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The report says nothing about "reaching for his gun."

Where did you get that from, Butch??

Officer Yanez told the court he was afraid for his life and said Mr Castile did not follow his orders - but prosecutors argued Mr Castile was courteous and non-threatening.

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He reached for something the officer couldn't see in spite of repeated orders not to. Kd even stated that it turned out not to be a gun but when he continued to reach where the officer couldn't see the officer had to assume the worst.

"repeated orders" . . .??? Now you are making shit up.

Even if you are right how many times does a cop who knows you are armed have to tell you not to reach for sometning he can't see?
I tell a cop I am armed, with a permit and my hands don't move from the steering wheel without directions from him. In otherwords zero. We have a case of terminal stupidity.

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The 6 second during which he told him not too doesn't sound like much but when you think someone is pulling a gun on you it is forever.
And grabing for something the cop can't see when he is telling you not to grab that gun means that he thinks it is a gun you are going for.

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I have read or heard that in 2016 . . .

1155 civilians were killed by police gunfire,

13 officers were brought to trial.

zero convictions

Why is that so?

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The report says nothing about "reaching for his gun."

Where did you get that from, Butch??

Officer Yanez told the court he was afraid for his life and said Mr Castile did not follow his orders - but prosecutors argued Mr Castile was courteous and non-threatening.

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He reached for something the officer couldn't see in spite of repeated orders not to. Kd even stated that it turned out not to be a gun but when he continued to reach where the officer couldn't see the officer had to assume the worst.

"repeated orders" . . .??? Now you are making shit up.

Even if you are right how many times does a cop who knows you are armed have to tell you not to reach for sometning he can't see?
I tell a cop I am armed, with a permit and my hands don't move from the steering wheel without directions from him. In otherwords zero. We have a case of terminal stupidity.

FFS, his partner was watching Castile through the passenger door window. Tells you something stinks when the Department fired him.

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The 6 second during which he told him not too doesn't sound like much but when you think someone is pulling a gun on you it is forever.
And grabing for something the cop can't see when he is telling you not to grab that gun means that he thinks it is a gun you are going for.

I don't understand why the officer had anything to fear. Castile volunteered the information that he had a firearm. From my understanding of the video, he was under no pressure to volunteer this information - the most likely explanation is that he volunteered it in order to avoid any possible misunderstandings. It is not the kind of thing someone with malicious intent does. So why the officer felt he was under any threat is a mystery to me.

I note that in another post, you describe this as a case of "terminal stupidity". (It might just be the case that you are suggesting the cop was the terminally stupid one. And that may well be true. But given your posting history this seems unlikely to me.) Last time I checked, terminal stupidity is not a capital crime. No one should forfeit their life because of terminal stupidity.

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The 6 second during which he told him not too doesn't sound like much but when you think someone is pulling a gun on you it is forever.
And grabing for something the cop can't see when he is telling you not to grab that gun means that he thinks it is a gun you are going for.

I don't understand why the officer had anything to fear. Castile volunteered the information that he had a firearm. From my understanding of the video, he was under no pressure to volunteer this information - the most likely explanation is that he volunteered it in order to avoid any possible misunderstandings. It is not the kind of thing someone with malicious intent does. So why the officer felt he was under any threat is a mystery to me.

I note that in another post, you describe this as a case of "terminal stupidity". (It might just be the case that you are suggesting the cop was the terminally stupid one. And that may well be true. But given your posting history this seems unlikely to me.) Last time I checked, terminal stupidity is not a capital crime. No one should forfeit their life because of terminal stupidity.

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Here is the dashcam video of the shooting. Clearly, the cop panicked. The first shot was fired 46 seconds into the video.

At 40 seconds Castillo reports that he has a gun. Within six seconds Yanez twice tells Castillo "don't pull it out" and fires at 46 seconds. Seven shots. Listen to the panic in his voice. It took only six seconds to snuff a man's life after he politely informs the cop about the gun. Six seconds. The Jury's verdict is incredible to me.

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Here is the dashcam video of the shooting. Clearly, the cop panicked. The first shot was fired 46 seconds into the video.

