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WickedsDesire -> Senate health care Bill remains shrouded in secrecy (6/15/2017 1:55:17 PM)

Senate health care Bill remains shrouded in secrecy NBC one okay or am I only allowed to cite from Fox News Lavy Pan

WASHINGTON — The Senate is closing in on a health care bill that could affect coverage for tens of millions of Americans and overhaul an industry that makes up one-sixth of the economy.

Only one problem: Almost no one knows what’s in it.

"I think it's being written, uh, by someone somewhere but I'm not aware of who or where," Sen. Rand Paul, R-Kentucky, deadpanned to NBC News. "If you get a copy of it, will you send me a copy?"

In a striking break from how Congress normally crafts legislation, including Obamacare, the Senate is conducting its negotiations behind closed doors. The process began five weeks ago, after the House passed its version of health care reform, with a small working group of 13 senators rather than the broader committees who usually handle the issue.

The opaque process makes it impossible to evaluate whether there are any significant changes coming to health care. There are no hearings with health experts, industry leaders, and patient advocacy groups to weigh in where the public can watch their testimony or where Democrats can offer amendments.

“We'll let you see the bill when we finally release it,” Senate Majority Leader Mitch McConnell (R-KY) told reporters on Tuesday. He added that “nobody is hiding the ball here” and that people were “free to ask anybody anything.”

Free to ask, but answers are another matter. Republican senators are still negotiating over specific pieces of a bill, but they say they’re close enough to producing legislation that they could hold a vote within weeks. They have been tight-lipped on the details, leaving Americans with only a trickle of leaked ideas that are often vague or speculative.

Health and Human Services Secretary Tom Price said in a hearing on Thursday that his staff had provided "technical assistance" to senators working on the bill, but that he had not seen any "legislative language" himself.

Democrats have complained about being shut out, but even some Republican senators have said they’ve had difficulty getting information about the legislation and wished there were more public opportunities to register concerns.

Must be secret because they want to harvest poor peoples organs or something - find trump a brain and all that malarkey




PyrotheClown -> RE: Senate health care Bill remains shrouded in secrecy (6/15/2017 2:09:17 PM)

Guess they wanna leave the lights off and the doors closed for when they fuck us......





WickedsDesire -> RE: Senate health care Bill remains shrouded in secrecy (6/15/2017 3:38:33 PM)

Shambolic the whole trumpnocare.




PyrotheClown -> RE: Senate health care Bill remains shrouded in secrecy (6/15/2017 6:56:46 PM)


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ORIGINAL: WickedsDesire

Shambolic the whole trumpnocare.

An Oxymoron named after a Moron who's just a proxy for even more morons who make money off polluting our oxygen....

The Morons think it's a good idea to let companies charge more for their services so long as the morons who pay more are the one's who need it more and are in no way related to the morons in charge so prices can sore higher then ever before so that the morons who are supposed to be representing every one,the rich,and the poor,can make more from the morons who are actually in charge.

In short,
They think it's a good deal so long as they can sill steal more from those who are too poor to buy the system that's twice the price of the one next door(Canada).

Having said that,I haven't heard it marketed as Trumpcare,altho to be fair,the opposite was never marketed as Obamacare either,but at least you got the sense that Obama cared enough to have read it.






WickedsDesire -> RE: Senate health care Bill remains shrouded in secrecy (6/15/2017 7:09:39 PM)

A little known fact is

He loves his wife Ivanka
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or was it this one
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America should have the best free health care in the world given its expenditure but they rank a little blow raped doggies, and yet still wag their tails?

tremendously sad





Musicmystery -> RE: Senate health care Bill remains shrouded in secrecy (6/15/2017 7:14:48 PM)

~FR~

That can't be. Republicans are the party of openness, of fair hearings, not like Dems and the ACA. They made that clear!

/irony




PyrotheClown -> RE: Senate health care Bill remains shrouded in secrecy (6/15/2017 7:18:49 PM)

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ORIGINAL: WickedsDesire


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I'm soo using this on a fathers day card this year....




WickedsDesire -> RE: Senate health care Bill remains shrouded in secrecy (6/15/2017 8:52:01 PM)

i have 3 cats and will end the night in the gutter, drunky, destitute and alone short of $12 billion I was stiffed out off for my f16 seagulls and squaqy the stealth starling who likes cheese. That the least creepy picture i could post of the pussy snatcher and his fine wifey Ivanka

Trump: If Ivanka weren�t my daughter, I'd be dating her

do you believe either were a one off?

