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mnottertail -> RE: HANDEL WINS (6/21/2017 9:39:31 AM)

https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2017/06/20/us/politics/georgia-6th-most-expensive-house-election.html

9K votes losss in a solid nutsucker district by a carpetbagger unknown who does not even live in the district..............

Oh, theres problems alright, but there is also problems.




BoscoX -> RE: HANDEL WINS (6/21/2017 9:57:16 AM)


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ORIGINAL: servantforuse

And such a fine bill it was. Affordable Care ? Not so much.


Only ObamaCare insurer in most Iowa counties to hike premiums by 43.5 percent




WickedsDesire -> RE: HANDEL WINS (6/21/2017 10:05:30 AM)

The vacancy arose when Tom Price left to become health secretary. He had won the seat with a 23 point lead.
So cut to 5ish points now was it?

Spending on candidates was put at $56m (£44m), making it the costliest congressional election in US history.

The suspected gunman was a Democratic supporter and a Republican advert that sought to politicise the attack was condemned by Ms Handel. Bunch of sick twisted fuks you right wing extremists nutters

Anyone got the advert or the one for Comey?




mnottertail -> RE: HANDEL WINS (6/21/2017 10:15:50 AM)

http://www.factcheck.org/UploadedFiles/2015/02/kff-chart.png

and the rates overall have been dropping since ACA rather than NutsuckerCare.





heavyblinker -> RE: HANDEL WINS (6/21/2017 10:26:12 AM)

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As much as I despise agreeing with Bosco on anything, it stands to reason that if Obama had done more to help the Rust Belt before the election, Hillary would have walked away with it. His presidency was always sort of more about him than his party... he didn't do enough PR or associate himself with his party's values. Even though he left office with a high approval rating, it didn't matter because he didn't tie it to his party.

This definitely isn't a trend, though... the Democrats were the ones hoping for a shift here.

They keep clinging to the 'FFS Trump is AWFUL' narrative and while it is 100% true, it's not working because nobody gives a shit.

The Russia thing is serious, but people don't care about treason or betraying America as much as they care about jobs, their futures, their quality of life-- none of which have been improved by neoliberalism and the well-off elites, which is what the Democrats still represent to a large number of people.

You're so funny. People don't agree with you and it's either they don't give a shit in mass or they're all stupid.


I am talking about normal people, ie: NOT YOU.

If Trump confessed outright to everything in the dossier, you would be screaming that it was all a liberal plot and go on and on about how the deep state has taken over the country or some outlandish shit.
You're fucking lost.

Russia isn't an issue because people actually care that Trump broke the law-- the left just wants to see Trump go down for any reason because he's a piece of shit, the right denies it's real and repeats Trump's insanity verbatim... but there are also other people who avoid these discussions and only really care about the usual things like jobs, their families, their futures.

To be honest, I don't even think I would care if I wasn't so anxious to see Trump go down.
I despise everything he represents and fear that people will be stupid enough to vote for him again, and so anything that would remove him from power is good.




WickedsDesire -> RE: HANDEL WINS (6/21/2017 11:28:53 AM)

I dont understand that.

It suddenly went mental from 1980 onward % GDP wise

Your graph is telling, for America, its actual (premium increases) went down substantially under handsome Obama - am I reading this right?




mnottertail -> RE: HANDEL WINS (6/21/2017 11:40:04 AM)

Yes, but overall. Unfortunately consumers (non-group) were hit hard. slightly worse than they were in the old days probably.




WickedsDesire -> RE: HANDEL WINS (6/21/2017 11:53:46 AM)

Lost me a little I see three time blocks.
1. 73% Increase
2. 34%
3. 26% I get these are still hefty leaps, but not 73% wise

And for arguments sake lets call inflation and earning close in all three time blocks

Non-group is?




Nnanji -> RE: HANDEL WINS (6/21/2017 3:11:29 PM)


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ORIGINAL: heavyblinker

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ORIGINAL: Nnanji


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ORIGINAL: heavyblinker

As much as I despise agreeing with Bosco on anything, it stands to reason that if Obama had done more to help the Rust Belt before the election, Hillary would have walked away with it. His presidency was always sort of more about him than his party... he didn't do enough PR or associate himself with his party's values. Even though he left office with a high approval rating, it didn't matter because he didn't tie it to his party.

