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BamaD -> RE: Breaking news, Shooting at repub baseball practise (6/15/2017 2:59:45 PM)



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ORIGINAL: PyrotheClown


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ORIGINAL: BamaD


So this happened because he was a violent person, and the law wasn't enforced.


That's my point
If the ATF had half the budget that the NRA spends on congressmen per year,this probably wouldn't have happened


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ORIGINAL: BamaD

One of the doctors said it was like being back in Iraq except that he wasn't allowed to have a gun and shoot back.


Kinda Ironic,none of the republicans in attendance had any firearms on them,they all ways spouse the idea that the best defense against gun violence is a good guy with a gun,yet none of them were packing heat for base ball practice...Then again,who the fuck packs heat to go to base ball practice,but isn't that kinda the point,that it's impractical to be armed and responsible for yer own safety at all times when living day to day in a civilized society .

Maybe,just maybe we should pass some gun laws that make sense,and then follow through with enforcing them,instead of allowing a corporate lobby disguised as a rights advocacy group curtail any effort made to discuss it like adults at the legislative level...

That wouldn't have forced them to enforce the laws that should have been enforced.
Since Congressmen don't com from DC they can't legally carry there.
Had the NRAs policys been followed he
A. wouldn't have been able to own a gun because
B he would be in jail

Who says that DC is a civilised society?




CreativeDominant -> RE: Breaking news, Shooting at repub baseball practise (6/15/2017 3:09:35 PM)


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ORIGINAL: heavyblinker

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ORIGINAL: BoscoX


Still about me... The desperation on your part is palpable, juvenile and stupid [:D]

Back to the topic -

LEFT-WING TWITTER CELEBRATES


You know it's a quality news organization when they do stories on people's twitter feeds.
Oh hey, there are white supremacists on twitter too... I guess this means everyone on the right is out of control with hate and racism.

Anyways, I don't know why pointing out that he was racist is wrong.

I really don't think that shooting up GOP baseball games is going to lead to good things, but I can't say I'm sad that it happened there as opposed to an elementary school or something. Maybe if they hadn't been fighting gun control so hard, it wouldn't have happened?

I guess we'll never know.


So...if they would just give in to what certain people want (and it's been shown that it is those on the left who want MORE gun control, never mind the background checks and waiting periods and age requirements, etc, etc)...then the violence would stop? So, if we just let some people control the government...despite not winning the elections which would allow them to...the violence would stop? Hmmmm...governance by threat. That sounds WONDERFUL!




PyrotheClown -> RE: Breaking news, Shooting at repub baseball practise (6/15/2017 3:27:24 PM)


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ORIGINAL: BamaD



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ORIGINAL: PyrotheClown


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ORIGINAL: BamaD


So this happened because he was a violent person, and the law wasn't enforced.


That's my point
If the ATF had half the budget that the NRA spends on congressmen per year,this probably wouldn't have happened


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ORIGINAL: BamaD

One of the doctors said it was like being back in Iraq except that he wasn't allowed to have a gun and shoot back.


Kinda Ironic,none of the republicans in attendance had any firearms on them,they all ways spouse the idea that the best defense against gun violence is a good guy with a gun,yet none of them were packing heat for base ball practice...Then again,who the fuck packs heat to go to base ball practice,but isn't that kinda the point,that it's impractical to be armed and responsible for yer own safety at all times when living day to day in a civilized society .

Maybe,just maybe we should pass some gun laws that make sense,and then follow through with enforcing them,instead of allowing a corporate lobby disguised as a rights advocacy group curtail any effort made to discuss it like adults at the legislative level...

That wouldn't have forced them to enforce the laws that should have been enforced.
Since Congressmen don't com from DC they can't legally carry there.
Had the NRAs policys been followed he
A. wouldn't have been able to own a gun because
B he would be in jail

Who says that DC is a civilised society?

Virginia is open carry state
DC is a "don't even think about it"state (or should I say "state",since it lacks the representation of a state),but last I checked,there's no laws against having an unloaded gun in yer trunk with a loaded clip right next to it...

I doubt he'd still be in jail for punching a sixteen year old ten years ago,but you are right,if he had been put in jail,there's more of a chance that he wouldn't have been able to have a gun,but if there were,I dunno,In depth screening and background checks,do you think he'd still have a gun then?




BamaD -> RE: Breaking news, Shooting at repub baseball practise (6/15/2017 3:42:31 PM)


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ORIGINAL: PyrotheClown


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ORIGINAL: BamaD



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ORIGINAL: PyrotheClown


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ORIGINAL: BamaD


So this happened because he was a violent person, and the law wasn't enforced.