This is Donald Trump's favorite thing he has in common with his daughter




Hillwilliam -> RE: Senate health care Bill remains shrouded in secrecy (6/16/2017 10:18:50 AM)

Let's pass this thing so we can find out what's in it.




Termyn8or -> RE: Senate health care Bill remains shrouded in secrecy (6/16/2017 8:51:31 PM)


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ORIGINAL: Hillwilliam

Let's pass this thing so we can find out what's in it.


I still think that bitch should be boiled in bacon grease. It is their JOB to know what is in it before passing it. Also, if a bill is too long they should pass it back to its sponsors for editing.

We didn't know what was in the PATRIOT ACT, we didn't know what was in the ACA, and even most other bills obscured by alot of text.

There should be a limits and I have an idea of how to do it. Make them read, verbatim, every bill, and attendance is mandatory. With the money and benefits they get they should work a little bit, rather than using their exemption from SEC rules to do their insider trading and other types of fundraising.

Do that and you will see these bills cut down to a reasonable size. In fact maybe they get out of listening to the whole thing by casting an early no vote. Then these bills that are the size of the NY phone book won't get passed at all.

T^T




Nnanji -> RE: Senate health care Bill remains shrouded in secrecy (6/17/2017 9:21:20 AM)


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ORIGINAL: Musicmystery

~FR~

That can't be. Republicans are the party of openness, of fair hearings, not like Dems and the ACA. They made that clear!

/irony

It pisses me off. Obviously more swamp needs to be drained.




MasterG2kTR -> RE: Senate health care Bill remains shrouded in secrecy (6/17/2017 10:46:53 AM)

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ORIGINAL: Nnanji


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ORIGINAL: Musicmystery

~FR~

That can't be. Republicans are the party of openness, of fair hearings, not like Dems and the ACA. They made that clear!

/irony

It pisses me off. Obviously more swamp needs to be drained.



there's only one problem with that.....Trump thinks the swamp is everything that is NOT Washington D.C. [8|]




BoscoX -> RE: Senate health care Bill remains shrouded in secrecy (6/17/2017 10:47:02 AM)

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ORIGINAL: PyrotheClown

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ORIGINAL: WickedsDesire


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I'm soo using this on a fathers day card this year....


You're a fan of photoshop?

Here you are

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mnottertail -> RE: Senate health care Bill remains shrouded in secrecy (6/17/2017 10:54:14 AM)

so, you got some putinjizz felchgobbling skills, anything else? facts? No, you never have had those, compound gimp.




Real0ne -> RE: Senate health care Bill remains shrouded in secrecy (6/17/2017 11:10:55 AM)

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ORIGINAL: Hillwilliam

Let's pass this thing so we can find out what's in it.



yeh thats what they did with the last one and the patriot act [8|]




Termyn8or -> RE: Senate health care Bill remains shrouded in secrecy (6/17/2017 9:44:52 PM)


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ORIGINAL: mnottertail

so, you got some putinjizz felchgobbling skills, anything else? facts? No, you never have had those, compound gimp.


Actually that's all YOU got.

T^T




Nnanji -> RE: Senate health care Bill remains shrouded in secrecy (6/18/2017 7:55:36 AM)


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ORIGINAL: MasterG2kTR

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ORIGINAL: Nnanji


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ORIGINAL: Musicmystery

~FR~

That can't be. Republicans are the party of openness, of fair hearings, not like Dems and the ACA. They made that clear!

/irony

It pisses me off. Obviously more swamp needs to be drained.



there's only one problem with that.....Trump thinks the swamp is everything that is NOT Washington D.C. [8|]

You'll have to provide links to that rather than spewing the kool aid you've been fed.




mnottertail -> RE: Senate health care Bill remains shrouded in secrecy (6/18/2017 8:03:31 AM)


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ORIGINAL: Termyn8or


quote:

ORIGINAL: mnottertail

so, you got some putinjizz felchgobbling skills, anything else? facts? No, you never have had those, compound gimp.


Actually that's all YOU got.

T^T

Facts, its true enough, I got those.




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