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RE: The key paragraph in Comey's advance testimony - 6/8/2017 6:12:46 AM   
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The conversation did not involve wrongdoing on the part of the president, who Comey has said repeatedly was never under investigation


He isn't personally under investigation.
But his entire campaign is, and he is the head of his campaign.

And the idea that this is simply a casual discussion between law enforcement officers is absurd. Trump is personally involved in this, and in addition to having no business being president, also has no concept of the law or how it works.

Trump demanded that everyone else leave the room, asked Comey to let Flynn go, demanded loyalty, weeks later REMINDED Comey that he demanded loyalty, and then fired him afterwards.
Trump has zero loyalties to anyone but himself, and it is quite likely that he is trying to protect Flynn in order to cover something up.

If Trump came out and admitted that the dossier was all true, you would still deny it... so stop pretending that you are even capable of honestly participating in this conversation.


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RE: The key paragraph in Comey's advance testimony - 6/8/2017 6:16:32 AM   
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ORIGINAL: BoscoX


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The President then returned to the topic of Mike Flynn, saying, "He is a good guy and has been through a lot." He repeated that Flynn hadn't done anything wrong on his calls with the Russians, but had misled the Vice President. He then said, "I hope you can see your way clear to letting this go, to letting Flynn go. He is a good guy. I hope you can let this go." I replied only that "he is a good guy." (In fact, I had a positive experience dealing with Mike Flynn when he was a colleague as Director of the Defense Intelligence Agency at the beginning of my term at FBI.) I did not say I would "let this go."


That + the firing of Comey = Obstruction of Justice.


Game over.


You don't understand that you are describing the conversation between two law enforcement officers, with one being the other's superior, discussing a case that is before them. Neither are you a lawyer, though you play one (and a bad one) on collarchat

The observation that "Flynn hasn't done anything wrong" flows perfectly with the statement suggesting (not demanding) that the matter be dropped

The conversation did not involve wrongdoing on the part of the president, who Comey has said repeatedly was never under investigation

It is simply two law enforcement officers, two top prosecutors if you will, discussing a case





Wow...

You are now entering the EXTRA-SPIN ZONE!


Caution!

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RE: The key paragraph in Comey's advance testimony - 6/8/2017 6:27:53 AM   
BoscoX


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ORIGINAL: heavyblinker

quote:

ORIGINAL: BoscoX
The conversation did not involve wrongdoing on the part of the president, who Comey has said repeatedly was never under investigation


He isn't personally under investigation.
But his entire campaign is, and he is the head of his campaign.

And the idea that this is simply a casual discussion between law enforcement officers is absurd. Trump is personally involved in this, and in addition to having no business being president, also has no concept of the law or how it works.

Trump demanded that everyone else leave the room, asked Comey to let Flynn go, demanded loyalty, weeks later REMINDED Comey that he demanded loyalty, and then fired him afterwards.
Trump has zero loyalties to anyone but himself, and it is quite likely that he is trying to protect Flynn in order to cover something up.

If Trump came out and admitted that the dossier was all true, you would still deny it... so stop pretending that you are even capable of honestly participating in this conversation.




You have real problems relating with the real world. The "entire campaign"? " no business being president"? Where do you get this stuff. And your delusions don't count. We voted, you lost - and Donald Trump is the president

A lot of what you claim is pure delusion. Madness. Some of it is regurgitated fake news from establishments that are proven propaganda organs, and some is mixed with real events. You think it's criminal, for the president to have a private conversation. Or for his representatives to meet with representatives of foreign governments - when that is an intrinsic part of what presidents do

Prosecutors and LEOs are often associated with those who they deal with in their professional lives, your delusions that it's automatically criminal are funny descriptions of your almost cartoonish make-believe world

Your one redeeming value is that like practically every other leftist on here you are a fucking hilarious, clownish, raving lunatic and when viewed in the right light you are highly entertaining

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RE: The key paragraph in Comey's advance testimony - 6/8/2017 6:28:10 AM   
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ORIGINAL: BoscoX


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ORIGINAL: MasterJaguar01

The President then returned to the topic of Mike Flynn, saying, "He is a good guy and has been through a lot." He repeated that Flynn hadn't done anything wrong on his calls with the Russians, but had misled the Vice President. He then said, "I hope you can see your way clear to letting this go, to letting Flynn go. He is a good guy. I hope you can let this go." I replied only that "he is a good guy." (In fact, I had a positive experience dealing with Mike Flynn when he was a colleague as Director of the Defense Intelligence Agency at the beginning of my term at FBI.) I did not say I would "let this go."