That's my point
If the ATF had half the budget that the NRA spends on congressmen per year,this probably wouldn't have happened


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ORIGINAL: BamaD

One of the doctors said it was like being back in Iraq except that he wasn't allowed to have a gun and shoot back.


Kinda Ironic,none of the republicans in attendance had any firearms on them,they all ways spouse the idea that the best defense against gun violence is a good guy with a gun,yet none of them were packing heat for base ball practice...Then again,who the fuck packs heat to go to base ball practice,but isn't that kinda the point,that it's impractical to be armed and responsible for yer own safety at all times when living day to day in a civilized society .

Maybe,just maybe we should pass some gun laws that make sense,and then follow through with enforcing them,instead of allowing a corporate lobby disguised as a rights advocacy group curtail any effort made to discuss it like adults at the legislative level...

That wouldn't have forced them to enforce the laws that should have been enforced.
Since Congressmen don't com from DC they can't legally carry there.
Had the NRAs policys been followed he
A. wouldn't have been able to own a gun because
B he would be in jail

Who says that DC is a civilised society?

Virginia is open carry state
DC is a "don't even think about it"state (or should I say "state",since it lacks the representation of a state),but last I checked,there's no laws against having an unloaded gun in yer trunk with a loaded clip right next to it...

I doubt he'd still be in jail for punching a sixteen year old ten years ago,but you are right,if he had been put in jail,there's more of a chance that he wouldn't have been able to have a gun,but if there were,I dunno,In depth screening and background checks,do you think he'd still have a gun then?

If you knew half as much about this as you seem to think you do you would know that to get to VA they would have to commit a crime by driving through DC to get there so DC prevented them from getting there with a firearm.
You would also know that if he had been put away for slapping the girl, or the other offenses you pointed out it isn't maybe he couldn't have gotten the gun legally, there is no way he culd have. The problem is still his belief that disagreeing with them justifies shooting them, and the lack of enforcement of existing law.
As already pointed out lacking a gun he could have done as much damage with a car.




WickedsDesire -> RE: Breaking news, Shooting at repub baseball practise (6/15/2017 3:53:47 PM)

but he did it with a gun didnt he?

or are you now telling us all he could have driven onto the field in his van but the humanitarian in him would not allow the nutter to do so?







PyrotheClown -> RE: Breaking news, Shooting at repub baseball practise (6/15/2017 6:32:13 PM)


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ORIGINAL: BamaD


If you knew half as much about this as you seem to think you do you would know that to get to VA they would have to commit a crime by driving through DC to get there so DC prevented them from getting there with a firearm.


To be perfectly honest,didn't really look too much into this topic.

Gunlaws in DC and all.
Did a campaign in DC once,that's how I know a lil bout the strict gun laws in the capitol,and Yowza,was I glad they were strict.Those areas just outside capitol hill are ghetto as fuck...and I'm from san bernaghetto county,home of meth and corruption.

Heard some'n bout the shooting on the radio just a moment ago and decided to do a quick google

Two of the injured parties were on security detail
I'm guessing they were armed....I mean,security detail for the majority whip on duty,I'm assuming they're packing,probably just a 9mm glocks, but packing AND TRAINED...that means there probably was an armed counter attack on this dumb fuck,and that being the case,a congressman still took at least one bullet right through his pelvis(Ouch).Just a few inches north and that woulda gone septic instantly...


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ORIGINAL: BamaD

As already pointed out lacking a gun he could have done as much damage with a car.



Yeah,no shit huh
Just looked it up,and this fat fuck was just on the other side of the dug out behind third base,and congressmen Scalise was just across the field,leaving practice,at the exit behind first.

Holy fuck,even as a lil kid,I've thrown baseball bats more accurately then this fucker could squeeze off a bullet,and I was no athlete as a kid.Guess he either had last second hesitation or was shoot'n off way too high cause the sights were set for actual distance....like more then a few yards.

Amazing the amount of documentation of a shooting involving a congressman vs any other shooting
Then again,base ball fields,those are pretty damn uniformly designed and describable

So it looks like There Was a few trained good guys with gun's at this one might have made the difference between life and death,and of course there is still much to be said about some fellow with plenty of questionable warning signs that the press has managed to dredge up in...how many hours since the incident......being able to legally buy firearms ... recently .....

but still,my underlying question remains,
Will Scalise see gun rights in the same light now?

more of a rhetorical question,we can only wait and see how he actually acts after this.
But I would like to discuss our baseless and inaccurate predictions





WickedsDesire -> RE: Breaking news, Shooting at repub baseball practise (6/15/2017 7:02:51 PM)

Bampotd is an extremist gun nut wacko with the computing power of an untidy potoato.

bewareEE him riding a tricycle heading towards snowflakes - stabilisers on that probably for he is unstable




BamaD -> RE: Breaking news, Shooting at repub baseball practise (6/15/2017 7:13:37 PM)


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ORIGINAL: PyrotheClown


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ORIGINAL: BamaD


If you knew half as much about this as you seem to think you do you would know that to get to VA they would have to commit a crime by driving through DC to get there so DC prevented them from getting there with a firearm.


