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BamaD -> RE: Philando Castile death: Police officer found not guilty (6/20/2017 9:44:04 PM)

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The 6 second during which he told him not too doesn't sound like much but when you think someone is pulling a gun on you it is forever.
And grabing for something the cop can't see when he is telling you not to grab that gun means that he thinks it is a gun you are going for.




mnottertail -> RE: Philando Castile death: Police officer found not guilty (6/21/2017 4:52:54 AM)

This video is stark proof of why we should carry to protect ourselves by shooting cops, before they shoot us.




vincentML -> RE: Philando Castile death: Police officer found not guilty (6/21/2017 7:08:33 AM)


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The report says nothing about "reaching for his gun."

Where did you get that from, Butch??

Officer Yanez told the court he was afraid for his life and said Mr Castile did not follow his orders - but prosecutors argued Mr Castile was courteous and non-threatening.
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He reached for something the officer couldn't see in spite of repeated orders not to. Kd even stated that it turned out not to be a gun but when he continued to reach where the officer couldn't see the officer had to assume the worst.

"repeated orders" . . .??? Now you are making shit up.

Even if you are right how many times does a cop who knows you are armed have to tell you not to reach for sometning he can't see?
I tell a cop I am armed, with a permit and my hands don't move from the steering wheel without directions from him. In otherwords zero. We have a case of terminal stupidity.

FFS, his partner was watching Castile through the passenger door window. Tells you something stinks when the Department fired him.




tweakabelle -> RE: Philando Castile death: Police officer found not guilty (6/21/2017 7:18:22 AM)


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The 6 second during which he told him not too doesn't sound like much but when you think someone is pulling a gun on you it is forever.
And grabing for something the cop can't see when he is telling you not to grab that gun means that he thinks it is a gun you are going for.

I don't understand why the officer had anything to fear. Castile volunteered the information that he had a firearm. From my understanding of the video, he was under no pressure to volunteer this information - the most likely explanation is that he volunteered it in order to avoid any possible misunderstandings. It is not the kind of thing someone with malicious intent does. So why the officer felt he was under any threat is a mystery to me.

I note that in another post, you describe this as a case of "terminal stupidity". (It might just be the case that you are suggesting the cop was the terminally stupid one. And that may well be true. But given your posting history this seems unlikely to me.) Last time I checked, terminal stupidity is not a capital crime. No one should forfeit their life because of terminal stupidity.




ladiesmanservant -> RE: Philando Castile death: Police officer found not guilty (6/21/2017 7:42:36 AM)


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I have read or heard that in 2016 . . .

1155 civilians were killed by police gunfire,

13 officers were brought to trial.

zero convictions

Why is that so?

Hey dude its the USA and sadly black lives don't matter. In fact when hunting season starts the cops think they have license to shoot me a kneeger.




kdsub -> RE: Philando Castile death: Police officer found not guilty (6/21/2017 8:28:05 AM)

Tweak this is not an excuse but you have to realize the dangers of policing cities with large African American populations. Police are being targeted for social ills beyond their ability to remedy. Recognizing a problem is not being racist but just presenting facts. Police are on edge and much more likely to use undue force when dealing with African Americans just so they can go home to their families after their shift.

This police officer was clearly not trained properly and I do not believe he was mentally suited for his job. If fear overtakes your common sense and prevents you from properly handling situations such as this then you have the wrong job.

According to the law this police officer was within his rights to protect himself...but...This is one of those cases where the law was not meant to be used as it was. It is no consolation to the family of the victim but I do believe there will be a civil case against the city and there should be.

Butch




vincentML -> RE: Philando Castile death: Police officer found not guilty (6/21/2017 8:31:32 PM)

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Here is the dashcam video of the shooting. Clearly, the cop panicked. The first shot was fired 46 seconds into the video.

At 40 seconds Castillo reports that he has a gun. Within six seconds Yanez twice tells Castillo "don't pull it out" and fires at 46 seconds. Seven shots. Listen to the panic in his voice. It took only six seconds to snuff a man's life after he politely informs the cop about the gun. Six seconds. The Jury's verdict is incredible to me.