That + the firing of Comey = Obstruction of Justice.


Game over.


You don't understand that you are describing the conversation between two law enforcement officers, with one being the other's superior, discussing a case that is before them. Neither are you a lawyer, though you play one (and a bad one) on collarchat

The observation that "Flynn hasn't done anything wrong" flows perfectly with the statement suggesting (not demanding) that the matter be dropped

The conversation did not involve wrongdoing on the part of the president, who Comey has said repeatedly was never under investigation

It is simply two law enforcement officers, two top prosecutors if you will, discussing a case



By your logic, Nixon and Clinton were BOTH innocent.
It is not 2 Law Enforcement officers. It is a law enforcement officer and a CIVILIAN who has authority over him.

Your clueless just hit a new high Comrade.

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RE: The key paragraph in Comey's advance testimony - 6/8/2017 6:30:13 AM   
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ORIGINAL: MasterJaguar01


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ORIGINAL: BoscoX


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ORIGINAL: MasterJaguar01

The President then returned to the topic of Mike Flynn, saying, "He is a good guy and has been through a lot." He repeated that Flynn hadn't done anything wrong on his calls with the Russians, but had misled the Vice President. He then said, "I hope you can see your way clear to letting this go, to letting Flynn go. He is a good guy. I hope you can let this go." I replied only that "he is a good guy." (In fact, I had a positive experience dealing with Mike Flynn when he was a colleague as Director of the Defense Intelligence Agency at the beginning of my term at FBI.) I did not say I would "let this go."


That + the firing of Comey = Obstruction of Justice.


Game over.


You don't understand that you are describing the conversation between two law enforcement officers, with one being the other's superior, discussing a case that is before them. Neither are you a lawyer, though you play one (and a bad one) on collarchat

The observation that "Flynn hasn't done anything wrong" flows perfectly with the statement suggesting (not demanding) that the matter be dropped

The conversation did not involve wrongdoing on the part of the president, who Comey has said repeatedly was never under investigation

It is simply two law enforcement officers, two top prosecutors if you will, discussing a case





Wow...

You are now entering the EXTRA-SPIN ZONE!


Caution!



You're also a clown who isn't aware that Donald Trump was elected president? That being president is his full time job now?

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RE: The key paragraph in Comey's advance testimony - 6/8/2017 6:32:03 AM   
BoscoX


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By your logic, Nixon and Clinton were BOTH innocent.
It is not 2 Law Enforcement officers. It is a law enforcement officer and a CIVILIAN who has authority over him.

Your clueless just hit a new high Comrade.


What do you think presidents do then, idiot...

"Nixon"

Ooh, scary...

(Call him Hitler next for extra propaganda points)

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RE: The key paragraph in Comey's advance testimony - 6/8/2017 6:32:18 AM   
heavyblinker


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quote:

ORIGINAL: BoscoX

quote:

ORIGINAL: heavyblinker

quote:

ORIGINAL: BoscoX
The conversation did not involve wrongdoing on the part of the president, who Comey has said repeatedly was never under investigation


He isn't personally under investigation.
But his entire campaign is, and he is the head of his campaign.

And the idea that this is simply a casual discussion between law enforcement officers is absurd. Trump is personally involved in this, and in addition to having no business being president, also has no concept of the law or how it works.

Trump demanded that everyone else leave the room, asked Comey to let Flynn go, demanded loyalty, weeks later REMINDED Comey that he demanded loyalty, and then fired him afterwards.
Trump has zero loyalties to anyone but himself, and it is quite likely that he is trying to protect Flynn in order to cover something up.

If Trump came out and admitted that the dossier was all true, you would still deny it... so stop pretending that you are even capable of honestly participating in this conversation.




You have real problems relating with the real world. The "entire campaign"? " no business being president"? Where do you get this stuff. And your delusions don't count. We voted, you lost - and Donald Trump is the president

A lot of what you claim is pure delusion. Madness. Some of it is regurgitated fake news from establishments that are proven propaganda organs, and some is mixed with real events. You think it's criminal, for the president to have a private conversation. Or for his representatives to meet with representatives of foreign governments - when that is an intrinsic part of what presidents do

Prosecutors and LEOs are often associated with those who they deal with in their professional lives, your delusions that it's automatically criminal are funny descriptions of your almost cartoonish make-believe world

Your one redeeming value is that like practically every other leftist on here you are a fucking hilarious, clownish, raving lunatic and when viewed in the right light you are highly entertaining


His campaign isn't being investigated?
He isn't the head of his campaign?
What planet are you living on?

