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Are Limits stronger than Love - 12/8/2004 5:36:23 AM

icefire

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i would like to hear from Master's...Misstress'.....subs and slaves. Are there places You never dreamed of going but did it for the sake of LOVE?
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RE: Are Limits stronger than Love - 12/8/2004 6:17:42 AM

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Because Brad loves me he would never make me do anything that he knows is beyond my limits. Even if there is something that he would like to explore this is not taken lightly and he takes my thoughts and feelings into consideration. Is this to say that he doesn't push me? No, I am still pushed to my limits, but he has never crossed the line and forced me to do something that I absolutely did not want to do.
Maybe this is a better was of answering. Does he push my soft limits? Yes, he does. Does he puch my hard limits? No, never.

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RE: Are Limits stronger than Love - 12/8/2004 7:33:49 AM

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Here's how I heard it stated this weekend by someone I respect. He finally put into words what I was feeling:

If you are in a true Ms relationship and you are asked to do something you TRULY do not want to do (i.e. it will damage you in some way), you have two choices:

1). you do it anyway. This is your only option if you are to stay in the relationship and stay true to your vow of obedience.

2). you end the relationship. This is the only choice that you always have that is always yours. It is always your choice if you will surrender to another. That's what the consensual in "consensual slavery" means.

Of course, this really doesn't address the issue of love, it addresses the issue of obedience. If a Master loves a slave, it is unlikely he or she will push those true limits you have since they will damage you. On the other hand, if you love your Master, you will want to please and obey, in such case, see the points above. It's a cyclical thing.

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RE: Are Limits stronger than Love - 12/8/2004 8:16:06 AM

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I don't believe that I could stay in love with someone who didn't have the same limits as me. This is because I believe that my limits are things which I am morally opposed to, or physically unable to do.

So, my only limits are things that not only I will not do, but that I (personally) believe should not be done. To that end, if similar to religion/views on children, if mine aren't compatable with my partner, I won't be with that person for long.

So no. :)

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RE: Are Limits stronger than Love - 12/8/2004 1:59:28 PM

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Are there places You never dreamed of going but did it for the sake of LOVE?

I have the opposite problem and i know it has been discussed before, where love gets in the way. Hubby won't do some things that i would like to try because He is afraid of hurting me or humiliating me.

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RE: Are Limits stronger than Love - 12/8/2004 3:33:53 PM

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I really don't have hard nor soft limits. I have limits period. I don't have any fantasies I want to live out..so no reason for any soft limits.
Essentially my limits are things that would hurt my physically or morally objectionable.

If they were pushed. My Dom has lost the caring required to have a relationship with me. I would walk.
So, no I would not do something out of love. It would be harmful to myself.

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RE: Are Limits stronger than Love - 12/8/2004 6:21:01 PM

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There is nor was absolutly nothing
that is or was stronger between My Dominant Master Mates passed and My slaves then Our

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RE: Are Limits stronger than Love - 12/8/2004 8:02:46 PM

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Are there places You never dreamed of going but did it for the sake of LOVE?

Yes, there are places i have gone that i never dreamed of going. i went to those places because i not only love my Master but also because i respected and trusted Him not to take me places i couldn't handle going.

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1). you do it anyway. This is your only option if you are to stay in the relationship and stay true to your vow of obedience.

2). you end the relationship. This is the only choice that you always have that is always yours. It is always your choice if you will surrender to another. That's what the consensual in "consensual slavery" means.

I would have to agree with this. I looked for a Master that had similar likes and dislikes because i know my need to please Him would out weight my needs for limits and in the end if we didn't have like limits i would (a) lose my self respect because i obeyed and went against my limits (b) wonder if i am pleasing Him because he has need/wants that i can't fulfill and knowing my need to please Him that would drive me insane.

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RE: Are Limits stronger than Love - 12/8/2004 8:18:37 PM

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