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WickedsDesire -> RE: Philando Castile death: Police officer found not guilty (6/21/2017 9:45:21 PM)

Oh! Someone decided to thread this one, and here was me thinking many of you were heartless or simply didn't care about another golliwog from the savage realms.

Hero from police death squads pumps yet another nigger full of bullets.

What was his testimony -
1. I pulled the criminal nigger over
2, He told me he had a concealed permit
3. I pumped him full of bullets
4. I had a bit of a think about mowing down the 4 year olde running from the car but I had run out of nigger bullets

Case dismissed.

When is nigger hunting season in America anyway - seasonal, or can i come over pretty much any time and bag me a couple of darkies?

Oh I threaded this one - I just cant keep up with all your nigger hunts.

Here is the movie

Philando Castile death: Police footage released

A video showing the fatal shooting of a black Minnesota motorist by a police officer has been released days after the officer was acquitted.

Jeronimo Yanez shot Philando Castile during a traffic stop in Falcon Heights last July, and the aftermath was live-streamed on Facebook by his girlfriend.

The officer called for emergency responders and later is heard saying: "I don't know where the gun was."

The footage appeared to corroborate Ms Reynolds' account of the incident. which she filmed immediately following the shooting.

The shocking 10-minute video shows a calm, polite encounter between the two men that escalated quickly.

But the video, played for the jury during Mr Yanez's trial, did not show what was happening inside the car and what Mr Castile was reaching for just before he was shot.

A jury cleared Mr Yanez on Friday, sparking protests in the city of St Paul.




BamaD -> RE: Philando Castile death: Police officer found not guilty (6/21/2017 10:09:23 PM)


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The report says nothing about "reaching for his gun."

Where did you get that from, Butch??

Officer Yanez told the court he was afraid for his life and said Mr Castile did not follow his orders - but prosecutors argued Mr Castile was courteous and non-threatening.
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He reached for something the officer couldn't see in spite of repeated orders not to. Kd even stated that it turned out not to be a gun but when he continued to reach where the officer couldn't see the officer had to assume the worst.

"repeated orders" . . .??? Now you are making shit up.

Even if you are right how many times does a cop who knows you are armed have to tell you not to reach for sometning he can't see?
I tell a cop I am armed, with a permit and my hands don't move from the steering wheel without directions from him. In otherwords zero. We have a case of terminal stupidity.

FFS, his partner was watching Castile through the passenger door window. Tells you something stinks when the Department fired him.

Yep, it tells you the obvious that anythink he does in th future will be suied and taken to court, the department can't afford to keep him, has nothung to do with his guilt or inocence.




BamaD -> RE: Philando Castile death: Police officer found not guilty (6/21/2017 10:11:28 PM)


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The 6 second during which he told him not too doesn't sound like much but when you think someone is pulling a gun on you it is forever.
And grabing for something the cop can't see when he is telling you not to grab that gun means that he thinks it is a gun you are going for.

I don't understand why the officer had anything to fear. Castile volunteered the information that he had a firearm. From my understanding of the video, he was under no pressure to volunteer this information - the most likely explanation is that he volunteered it in order to avoid any possible misunderstandings. It is not the kind of thing someone with malicious intent does. So why the officer felt he was under any threat is a mystery to me.

I note that in another post, you describe this as a case of "terminal stupidity". (It might just be the case that you are suggesting the cop was the terminally stupid one. And that may well be true. But given your posting history this seems unlikely to me.) Last time I checked, terminal stupidity is not a capital crime. No one should forfeit their life because of terminal stupidity.

Here it is required by law.
He was reching for something the cop couldn't see and refused to keep his hands where the cop could see them.




BamaD -> RE: Philando Castile death: Police officer found not guilty (6/21/2017 10:14:31 PM)


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The 6 second during which he told him not too doesn't sound like much but when you think someone is pulling a gun on you it is forever.
And grabing for something the cop can't see when he is telling you not to grab that gun means that he thinks it is a gun you are going for.