To be perfectly honest,didn't really look too much into this topic.

Gunlaws in DC and all.
Did a campaign in DC once,that's how I know a lil bout the strict gun laws in the capitol,and Yowza,was I glad they were strict.Those areas just outside capitol hill are ghetto as fuck...and I'm from san bernaghetto county,home of meth and corruption.

Heard some'n bout the shooting on the radio just a moment ago and decided to do a quick google

Two of the injured parties were on security detail
I'm guessing they were armed....I mean,security detail for the majority whip on duty,I'm assuming they're packing,probably just a 9mm glocks, but packing AND TRAINED...that means there probably was an armed counter attack on this dumb fuck,and that being the case,a congressman still took at least one bullet right through his pelvis(Ouch).Just a few inches north and that woulda gone septic instantly...


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ORIGINAL: BamaD

As already pointed out lacking a gun he could have done as much damage with a car.



Yeah,no shit huh
Just looked it up,and this fat fuck was just on the other side of the dug out behind third base,and congressmen Scalise was just across the field,leaving practice,at the exit behind first.

Holy fuck,even as a lil kid,I've thrown baseball bats more accurately then this fucker could squeeze off a bullet,and I was no athlete as a kid.Guess he either had last second hesitation or was shoot'n off way too high cause the sights were set for actual distance....like more then a few yards.

Amazing the amount of documentation of a shooting involving a congressman vs any other shooting
Then again,base ball fields,those are pretty damn uniformly designed and describable

So it looks like There Was a few trained good guys with gun's at this one might have made the difference between life and death,and of course there is still much to be said about some fellow with plenty of questionable warning signs that the press has managed to dredge up in...how many hours since the incident......being able to legally buy firearms ... recently .....

but still,my underlying question remains,
Will Scalise see gun rights in the same light now?

more of a rhetorical question,we can only wait and see how he actually acts after this.
But I would like to discuss our baseless and inaccurate predictions



Yes the security people were armed.
Most feds carry .40 cals ever since the Miami shootout in the 80s.
Right, good guys with guns stopped a bad guy with a gun.
He got the gun in Illinois where they didn't enforce the law..
As you say, you don't understand gun control issues.
This is not about guns. It is about an unstable person and bad enforcement of the law.
It is his fault and no one elses .
I gave you the precident on chaging because of an incident like this and they didn't, nobody expected Gifford to change her position and she didn't Wallace didn't change, Reagan didn't change. History says there will be no change, that is the way all precident goes, but of course you think that means that my belief is as unfounded as yours.




WickedsDesire -> RE: Breaking news, Shooting at repub baseball practise (6/15/2017 7:51:48 PM)

Your another who drops your pantaloons and shits his pants in my presence - as it should be nappy filler my what a big load




MrRodgers -> RE: Breaking news, Shooting at repub baseball practise (6/16/2017 9:53:19 AM)


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ORIGINAL: Musicmystery

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ORIGINAL: Greta75

Sounds like a potential leftie who is against gun violence using gun violence to prove that gun is violent!

Or someone losing his or a family member's health insurance.

Or someone who thinks these are all RINOs.

Or someone on the right out to shoot people for the hell of it, and when he found out these were Republicans, decided just to wound them instead.

Any other silly baseless speculations?

You forgot to blame Muslims. Maybe a Qatari angry at the current stand-off.

Or maybe just another nut with a gun.


Some insane hysterical people screaming that Republicans are 'pigs' who hate the planet, hate blacks and gays and women, are Russian puppets who stole the election, etc perhaps

Sounds like right wing media.




MrRodgers -> RE: Breaking news, Shooting at repub baseball practise (6/16/2017 9:56:39 AM)


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ORIGINAL: Musicmystery

Could be.

Could be some talentless moron who spends his days trolling the Internet in Idaho or Nevada.

Never know.

Hey now, many very reasonable people...live in Nevada. We even know all about that thing called the interweb.




