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Putin claims Obama also is skeptical about the evidence - 6/8/2017 9:44:32 PM

Greta75

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He basically said he has not seen the direct evidence, no evidence been presented to him. And he has spoken to Obama at that time about it. And Obama also was not convinced with the evidence he saw. So....., hmm...., I wish someone would ask Obama about this....

This is about Russian Hacking the Elections.

Other interesting things Putin brought up:

"Our Police Force do not use Baton, tear gas or other extreme measures in instilling order, something we often see in other countries including the United States.

"The movement occupy wall street. Where is it now? The US Government has taken it apart."

Thank gawd this link has subtitles.

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RE: Putin claims Obama also is skeptical about the evid... - 6/8/2017 10:18:35 PM

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So we will take the word of a man who is very intelligent and dedicated.
He has been dedicated for his entire adult tile.........to destroying NATO and especially the USA.

Yeah, I'll take Comrade Putin's word.

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RE: Putin claims Obama also is skeptical about the evid... - 6/9/2017 5:00:51 AM

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Generally when somebody is accused of crooked dealings with somebody else, Greta, them saying "No, we never did anything that isn't above board and kosher" isn't considered enough to dismiss the allegations by itself.

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RE: Putin claims Obama also is skeptical about the evid... - 6/9/2017 5:13:17 AM

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quote:

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So we will take the word of a man who is very intelligent and dedicated.
He has been dedicated for his entire adult tile.........to destroying NATO and especially the USA.

Yeah, I'll take Comrade Putin's word.

Another ad hominem fallacy

All your type is capable of in any given "debate"

Your green-eyed monster, as he devours all of humanity:

Really, all the left has any more is hate. In any argument or discussion.

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RE: Putin claims Obama also is skeptical about the evid... - 6/9/2017 5:19:13 AM

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quote:

ORIGINAL: BoscoX

quote:

ORIGINAL: Hillwilliam

So we will take the word of a man who is very intelligent and dedicated.
He has been dedicated for his entire adult tile.........to destroying NATO and especially the USA.

Yeah, I'll take Comrade Putin's word.

Another ad hominem fallacy

All your type is capable of in any given "debate"

Your green-eyed monster, as he devours all of humanity:

Really, all the left has any more is hate. In any argument or discussion.

Another post that puts a bunch of BS on the screen and totally avoids the question and facts pertaining to it.

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RE: Putin claims Obama also is skeptical about the evid... - 6/9/2017 5:26:01 AM

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Comey says Russian hackers targeted “hundreds” of election-related entities, and the real number “could be more than 1,000”

There was “a massive effort to target government and non-governmental—near governmental—agencies like non-profits,” said Comey, the former director of the Federal Bureau of Investigation.
“What would be the estimate of how many entities out there the Russians specifically targeted in that time frame?” Burr asked.

The FBI had been aware of “Russian-connected cyber intrusion” since the “late summer of 2015,” Comey said. That’s around the time of the first Republican primary debate that year, which was on Aug.7

“There should be no fuzz on this whatsoever,” he said. “The Russians interfered in our election during the 2016 cycle. They did with purpose. They did it with sophistication. They did it with overwhelming technical efforts. It was an active measures campaign driven from the top of that government.”

he also informed Obama

Putin: Patriotic Russians may be involved in hackingfair laughed at that myself 1st june 2017

You clearly did not watch it, nor the highlights, or aware of the actual news greta75

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RE: Putin claims Obama also is skeptical about the evid... - 6/9/2017 5:34:18 AM

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NSA Leaks Contradict What Obama Promised The Public About Russia’s Election Meddling

Leaked NSA documents revealing that Russia engaged in election-related hacking efforts just days before the election directly contradict what former President Barack Obama told the American public.

Speaking at a year-end news conference in December, Obama told the public that Russian interference in the election ceased after he told Russian President Vladimir Putin to “cut it out” in early September. Russia’s cyberattacks stopped after warnings of “serious consequences” if they continued, Obama said.

“What I was concerned about in particular was making sure [the DNC hack] wasn’t compounded by potential hacking that could hamper vote counting, affect the actual election process itself,” Obama said. “So in early September when I saw President Putin in China, I felt that the most effective way to ensure that that didn’t happen was to talk to him directly and tell him to cut it out and there were going to be serious consequences if he didn’t. And in fact we did not see further tampering of the election process.”

“But the leaks through WikiLeaks had already occurred,” Obama said, indicating that any further election interference was the result of emails released by WikiLeaks in the days and weeks leading up to the election.

“The president made it sound like that worked,” The New York Times reported at the time, noting Obama’s claim that “we did not see further tampering of the election process.”

But NSA documents published by The Intercept on Monday revealed that as late as October 31 or November 1, hackers launched an election-related spearfishing operation “targeting U.S. local government organizations.”

In other words, Russia was still tampering with the American electoral process after Obama said they ceased doing so. The documents’ authenticity has been confirmed by U.S. officials, and the U.S. Department of Justice charged on Monday the woman who leaked the Top Secret documents to The Intercept.

“The NSA assessed that this phase of the spear-fishing operation was likely launched on either October 31 or November 1 and sent spear-fishing emails to 122 email addresses ‘associated with named local government organizations,’ probably to officials ‘involved in the management of voter registration systems,'” The Intercept reported.