It isn't just a conversation-- FFS the CONTENT of the conversation is what's important.
What kind of mental disease do you have that prevents you from understanding this?

Just because he is the president doesn't mean he can do the job.
He can't.

The only people who aren't deeply embarrassed by him are fucking morons like you.

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RE: The key paragraph in Comey's advance testimony - 6/8/2017 6:34:41 AM   
BoscoX


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You wrote, "his entire campaign" moron

Again, Comey said three times that President Donald Trump is not under investigation

If the president chooses to recuse himself from a matter he may do so, but you idiots insisting that it is automatically criminal if he doesn't is a sign of your group insanity

(President Trump's approval ratings are higher than rapist Bill Clinton's at this point in their presidencies, too)

(You are insane)


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RE: The key paragraph in Comey's advance testimony - 6/8/2017 6:36:53 AM   
heavyblinker


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You wrote, "his entire campaign" moron

Again, Comey said three times that President Donald Trump is not under investigation

If the president chooses to recuse himself from a matter he may do so, but you idiots insisting that it is automatically criminal if he doesn't is a sign of your group insanity


He isn't PERSONALLY under investigation.
PERSONALLY.

There isn't currently an investigation into Trump HIMSELF.
But there is an investigation into his CAMPAIGN.

TRUMP IS PART OF HIS OWN CAMPAIGN.
How many times do I have to say this?

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RE: The key paragraph in Comey's advance testimony - 6/8/2017 6:38:37 AM   
BoscoX


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ORIGINAL: heavyblinker


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ORIGINAL: BoscoX

You wrote, "his entire campaign" moron

Again, Comey said three times that President Donald Trump is not under investigation

If the president chooses to recuse himself from a matter he may do so, but you idiots insisting that it is automatically criminal if he doesn't is a sign of your group insanity


He isn't PERSONALLY under investigation.
PERSONALLY.

There isn't currently an investigation into Trump HIMSELF.
But there is an investigation into his CAMPAIGN.

TRUMP IS PART OF HIS OWN CAMPAIGN.
How many times do I have to say this?


Scream it, idiot

Scream it, break you computer screen

Your insanity is hilarious to me

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RE: The key paragraph in Comey's advance testimony - 6/8/2017 6:42:14 AM   
heavyblinker


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ORIGINAL: BoscoX


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ORIGINAL: heavyblinker


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ORIGINAL: BoscoX

You wrote, "his entire campaign" moron

Again, Comey said three times that President Donald Trump is not under investigation

If the president chooses to recuse himself from a matter he may do so, but you idiots insisting that it is automatically criminal if he doesn't is a sign of your group insanity


He isn't PERSONALLY under investigation.
PERSONALLY.

There isn't currently an investigation into Trump HIMSELF.
But there is an investigation into his CAMPAIGN.

TRUMP IS PART OF HIS OWN CAMPAIGN.
How many times do I have to say this?


Scream it, idiot

Scream it, break you computer screen

Your insanity is hilarious to me


That's funny because your stupidity is extremely frustrating to me.

Comey's own words:

https://www.nytimes.com/2017/03/20/us/politics/fbi-investigation-trump-russia-comey.html

quote:

Mr. Comey said the F.B.I. was “investigating the nature of any links between individuals associated with the Trump campaign and the Russian government, and whether there was any coordination between the campaign and Russia’s efforts.”


So Trump isn't an individual associated with the Trump campaign?
Moron.

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RE: The key paragraph in Comey's advance testimony - 6/8/2017 6:48:54 AM   
BoscoX


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ORIGINAL: heavyblinker

Comey's own words:

https://www.nytimes.com/2017/03/20/us/politics/fbi-investigation-trump-russia-comey.html

quote:

Mr. Comey said the F.B.I. was “investigating the nature of any links between individuals associated with the Trump campaign and the Russian government, and whether there was any coordination between the campaign and Russia’s efforts.”


So Trump isn't an individual associated with the Trump campaign?
Moron.


Your brain damage makes you see that as, the whole campaign was under investigation, Trump isn't president, it is criminal for him to do the job he was elected to do, someone among hundreds of people in the campaign may be under investigation therefore Trump is a criminal etc

Too funny

The things Flynn is alleged to have done are technicalities at worst btw

In your madness you really believe he was a three eyed space alien eating little babies or something


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RE: The key paragraph in Comey's advance testimony - 6/8/2017 6:55:20 AM   
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Just a reminder, the president has the authority to direct the FBI on who to prosecute and who not to. Hell Trump has the authority to end the whole thing by saint he'll just pardon Flynn.

