing demopublicans ranting bout how the republican mud slinging machine was unleashed unfairly at Hillary from the start,and while that might be true,she's done plenty mud wallowing herself.
Oh and the war,almost forgot bout that mess,you know,the thing that started back when I was just coming to "Fight'n Age".
Yeah,the Iraq war isn't exactly popular with alota folks my age(that includes more then a few my age who went over there)
The republican candidate was the one who called the Iraq war the dangerous mistake it was and the dem's thought it'd be a good idea to nominate their one and only candidate who voted for it.
fucking brilliant......
Oh,She was cuddly as fuck with bank's too. Almost forgot bout that.
Just a few years after the housing bubble collapsed,and many youngsters still have fresh memories of family foreclosure in their heads.
All the while, Hillary was like"how do I get younger voter's to vote for me  ."
I could go on and on on how fucking stupid it was to put a nervous dweeb on the ticket as a vp candidate.
Or how stupid it was not to campaign in the rust belt,the place worse hit by the Nafta agreements(and foreclosures).
I'm not even going to touch how bad an Idea it was to push the other side's ticket so far right to look as palatable as possible
(really like how both sides argue bout who released the emails and why,but not what's actually ON the emails.)
Not even gonna mention how dumb it was to spend so much on Hillary,but so little on down ticket races
I'm just going to state the obvious fact that she was a massively horrible pick for a candidate if you wanted to secure the 21-35 demographic,Or the 35-55 blue collar demographic ,Or actual progressives.... Or texas rednecks,but for some reason she still spent alot more time and money to court them then she should have.......
Fucking Hell People,What did you expect to happen?!
Don't get me wrong,I dislike Trump even more then I dislike Hillary,I just can't shake the feeling that Hillary is directly responsible for handing over the white house keys to the louse.
I expect Putin to get involved with our elections,he's an exKGB goon turned international kingpin,I'd be shocked if he wasn't trying to get involved.
I expect the republicans to turn a blind eye to all sorts of lunacy if it allows them to rape and pillage,that's what they are,pirates in suits .
I just didn't expect the democrats to fuck them selves over sooo badly.
It reminds me of the change that happened to the republican party back at the turn of the 1900's.The republican party used to be the progressive voice of the working class till they started taking more and more money from the financial elite's.By the middle of the century,they were calling for the oppression of the very people they were trying to liberate just a little over a half century earlier.
That's what the democrats are doing now,they're bending to the will of wall street in order to gain more power against their republican opposition,and it cost them the whole damn election.
So now,their either gonna wise up and change,or double down and get even dirtier next time,we'll see what cards the party play's next election..
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