This definitely isn't a trend, though... the Democrats were the ones hoping for a shift here.

They keep clinging to the 'FFS Trump is AWFUL' narrative and while it is 100% true, it's not working because nobody gives a shit.

The Russia thing is serious, but people don't care about treason or betraying America as much as they care about jobs, their futures, their quality of life-- none of which have been improved by neoliberalism and the well-off elites, which is what the Democrats still represent to a large number of people.

You're so funny. People don't agree with you and it's either they don't give a shit in mass or they're all stupid.


I am talking about normal people, ie: NOT YOU.

If Trump confessed outright to everything in the dossier, you would be screaming that it was all a liberal plot and go on and on about how the deep state has taken over the country or some outlandish shit.
You're fucking lost.

Russia isn't an issue because people actually care that Trump broke the law-- the left just wants to see Trump go down for any reason because he's a piece of shit, the right denies it's real and repeats Trump's insanity verbatim... but there are also other people who avoid these discussions and only really care about the usual things like jobs, their families, their futures.

To be honest, I don't even think I would care if I wasn't so anxious to see Trump go down.
I despise everything he represents and fear that people will be stupid enough to vote for him again, and so anything that would remove him from power is good.


Apparently you don't know shit. But you think that's cute don't you?




CreativeDominant -> RE: HANDEL WINS (6/21/2017 3:34:01 PM)


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ORIGINAL: Musicmystery

Right. So it's STILL about Obama.

How long you figure it will still be about Obama?

Is this going to be a butthurt 'til the end of time, like the New Deal or the Great Society?

Like the butthurt over Bush? The one that lasted 8 years?




mnottertail -> RE: HANDEL WINS (6/21/2017 3:36:04 PM)

You nutsucker putinjizz gobblers are still buttfucked about Bill Clinton for fucks sake. You fucking snowflakes need a safe space in some airport bathroom.




bounty44 -> RE: HANDEL WINS (6/21/2017 4:04:26 PM)

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bounty44 -> RE: HANDEL WINS (6/21/2017 4:30:51 PM)

quote:

ORIGINAL: WickedsDesire

I dont understand that.

It suddenly went mental from 1980 onward % GDP wise

Your graph is telling, for America, its actual (premium increases) went down substantially under handsome Obama - am I reading this right?


never mind that Obama promised premiums would go DOWN, sorry, mnottertroll is the last person you want to believe about anything that requires academic integrity (the first being his information is three years old and only touches on one aspect of the market and insurance coverage), especially as concerns the failings of the left:

http://abcnews.go.com/Health/health-care-premiums-rising-obamacare/story?id=43047190

http://www.cbsnews.com/news/study-insurance-costs-to-soar-under-obamacare/

https://www.forbes.com/sites/theapothecary/2016/09/27/health-insurance-premiums-have-continued-to-rise-faster-than-worker-wages-under-obamacare/

http://www.breitbart.com/big-government/2015/05/25/obamacare-insurance-premiums-to-jump-up-to-51/

http://thehill.com/policy/healthcare/214847-average-premium-under-obamacare-to-rise-75-percent

http://hotair.com/archives/2015/06/03/cnn-get-ready-for-steep-obamacare-hikes-to-premiums-in-2016/

http://azdailysun.com/news/local/hhs-arizona-premiums-under-obamacare-almost-tripled-since/article_ab0df107-4b31-52fb-b7be-bfa21c86a99a.html

quote:

...premiums have tripled in the last three years.


http://www.slate.com/articles/business/the_bills/2015/07/health_care_premiums_going_up_obamacare_has_been_solidified_but_it_s_failed.html

http://www.cnsnews.com/news/article/family-premiums-1975-obamacare-passed-obama-touts-100-rebates

quote:

Family Premiums Up $1,975 Since Obamacare Passed


https://americansforprosperity.org/re-obamacare-lies-lets-make-obamacares-last-birthday/

quote:

Millions of families have seen their premiums increase by double-digits every year since the law passed


what the troll also leaves out:

http://www.cnbc.com/2016/10/26/obamacare-deductibles-are-on-the-rise-for-2017-along-with-monthly-premiums.html

https://gop.com/under-obamacare-premiums-and-deductibles-are-rising/

https://www.forbes.com/sites/michaelcannon/2015/11/17/these-are-obamacares-high-deductibles-not-the-markets/

quote:

Obamacare manages to pair high deductibles with higher premiums, to deny many Americans one of the main benefits of high-deductible plans


http://www.cbsnews.com/news/obamacare-deductibles-deliver-hefty-sticker-shock/

quote:

The Affordable Care Act is turning out to be less than affordable for some consumers. That’s because many of the plans carry huge deductibles...


http://www.investors.com/politics/obamacare/obamacare-deductibles-more-shocking-2017/

quote:

The backlash over ObamaCare deductibles will only intensify as customers shopping for 2017 plans a year from now face bronze-plan deductibles as high as $7,150


lastly:

quote:

Health insurance premiums grew on average 10 percent annually in the three years before ObamaCare went into effect according to a new study. Critics of the Affordable Care Act have warned premiums will soar under the rules and regulations of the law.


http://thehill.com/policy/healthcare/208357-report-health-premiums-grew-by-double-digits-before-obamacare

quote:

Health insurance premiums have risen more after Obamacare than the average premium increases over the eight years before it became law


http://dailycaller.com/2014/03/18/report-premiums-rising-faster-than-eight-years-before-obamacare-combined/

like either one of you will look at any of these...




Nnanji -> RE: HANDEL WINS (6/21/2017 4:35:33 PM)


quote:

ORIGINAL: bounty44

quote:

ORIGINAL: WickedsDesire

I dont understand that.

It suddenly went mental from 1980 onward % GDP wise

Your graph is telling, for America, its actual (premium increases) went down substantially under handsome Obama - am I reading this right?


never mind that Obama promised premiums would go DOWN, sorry, mnottertroll is the last person you want to believe about anything that requires academic integrity (the first being his information is three years old and only touches on one aspect of the market and insurance coverage), especially as concerns the failings of the left:

http://abcnews.go.com/Health/health-care-premiums-rising-obamacare/story?id=43047190

http://www.cbsnews.com/news/study-insurance-costs-to-soar-under-obamacare/

https://www.forbes.com/sites/theapothecary/2016/09/27/health-insurance-premiums-have-continued-to-rise-faster-than-worker-wages-under-obamacare/

http://www.breitbart.com/big-government/2015/05/25/obamacare-insurance-premiums-to-jump-up-to-51/

http://thehill.com/policy/healthcare/214847-average-premium-under-obamacare-to-rise-75-percent

http://hotair.com/archives/2015/06/03/cnn-get-ready-for-steep-obamacare-hikes-to-premiums-in-2016/

http://azdailysun.com/news/local/hhs-arizona-premiums-under-obamacare-almost-tripled-since/article_ab0df107-4b31-52fb-b7be-bfa21c86a99a.html

quote:

...premiums have tripled in the last three years.


http://www.slate.com/articles/business/the_bills/2015/07/health_care_premiums_going_up_obamacare_has_been_solidified_but_it_s_failed.html

http://www.cnsnews.com/news/article/family-premiums-1975-obamacare-passed-obama-touts-100-rebates

quote:

Family Premiums Up $1,975 Since Obamacare Passed


https://americansforprosperity.org/re-obamacare-lies-lets-make-obamacares-last-birthday/

quote:

Millions of families have seen their premiums increase by double-digits every year since the law passed


what the troll also leaves out:

http://www.cnbc.com/2016/10/26/obamacare-deductibles-are-on-the-rise-for-2017-along-with-monthly-premiums.html

https://gop.com/under-obamacare-premiums-and-deductibles-are-rising/

https://www.forbes.com/sites/michaelcannon/2015/11/17/these-are-obamacares-high-deductibles-not-the-markets/

quote:

Obamacare manages to pair high deductibles with higher premiums, to deny many Americans one of the main benefits of high-deductible plans


http://www.cbsnews.com/news/obamacare-deductibles-deliver-hefty-sticker-shock/

quote:

The Affordable Care Act is turning out to be less than affordable for some consumers. That’s because many of the plans carry huge deductibles...


http://www.investors.com/politics/obamacare/obamacare-deductibles-more-shocking-2017/

quote:

The backlash over ObamaCare deductibles will only intensify as customers shopping for 2017 plans a year from now face bronze-plan deductibles as high as $7,150



like either one of you will look at any of these...