There's no obstruction there.

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RE: The key paragraph in Comey's advance testimony - 6/8/2017 6:57:27 AM   
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No one has said there is evidence of collaboration. No one.

There isn't even real proof that Russia did anything, or that if they did that it was specifically to help Trump win

Or that Trump won because of "the Russians"

It's all mass hysteria, and the Democrat leadership is even concerned about how crazy you useful idiots have become about all of this whipped up "Trump!!! Russia!!!" propaganda


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RE: The key paragraph in Comey's advance testimony - 6/8/2017 6:59:32 AM   
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Just a reminder, the president has the authority to direct the FBI on who to prosecute and who not to. Hell Trump has the authority to end the whole thing by saint he'll just pardon Flynn.

There's no obstruction there.


They really argue that the President is not the authority over the FBI... And claim that I am clueless, when I inform them that he is indeed over the FBI and has authority over them

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RE: The key paragraph in Comey's advance testimony - 6/8/2017 7:05:28 AM   
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Maybe wait and see what Comey actually says before everyone argues over it.

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RE: The key paragraph in Comey's advance testimony - 6/8/2017 7:12:25 AM   
heavyblinker


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ORIGINAL: BoscoX

quote:

ORIGINAL: Raiikun

Just a reminder, the president has the authority to direct the FBI on who to prosecute and who not to. Hell Trump has the authority to end the whole thing by saint he'll just pardon Flynn.

There's no obstruction there.


They really argue that the President is not the authority over the FBI... And claim that I am clueless, when I inform them that he is indeed over the FBI and has authority over them


You post this in your signature:

quote:

The left lost interest in Democracy or what voters think or even just honest debate a long time ago, and they no longer bother with trying to hide that fact.


...and then you imply that it would be totally okay for Trump to end the investigation into his own campaign?
Just admit you're a fascist.

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RE: The key paragraph in Comey's advance testimony - 6/8/2017 7:17:37 AM   
heavyblinker


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ORIGINAL: BoscoX

quote:

ORIGINAL: heavyblinker

Comey's own words:

https://www.nytimes.com/2017/03/20/us/politics/fbi-investigation-trump-russia-comey.html

quote:

Mr. Comey said the F.B.I. was “investigating the nature of any links between individuals associated with the Trump campaign and the Russian government, and whether there was any coordination between the campaign and Russia’s efforts.”


So Trump isn't an individual associated with the Trump campaign?
Moron.


Your brain damage makes you see that as, the whole campaign was under investigation, Trump isn't president, it is criminal for him to do the job he was elected to do, someone among hundreds of people in the campaign may be under investigation therefore Trump is a criminal etc

Too funny

The things Flynn is alleged to have done are technicalities at worst btw

In your madness you really believe he was a three eyed space alien eating little babies or something



The campaign IS under investigation.
Trump is not PERSONALLY under investigation.

You seem to think that this means Trump is off the hook-- it doesn't.

You're making up stupid shit that I didn't say and pretending I said it-- WHERE did I say anything about Trump not being president?
He's a shitty president, but he is the president.
He is doing such a terrible job of it he should be fired for that alone, but unfortunately it doesn't work that way-- idiots like you get to make that call.

But this investigation isn't about launching missiles or shitting all over our allies because they hurt his feelings, in case you haven't noticed.

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RE: The key paragraph in Comey's advance testimony - 6/8/2017 7:58:12 AM   
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The President then returned to the topic of Mike Flynn, saying, "He is a good guy and has been through a lot." He repeated that Flynn hadn't done anything wrong on his calls with the Russians, but had misled the Vice President. He then said, "I hope you can see your way clear to letting this go, to letting Flynn go. He is a good guy. I hope you can let this go." I replied only that "he is a good guy." (In fact, I had a positive experience dealing with Mike Flynn when he was a colleague as Director of the Defense Intelligence Agency at the beginning of my term at FBI.) I did not say I would "let this go."


That + the firing of Comey = Obstruction of Justice.


Game over.

Nope, and it's pretty silly to say it's Obstruction of Justice. I hope some day you can find a way to take your head out of your ass. (Which also isn't obstruction of you in any way.)

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RE: The key paragraph in Comey's advance testimony - 6/8/2017 8:02:41 AM   
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one does not need to meet the legal definition of obstruction of justice.

the political one will do.



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