The leaked documents reveal that two other election-related hacking efforts were launched in October — one month after Putin supposedly “cut it out.”

The success of the hacking operations is unclear, but their existence appears to directly contradict Obama’s claim that his warning to Putin resulted in no further election-related meddling. Furthermore, the leaks indicate that Russia went after the exact target — voting processes — that Obama supposedly stopped them from targeting.

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RE: Putin claims Obama also is skeptical about the evid... - 6/9/2017 5:48:15 AM

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You know dont you - you always revert to the big mad typing when you get desperate and start smearing shit all over the screen.

And even an idiot knows the "DNC hack" influenced on how your public voted on "crooked Hilary someone"

If you are asking me how much Obama knew I really couldnt tell you boscox - but if you are telling me "he knew" of only the DNC attack then I would have to agree with you he lied - see we can agree ;) So just for you today I will be referring to him as Obama not handsome Obama.

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RE: Putin claims Obama also is skeptical about the evid... - 6/9/2017 5:50:58 AM

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Bottom line, Trump is an idiot.

This could have been handled in a way that reassured voters and make it toxic to criticize.

Instead, even if he were lily-white, he's done everything imaginable to stir up suspicion and distrust.

Investigate, find for or against, and let's move on.

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RE: Putin claims Obama also is skeptical about the evid... - 6/9/2017 5:54:41 AM

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quote:

ORIGINAL: WickedsDesire

You know dont you - you always revert to the big mad typing when you get desperate and start smearing shit all over the screen.

And even an idiot knows the "DNC hack" influenced on how your public voted on "crooked Hilary someone"

If you are asking me how much Obama knew I really couldnt tell you boscox - but if you are telling me "he knew" of only the DNC attack then I would have to agree with you he lied - see we can agree ;) So just for you today I will be referring to him as Obama not handsome Obama.

Funny how, before the election, "elections cannot be hacked"

After the elections, why - "There is no doubt but that the Russians hacked our election"

There are hackers everywhere, all of the time. Our government hacks other governments, etc. Wasn't a concern though, until leftists needed an excuse for losing and became determined to overthrow our democracy

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RE: Putin claims Obama also is skeptical about the evid... - 6/9/2017 5:58:04 AM

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quote:

ORIGINAL: Musicmystery

Bottom line, Trump is an idiot.

This could have been handled in a way that reassured voters and make it toxic to criticize.

Instead, even if he were lily-white, he's done everything imaginable to stir up suspicion and distrust.

Investigate, find for or against, and let's move on.

More fallacies

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RE: Putin claims Obama also is skeptical about the evid... - 6/9/2017 6:01:22 AM

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I guess you're right. I'll remove the fallacies:

Trump isn't one who could have handled it, there's too much damage to spin control anymore, and this is never going away--he's stuck with an on-going stain.

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RE: Putin claims Obama also is skeptical about the evid... - 6/9/2017 6:26:22 AM

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quote:

ORIGINAL: WickedsDesire
Putin: Patriotic Russians may be involved in hackingfair laughed at that myself 1st june 2017

IF hackers from Russia on thier own accord, nothing to do with Putin, chooses to mess around and hack. That's not Putin problem right?

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RE: Putin claims Obama also is skeptical about the evid... - 6/9/2017 9:26:32 AM

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ORIGINAL: Greta75

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Putin: Patriotic Russians may be involved in hackingfair laughed at that myself 1st june 2017

IF hackers from Russia on thier own accord, nothing to do with Putin, chooses to mess around and hack. That's not Putin problem right?

Of course Russian hackers aren't Putin's problem.
It's like the way the Contras were nothing to do with Reagan.

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RE: Putin claims Obama also is skeptical about the evid... - 6/9/2017 9:45:14 AM

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Technically correct.
But nothing of that magnitude would happen without his blessing.

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RE: Putin claims Obama also is skeptical about the evid... - 6/9/2017 9:48:10 AM

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All elections can be hacked my fragile little petal now if Obama really said that he was lying, which is different from ignorance ;) so I am not fact checking you on that one either...I did notice the date in that statement too ;)

Fake news is a more powerful tool

The UK election occurred last night and every ballot hand counted...that is not the case in America so ours are almost impossible to "hack" in your sense,

There are may definitions of "hacked"..Influenced for instance.

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RE: Putin claims Obama also is skeptical about the evid... - 6/9/2017 5:39:22 PM

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quote:

ORIGINAL: Greta75

He basically said he has not seen the direct evidence, no evidence been presented to him. And he has spoken to Obama at that time about it. And Obama also was not convinced with the evidence he saw. So....., hmm...., I wish someone would ask Obama about this....

This is about Russian Hacking the Elections.

Other interesting things Putin brought up:

"Our Police Force do not use Baton, tear gas or other extreme measures in instilling order, something we often see in other countries including the United States.

"The movement occupy wall street. Where is it now? The US Government has taken it apart."

Thank gawd this link has subtitles.

Yeah, their police force doesn't use Baton and tear gas...they just make sure no one protests too much less they'll be hunted, killed, business taken away and so on...you know, the real stuff.

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RE: Putin claims Obama also is skeptical about the evid... - 6/9/2017 6:19:08 PM

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do you have a pic

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