Termyn8or
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So for kids <17 do you believe 13, 000 dead and 60, 000 seriously wounded on a ten year cycle is acceptable
Yes or no?
While you insist on trying to portray guns as the LEADING cause of deaths to children, it is not.
Even when you try to portray it as the leading cause of accidental deaths you are still wrong.
From the CDC
The five leading causes of death among teenagers are Accidents (unintentional injuries), homicide, suicide, cancer, and heart disease. Accidents account for nearly one-half of all teenage deaths.
As a category of accidents, motor vehicle fatality is the leading cause of death to teenagers, representing over one-third of all deaths.
Deaths to teenagers 12-19 years comprise a small fraction of the total deaths occurring each year in the United States. From 1999 to 2006 less than 1 percent (0.68 percent)–or 131,000 deaths–occurred to teenagers 12-19 years. This represents an average of 16,375 deaths per year for this group. Teenage mortality is an important public health issue because the majority of deaths among teenagers are caused by external causes of injury such as accidents, homicide, and suicide. These causes of death are, by definition, preventable.
But then there is this nice tidbit
Now, you save 1300 children a year by removing guns from society, so let me ask you this, you hypocritical prick, what the fuck are you going to do about the other 19000 plus or minus kids who die in car accidents caused by fucking stupid drivers, by accidentally drinking something poisonous (like some of mom's cosmetics) or see some pills that look like candy and swallow a bottle, or maybe decide to over dose on flavored children's medication, or drown because putting a fence around a pool fucks up the pretty landscaping, or the fifty or so other ways kids die because some fucking adult didnt have the brains to do something to prevent it?
How about the teenage drivers who went to see Fast And Furious and decide to street race like they saw in the movies and wrap their precious bodies around a light pole, (maybe taking a few others with them?)
Or how about the kid that watches mom and dad have a good time with alcohol and then drinks him/herself into alcohol poisoning.
What irratates the fuck out of me and other responsible gun owners is that you people want to hold ALL (about 63 million Americans) responsible for the criminal behavior or stupidity of less than 1% of gun owners.
Did you know that for the last 10 years most gun shops (about 90%) give a gun lock FREE to a gun purchaser?
So, those kids killed accidentally by guns are due primarily because the gun owner was a stupid fuck that should not be allowed to have kids, let alone a gun.
But yeah, by all means blame the 60 million responsible people for those 1300 deaths a year.
Yeah, I agree gun related deaths in the US is higher than every other developed nation in the world.
However, when you consider that there are 270 MILLION guns in the US, to hold all gun owners, gun sellers, or the gun lobby responsible for the actions of less than one percent of the population is bullshit.
Funny thing is that the gun laws in the US could prevent about half those deaths IF the same fucking legislatures that yell for gun bans would stop and realize that the one sure way to stop people who should not be able to buy guns from buying them was made fucking mandatory.
But, by all means, lets respect the privacy of the jackass that beat the shit out of his girlfriend and ended up with a protective order against him so that it does not impact his personal life by being reported to the national criminal database.
Guess what fuckhead, under federal law, if you have a protective order against you, you cannot legally buy a gun, BUT if the seller has no way to find that out on a back ground check you think Mr. Jackass is going to volunteer that information?
Or, if you are under indictment for a violent crime or felony, you cannot legally buy a fire arm either, however, if that arrest and indictment is not on the national record, the seller has no way to find out.
Or, if you have been institutionalized for a mental illness due with violent episodes, you cannot legally buy a gun either until you have been adjudicated by a judge in a competency hearing and that right restored, but hey, if the seller has no way to find that out, he does not know he cant sell the nut job a gun.....
For that matter if you are under doctor's orders to take anti psychotics for any reason, you cant buy a gun, but again, it is not mandatory for that to be reported, even though it is FEDERAL GUN LAW.
And those laws were supported by the NRA!
Why is it not mandatory, because those liberal anti gun shit for brains congressmen and women want to protect the privacy of citizens.
However, the guy that is on the sex offender registry for trying to hire a hooker for the night in NYC is blacklisted for life.