Hillwilliam -> RE: Breaking news, Shooting at repub baseball practise (6/16/2017 2:00:37 PM)


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ORIGINAL: Nnanji

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ORIGINAL: BoscoX

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ORIGINAL: Nnanji


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ORIGINAL: Musicmystery

Well he was a leftist snowflake.

Now that's funny. 50 shots with a rifle aimed at old men out in the open on a ball field and the only one killed was him.


There's that. When I heard how many rounds were fired and that only a few were wounded, I knew it was a snowflake



I'm guessing it was an AR. A sniper/hunting rifle won't shoot that fast and the .223 shouldn't be expected to cause much damage. You have to hit someone at least three times with a .223 and then hope they don't have medical attention nearby in order to kill a guy with it.

I'm guessing the snowflake believed all of the leftist propaganda about black assault weapons.

Apparently, it was an old SKS.
http://money.cnn.com/2017/06/15/news/sks-rifle-gop-baseball-field-attack/
Not one of those EVULLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLL assault rifles.
It still shoots a 7.62 and packs a hell of a punch.




MrRodgers -> RE: Breaking news, Shooting at repub baseball practise (6/16/2017 4:17:37 PM)


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FR

Related - DEMS VOW TO PUSH RUSSIA HYSTERIA THROUGH ELECTION

Good, now they really are learning how to be repubs. The repubs constantly i.e., never stop...pushing their partisan bullshit.




MrRodgers -> RE: Breaking news, Shooting at repub baseball practise (6/16/2017 4:33:05 PM)


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ORIGINAL: Greta75


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ORIGINAL: BoscoX
Bernie Sanders is a Marxist. A communist in socialist's clothing

Praised Hugo Chavez, another communist, who brought his country and his people nothing but ruin

Everything will be free free free, but wait until the bill comes due children

And the bill always comes due

Yea, we all know Bernie vision for America is unrealistic. His taxes will just make all the wealthy move to lower tax countries. And I believe my country would be one of the first to receive them. We are the Switzerland of Asia. We get rich Americans and Australians giving up citizenship and making our country their home mainly to evade the tax in their home country.

But Bernie would never advocate murder of a political opposition. That I don't believe he is capable of. So this fan of his, has seriously let him down big time!





I am not so sure. Tax rates in Singapore are up to 22% now and Romney for example one year made IIRC $13 million and paid about 13%.

If anybody in the US made their money from capital gains, carried interest or stock dividends...Singapore would be a bit higher tax.

BTW Switzerland tax rates are the same for everybody and get much higher as one begins to move way up in income which is limited to 40%. No improvement iver the highest US rate and much higher that in Singapore.




MrRodgers -> RE: Breaking news, Shooting at repub baseball practise (6/16/2017 4:57:50 PM)


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ORIGINAL: BoscoX


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[image]http://insider.foxnews.com/sites/insider.foxnews.com/files/styles/780/public/042117_coverage.jpg[/image]

June 14th – “Trump is a Traitor. Trump Has Destroyed Our Democracy. It’s Time to Destroy Trump & Co.” The words of James T. Hodgkinson, who decided this morning


Good men got shot....by a crazy fuck....and you bring this.

.....and his sources he claims are all fake news outlets.




MrRodgers -> RE: Breaking news, Shooting at repub baseball practise (6/16/2017 5:01:26 PM)


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ORIGINAL: Hillwilliam


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ORIGINAL: Nnanji


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ORIGINAL: Nnanji

Read the news idiot. He was a Bernie worker. It was on his FB page and his co-Bernie workers have discussed him. There's several pictures of him trying to implement progressive, socialist, taxes. Copies of his letters to newspapers. Lots of stuff, if you can read.

Bernie worker says nothing about religion.
Actually, Jesus fed the hungry, healed the sick, redistributed wealth and was against religion being corrupted by the government.
I guess you could say he was a Liberal.[:D]
Are you going to go whole hog alt-stupid and claim that no Christians were Bernie workers?

Nice try dumbass.

I'm sure glad you can read people's minds idiot. Oh...and that you understand the bible so well.

You and your butt brother Comrade bosco are the ones who claim to know the thoughts of others.
I also apparently am more familiar with the Good Book than you and yours.

I'll have to google where it says, "thou shall be a pompous ass".


of course ive not seen every single one of his posts, but I have never seen hillwilliam use scripture correctly, or show that he understands the bible or Christianity in any of the posts in which he uses/references them.

the same is true here.

I'm aware he uses the lefty "what would Jesus do" version of the bible. I just didn't want to get too far into it. He was showing his ass as it was. That was good enough.

Well seeing as how there are two bibles (alternative bibles...can you imagine ?) and not so much depending on which one you read, there is genocide, murder, slavery.