I don't understand why the officer had anything to fear. Castile volunteered the information that he had a firearm. From my understanding of the video, he was under no pressure to volunteer this information - the most likely explanation is that he volunteered it in order to avoid any possible misunderstandings. It is not the kind of thing someone with malicious intent does. So why the officer felt he was under any threat is a mystery to me.

I note that in another post, you describe this as a case of "terminal stupidity". (It might just be the case that you are suggesting the cop was the terminally stupid one. And that may well be true. But given your posting history this seems unlikely to me.) Last time I checked, terminal stupidity is not a capital crime. No one should forfeit their life because of terminal stupidity.

You don't read so well, Castile wsas termanally stupid, you always keep your hands where the cop can see them. He ignored commands that ha he been at all smart he wouldn't have needed them.




BamaD -> RE: Philando Castile death: Police officer found not guilty (6/21/2017 10:20:49 PM)


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Here is the dashcam video of the shooting. Clearly, the cop panicked. The first shot was fired 46 seconds into the video.

At 40 seconds Castillo reports that he has a gun. Within six seconds Yanez twice tells Castillo "don't pull it out" and fires at 46 seconds. Seven shots. Listen to the panic in his voice. It took only six seconds to snuff a man's life after he politely informs the cop about the gun. Six seconds. The Jury's verdict is incredible to me.

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Politely? It was loud enough that the dash cam in the car picked it up several yards away.
Then the idiot grabs for something out of the cops sight and ignores orders not to.
You previously claimed I "was making shite up" when I told you he was ordered not to grab there now you are saying that he wasn't given enought time, the cop obviously should have waited till he was staring down the barrell of a gun.




igor2003 -> RE: Philando Castile death: Police officer found not guilty (6/21/2017 11:28:31 PM)


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Here is the dashcam video of the shooting. Clearly, the cop panicked. The first shot was fired 46 seconds into the video.

At 40 seconds Castillo reports that he has a gun. Within six seconds Yanez twice tells Castillo "don't pull it out" and fires at 46 seconds. Seven shots. Listen to the panic in his voice. It took only six seconds to snuff a man's life after he politely informs the cop about the gun. Six seconds. The Jury's verdict is incredible to me.

SOURCE



Politely? It was loud enough that the dash cam in the car picked it up several yards away.
Then the idiot grabs for something out of the cops sight and ignores orders not to.
You previously claimed I "was making shite up" when I told you he was ordered not to grab there now you are saying that he wasn't given enought time, the cop obviously should have waited till he was staring down the barrell of a gun.

Yes, "politely" is a good description. You could clearly hear the cop speaking . . . or was HE yelling loud enough to be heard from yards away? No, he was heard over his lapel mike, the same one that you could hear Castile speaking calmly from about 2-3 FEET away.

Grab? Where does the term "grab" come from? That implies a quick movement to reach for something? If it was a quick move, then how did the cop have time to repeat himself? A "reach" would probably be considerably more accurate. You use the term "grab" for one reason only, and that is to try to justify the cops unwarranted reaction.

Lastly, after Castile tells the cop that he has a firearm the cop tells him to not pull it out. Castile replies that he is not pulling it out. The cop then tells him again to not pull it out. If Castile was reaching for his license, probably in his hip pocket, which the cop had told him to get, then he was NOT pulling the gun out.

I agree that he should have stopped what he was doing immediately, but the fact remains that he WAS following the cops instructions and got killed for it.




BamaD -> RE: Philando Castile death: Police officer found not guilty (6/22/2017 1:51:52 AM)

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Here is the dashcam video of the shooting. Clearly, the cop panicked. The first shot was fired 46 seconds into the video.

At 40 seconds Castillo reports that he has a gun. Within six seconds Yanez twice tells Castillo "don't pull it out" and fires at 46 seconds. Seven shots. Listen to the panic in his voice. It took only six seconds to snuff a man's life after he politely informs the cop about the gun. Six seconds. The Jury's verdict is incredible to me.