At 40 seconds Castillo reports that he has a gun. Within six seconds Yanez twice tells Castillo "don't pull it out" and fires at 46 seconds. Seven shots. Listen to the panic in his voice. It took only six seconds to snuff a man's life after he politely informs the cop about the gun. Six seconds. The Jury's verdict is incredible to me.

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Politely? It was loud enough that the dash cam in the car picked it up several yards away.
Then the idiot grabs for something out of the cops sight and ignores orders not to.
You previously claimed I "was making shite up" when I told you he was ordered not to grab there now you are saying that he wasn't given enought time, the cop obviously should have waited till he was staring down the barrell of a gun.

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Here is the dashcam video of the shooting. Clearly, the cop panicked. The first shot was fired 46 seconds into the video.

At 40 seconds Castillo reports that he has a gun. Within six seconds Yanez twice tells Castillo "don't pull it out" and fires at 46 seconds. Seven shots. Listen to the panic in his voice. It took only six seconds to snuff a man's life after he politely informs the cop about the gun. Six seconds. The Jury's verdict is incredible to me.

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Politely? It was loud enough that the dash cam in the car picked it up several yards away.
Then the idiot grabs for something out of the cops sight and ignores orders not to.
You previously claimed I "was making shite up" when I told you he was ordered not to grab there now you are saying that he wasn't given enought time, the cop obviously should have waited till he was staring down the barrell of a gun.

Yes, "politely" is a good description. You could clearly hear the cop speaking . . . or was HE yelling loud enough to be heard from yards away? No, he was heard over his lapel mike, the same one that you could hear Castile speaking calmly from about 2-3 FEET away.

Grab? Where does the term "grab" come from? That implies a quick movement to reach for something? If it was a quick move, then how did the cop have time to repeat himself? A "reach" would probably be considerably more accurate. You use the term "grab" for one reason only, and that is to try to justify the cops unwarranted reaction.

Lastly, after Castile tells the cop that he has a firearm the cop tells him to not pull it out. Castile replies that he is not pulling it out. The cop then tells him again to not pull it out. If Castile was reaching for his license, probably in his hip pocket, which the cop had told him to get, then he was NOT pulling the gun out.

I agree that he should have stopped what he was doing immediately, but the fact remains that he WAS following the cops instructions and got killed for it.

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Here is the dashcam video of the shooting. Clearly, the cop panicked. The first shot was fired 46 seconds into the video.

At 40 seconds Castillo reports that he has a gun. Within six seconds Yanez twice tells Castillo "don't pull it out" and fires at 46 seconds. Seven shots. Listen to the panic in his voice. It took only six seconds to snuff a man's life after he politely informs the cop about the gun. Six seconds. The Jury's verdict is incredible to me.

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Politely? It was loud enough that the dash cam in the car picked it up several yards away.
Then the idiot grabs for something out of the cops sight and ignores orders not to.
You previously claimed I "was making shite up" when I told you he was ordered not to grab there now you are saying that he wasn't given enought time, the cop obviously should have waited till he was staring down the barrell of a gun.

Yes, "politely" is a good description. You could clearly hear the cop speaking . . . or was HE yelling loud enough to be heard from yards away? No, he was heard over his lapel mike, the same one that you could hear Castile speaking calmly from about 2-3 FEET away.

Grab? Where does the term "grab" come from? That implies a quick movement to reach for something? If it was a quick move, then how did the cop have time to repeat himself? A "reach" would probably be considerably more accurate. You use the term "grab" for one reason only, and that is to try to justify the cops unwarranted reaction.

Lastly, after Castile tells the cop that he has a firearm the cop tells him to not pull it out. Castile replies that he is not pulling it out. The cop then tells him again to not pull it out. If Castile was reaching for his license, probably in his hip pocket, which the cop had told him to get, then he was NOT pulling the gun out.

I agree that he should have stopped what he was doing immediately, but the fact remains that he WAS following the cops instructions and got killed for it.

If he had put his hands back where the cop could see them he would be alive.
It does look like you have a point about the cops mike, however if Castile ddn't have to yell neither did the cop. The vtdeo didn't show how he was moving. I think he video got the cop off. You remember the cop kept repeating that he told lnot to do it.
There is also the of fchance that the jury may have had a little more information than we do.