One is forced to do some very careful cherry-picking to use the bible for any morals at all.




BamaD -> RE: Breaking news, Shooting at repub baseball practise (6/16/2017 5:59:13 PM)


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ORIGINAL: MrRodgers


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ORIGINAL: Greta75


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ORIGINAL: BoscoX
Bernie Sanders is a Marxist. A communist in socialist's clothing

Praised Hugo Chavez, another communist, who brought his country and his people nothing but ruin

Everything will be free free free, but wait until the bill comes due children

And the bill always comes due

Yea, we all know Bernie vision for America is unrealistic. His taxes will just make all the wealthy move to lower tax countries. And I believe my country would be one of the first to receive them. We are the Switzerland of Asia. We get rich Americans and Australians giving up citizenship and making our country their home mainly to evade the tax in their home country.

But Bernie would never advocate murder of a political opposition. That I don't believe he is capable of. So this fan of his, has seriously let him down big time!





I am not so sure. Tax rates in Singapore are up to 22% now and Romney for example one year made IIRC $13 million and paid about 13%.

If anybody in the US made their money from capital gains, carried interest or stock dividends...Singapore would be a bit higher tax.

BTW Switzerland tax rates are the same for everybody and get much higher as one begins to move way up in income which is limited to 40%. No improvement iver the highest US rate and much higher that in Singapore.

You do know that this was do to his deductions for gifts to charty don't you.




MrRodgers -> RE: Breaking news, Shooting at repub baseball practise (6/16/2017 6:39:38 PM)

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ORIGINAL: BamaD


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ORIGINAL: MrRodgers


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ORIGINAL: Greta75


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ORIGINAL: BoscoX
Bernie Sanders is a Marxist. A communist in socialist's clothing

Praised Hugo Chavez, another communist, who brought his country and his people nothing but ruin

Everything will be free free free, but wait until the bill comes due children

And the bill always comes due

Yea, we all know Bernie vision for America is unrealistic. His taxes will just make all the wealthy move to lower tax countries. And I believe my country would be one of the first to receive them. We are the Switzerland of Asia. We get rich Americans and Australians giving up citizenship and making our country their home mainly to evade the tax in their home country.

But Bernie would never advocate murder of a political opposition. That I don't believe he is capable of. So this fan of his, has seriously let him down big time!





I am not so sure. Tax rates in Singapore are up to 22% now and Romney for example one year made IIRC $13 million and paid about 13%.

If anybody in the US made their money from capital gains, carried interest or stock dividends...Singapore would be a bit higher tax.

BTW Switzerland tax rates are the same for everybody and get much higher as one begins to move way up in income which is limited to 40%. No improvement over the highest US rate and much higher that in Singapore.

You do know that this was do to his deductions for gifts to charty don't you.

I don't care. At millions in income, everyone should pay the same top tax rate filing a 1040 irrespective of any charitable giving.




BamaD -> RE: Breaking news, Shooting at repub baseball practise (6/16/2017 8:14:42 PM)


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ORIGINAL: MrRodgers

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ORIGINAL: BamaD


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ORIGINAL: MrRodgers


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ORIGINAL: Greta75


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ORIGINAL: BoscoX
Bernie Sanders is a Marxist. A communist in socialist's clothing

Praised Hugo Chavez, another communist, who brought his country and his people nothing but ruin

Everything will be free free free, but wait until the bill comes due children

And the bill always comes due

Yea, we all know Bernie vision for America is unrealistic. His taxes will just make all the wealthy move to lower tax countries. And I believe my country would be one of the first to receive them. We are the Switzerland of Asia. We get rich Americans and Australians giving up citizenship and making our country their home mainly to evade the tax in their home country.

But Bernie would never advocate murder of a political opposition. That I don't believe he is capable of. So this fan of his, has seriously let him down big time!





I am not so sure. Tax rates in Singapore are up to 22% now and Romney for example one year made IIRC $13 million and paid about 13%.

If anybody in the US made their money from capital gains, carried interest or stock dividends...Singapore would be a bit higher tax.

BTW Switzerland tax rates are the same for everybody and get much higher as one begins to move way up in income which is limited to 40%. No improvement over the highest US rate and much higher that in Singapore.

You do know that this was do to his deductions for gifts to charty don't you.

I don't care. At millions in income, everyone should pay the same top tax rate filing a 1040 irrespective of any charitable giving.

Not going to help you derail.




DaddySatyr -> RE: Breaking news, Shooting at repub baseball practise (6/17/2017 2:17:40 AM)


This incident just verifies the PPLs are fashioning the country they've wanted for fifty years.

Fuck them.


Michael




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