It's almost like the mental patient thinks we're as stupid as he is whenever he googles.




mnottertail -> RE: HANDEL WINS (6/21/2017 4:49:07 PM)


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ORIGINAL: bounty44

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mnottertail -> RE: HANDEL WINS (6/21/2017 4:58:04 PM)

Oh yeah, and sorry nancy, you can plug yourself with your kotex again. I see you are factlessly felchgobbling as usual. BLS AND Kairser has different numbers, and there is nowhere else to get them from and hope for any coincidence with fact

Now Kaiser became a force because of a dirty deal by Tricky Dicky, so even felchgobbling numbers have you wrong in fact. Nutsucker slobberblogs pointing to this datum and that datum and saying what this means by nutsucker opine retards.. aint fact.




BoscoX -> RE: HANDEL WINS (6/21/2017 5:49:36 PM)


FR

Pelosi faces growing doubts among Dems after Georgia loss

There's a lot of grumbling by rank-and-file members, but no leadership change is imminent.


House Minority Leader Nancy Pelosi and other top Democrats put a brave face on Wednesday morning after a disappointing loss in the Georgia special election, yet there is no disguising the unhappiness in the party ranks.

There is no challenge to Pelosi’s leadership, and none is going to happen at this point, said numerous Democrats. But it’s clear frustration is growing with the longtime Democratic leader following the extensive losses Democrats have suffered over the past half-decade.


And the fact that Republicans spent millions of dollars on TV ads tying Democratic hopeful Jon Ossoff to Pelosi — and the brand of progressive policies she represents — shows that she will once again be an issue for Democratic challengers in the very districts that the party needs to win to make her speaker again.

Some Democrats want to replace Pelosi atop their caucus, as they have since last November’s poor showing at the polls; they say there is no way to get back in the majority with her as their leader. And others who backed her in last year’s leadership challenge have now flipped their stance.

“I think you’d have to be an idiot to think we could win the House with Pelosi at the top,” said Rep. Filemon Vela (D-Texas), who supported Pelosi in her last leadership race. “Nancy Pelosi is not the only reason that Ossoff lost. But she certainly is one of the reasons.”...

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Musicmystery -> RE: HANDEL WINS (6/21/2017 7:24:32 PM)


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ORIGINAL: BoscoX


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ORIGINAL: servantforuse

And such a fine bill it was. Affordable Care ? Not so much.


Only ObamaCare insurer in most Iowa counties to hike premiums by 43.5 percent

Sure. Once they actually had to include decent coverage in their "insurance," it started costing what health insurance costs everywhere else.




Nnanji -> RE: HANDEL WINS (6/21/2017 7:39:02 PM)


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ORIGINAL: mnottertail

Oh yeah, and sorry nancy, you can plug yourself with your kotex again. I see you are factlessly felchgobbling as usual. BLS AND Kairser has different numbers, and there is nowhere else to get them from and hope for any coincidence with fact

Now Kaiser became a force because of a dirty deal by Tricky Dicky, so even felchgobbling numbers have you wrong in fact. Nutsucker slobberblogs pointing to this datum and that datum and saying what this means by nutsucker opine retards.. aint fact.

You see, there you are. One voice in your head urges you to use a Kotex so you think that's all there is. You should really take your medication mental patient.




Nnanji -> RE: HANDEL WINS (6/21/2017 7:41:10 PM)


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ORIGINAL: Musicmystery


quote:

ORIGINAL: BoscoX


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ORIGINAL: servantforuse

And such a fine bill it was. Affordable Care ? Not so much.


Only ObamaCare insurer in most Iowa counties to hike premiums by 43.5 percent

Sure. Once they actually had to include decent coverage in their "insurance," it started costing what health insurance costs everywhere else.

But...but...but single payer is so cheap. Say it ain't so that it's really much more costly when you factor in all costs including rationing. Oh...oh...oh...what am I to believe now?




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