Stop trying to pull the holier than thou bullshit when you are ignoring things that kill more kids than guns. I mean shit, daily I see idiots blasting through residential areas at 20 over the speed limit in spite of signs that warn that children play in the yards along those same fucking streets.
And banning guns does not stop all gun crime, regardless of what you might claim. Terrorists get guns in to countries with some fucking draconian anti gun laws.
Private gun ownership is damn near illegal in Mexico, but guns kill almost as many people as in the US. Guns are illegal in Thailand, and they get more gun related deaths than the US, due to the opium coming out of Cambodia and Laos.
Don't try to use logic and facts on an asshole like that.
Wears out your keyboard. Them things are like five bucks, almost the cost of a six pack. I wouldn't waste one beer on the likes of these assholes.
And BTW, 1,300 is a drop in the bucket, I simply do not care. If you do not want our kids shot, don't shoot them. Also, do not let them hang around with those who would shoot them. If you cannot handle that then you are not an effective Parent.
Was watching TV with Ma the other day and all kinds of bad shit happened to someone. I said "You know why this type of shit does not happen to us ? ". I went on "Because we stay away from certain people, like n____s, people with piercings through their whole fucking head, tattoos that would make them unemployable even at a fucking circus and a few other types, like those who don't/won't talk right".
And we do not do certain things. Deal drugs, tell you what, I did try that when I was younger but as a White person with a brain I only dealt with people I know. Then I tried growing and that flopped when all the plants turned out to be male.
But when I was "on vacation" for drunk driving, well they said I was drunk, I talked to some Black people who were i there for selling drugs. I said "Know why you n___s are in here for selling crack, because you are on the streetcorner going 'dimes dimes, anyone need any dimes ?', look, you are making seven grand a week, get a fucking apartment". They countered with the fact that it is hard to run from an apartment. I countered with the fact that they were here in jail so their plan did not work out quite perfectly.
We are a society of criminals. Even if you have never smoked a joint I bet you know a dealer if you live in the US.
Personally, I have come to like the lawlessness of this land. I have gotten used to it. They talk 1,300 kids, I simply do not care. And that doesn't even account for how many of them were 17 and committing rape or some shit, or got into a bad drug deal. Know why less Whites have this problem ? Because we deal with people we know.
Want a real solution ? Make all drugs legal, period. I understand that some should be prescribed by doctors for the sick, like blood pressure meds and so forth but anyone should be able to get anything. If you want to kill yourself more power toya. Take a load off of society and we'll find a mass grave in which to bury you. They should sell crack and coke and even that new opioid that almost killed that cop in drugstores. As long as there is a warning on the label. Just like on a ladder "DO NOT EAT". I think anyone who eats a ladder deserves whatever happens. Like a Waring blender, "DO NOT USE IN A BATHTUB". I you are that stupid you are welcome to leave the gene pool. Collect your Darwin award, you have earned it.
The time has come to stop keeping stupid and useless motherfuckers alive. Life is becoming less and less precious every day, and it is because of the garbage we are producing. Life used to be a good thing.
You went to a funeral and in all that there was "He was a good Man, supported his family, left five kids who are all doing well" and shit like that. Now you got "He abused his olady, raped two of his kids who are now institutionalised, never went to school and robbed a liquor store where the cops killed him".
See any difference there ?
It is long past time for good people with guns to start shooting bad people with guns. We have the law on our side, Castle Law Doctrine and Stand Your Ground. We wanted that and fought for that, and now we have it. It is time to stop filling the prisons and start filling holes in the ground.
I know this is a harsh judgement, and I know it might be too late. But it is time for this. And if think this is just big talk come on up to Ohio and I will do my talking with lead. This whole society is slipping into the mud and it is not guns causing it, it is people. Those people need to be shot.
Look at the disarmed kids in other countries posting here, using cartoons caricatures etc. to describe us, poking fun at having a serious problem. Those are not the actions of adults. Only adults can have guns.
They are sickening.
T^T
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