SOURCE



Politely? It was loud enough that the dash cam in the car picked it up several yards away.
Then the idiot grabs for something out of the cops sight and ignores orders not to.
You previously claimed I "was making shite up" when I told you he was ordered not to grab there now you are saying that he wasn't given enought time, the cop obviously should have waited till he was staring down the barrell of a gun.

Yes, "politely" is a good description. You could clearly hear the cop speaking . . . or was HE yelling loud enough to be heard from yards away? No, he was heard over his lapel mike, the same one that you could hear Castile speaking calmly from about 2-3 FEET away.

Grab? Where does the term "grab" come from? That implies a quick movement to reach for something? If it was a quick move, then how did the cop have time to repeat himself? A "reach" would probably be considerably more accurate. You use the term "grab" for one reason only, and that is to try to justify the cops unwarranted reaction.

Lastly, after Castile tells the cop that he has a firearm the cop tells him to not pull it out. Castile replies that he is not pulling it out. The cop then tells him again to not pull it out. If Castile was reaching for his license, probably in his hip pocket, which the cop had told him to get, then he was NOT pulling the gun out.

I agree that he should have stopped what he was doing immediately, but the fact remains that he WAS following the cops instructions and got killed for it.

If he had put his hands back where the cop could see them he would be alive.
It does look like you have a point about the cops mike, however if Castile ddn't have to yell neither did the cop. The vtdeo didn't show how he was moving. I think he video got the cop off. You remember the cop kept repeating that he told lnot to do it.
There is also the of fchance that the jury may have had a little more information than we do.




vincentML -> RE: Philando Castile death: Police officer found not guilty (6/22/2017 8:11:41 AM)


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Here is the dashcam video of the shooting. Clearly, the cop panicked. The first shot was fired 46 seconds into the video.

At 40 seconds Castillo reports that he has a gun. Within six seconds Yanez twice tells Castillo "don't pull it out" and fires at 46 seconds. Seven shots. Listen to the panic in his voice. It took only six seconds to snuff a man's life after he politely informs the cop about the gun. Six seconds. The Jury's verdict is incredible to me.

SOURCE



Politely? It was loud enough that the dash cam in the car picked it up several yards away.
Then the idiot grabs for something out of the cops sight and ignores orders not to.
You previously claimed I "was making shite up" when I told you he was ordered not to grab there now you are saying that he wasn't given enought time, the cop obviously should have waited till he was staring down the barrell of a gun.

Yes, "politely" is a good description. You could clearly hear the cop speaking . . . or was HE yelling loud enough to be heard from yards away? No, he was heard over his lapel mike, the same one that you could hear Castile speaking calmly from about 2-3 FEET away.

Grab? Where does the term "grab" come from? That implies a quick movement to reach for something? If it was a quick move, then how did the cop have time to repeat himself? A "reach" would probably be considerably more accurate. You use the term "grab" for one reason only, and that is to try to justify the cops unwarranted reaction.

Lastly, after Castile tells the cop that he has a firearm the cop tells him to not pull it out. Castile replies that he is not pulling it out. The cop then tells him again to not pull it out. If Castile was reaching for his license, probably in his hip pocket, which the cop had told him to get, then he was NOT pulling the gun out.

I agree that he should have stopped what he was doing immediately, but the fact remains that he WAS following the cops instructions and got killed for it.

If he had put his hands back where the cop could see them he would be alive.
It does look like you have a point about the cops mike, however if Castile ddn't have to yell neither did the cop. The vtdeo didn't show how he was moving. I think he video got the cop off. You remember the cop kept repeating that he told lnot to do it.
There is also the of fchance that the jury may have had a little more information than we do.

Yanez said it only twice. You keep trying to stretch the truth.

Six seconds, seven shots, no gun in sight, cop fired from the Force a bit too late.

Yanez panicked. . . .six seconds, seven shots, no gun in sight.

Tragic. . . driving while black. . . . Black Lives Matter.




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