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RE: Celebrating Ramadan - 6/22/2017 6:35:52 AM   
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Status: offline 		In a sense you are correct Greta! What a surprise! But in what sense are you correct?

Well a lot of Muslims who aren't members of IS are engaged in politically directed violence at the moment. Most of these Muslims are in places like Syria and Iraq - fighting IS. Most of the multi-national coalition of dozens of nations fighting IS are Muslim countries. Almost all of the front-line troops fighting IS are Muslims. And these Muslims enjoy the support of almost all of the rest of the Muslim world, The goal of these violent Muslims is the total destruction of IS, and they are succeeding in accomplishing this goal.

So in this sense and that sense only you are correct to say that IS aren't the only violent Muslims around.

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RE: Celebrating Ramadan - 6/22/2017 8:01:52 AM   
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In a sense you are correct Greta! What a surprise! But in what sense are you correct?

Well a lot of Muslims who aren't members of IS are engaged in politically directed violence at the moment. Most of these Muslims are in places like Syria and Iraq - fighting IS. Most of the multi-national coalition of dozens of nations fighting IS are Muslim countries. Almost all of the front-line troops fighting IS are Muslims. And these Muslims enjoy the support of almost all of the rest of the Muslim world, The goal of these violent Muslims is the total destruction of IS, and they are succeeding in accomplishing this goal.

So in this sense and that sense only you are correct to say that IS aren't the only violent Muslims around.

What crap. Not only are you juvenile, you're an intellectual fraud as well.

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RE: Celebrating Ramadan - 6/22/2017 8:23:02 AM   
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Muslim Opinion Polls: A Tiny Minority of Extremists?

Make up your mind.
You said earlier that it WAS a tiny minority and now you backpedal.



I did not, you are a moron.

Alt-leftists believe that only a tiny portion of muslims are bad guys.
You believe that AND that the Saudis are actually our allies.

Gee. Someone sures a lot like a fine upstanding member of the alt left don't you?

Leftist

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RE: Celebrating Ramadan - 6/22/2017 8:26:33 AM   
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Muslim Opinion Polls: A Tiny Minority of Extremists?

Make up your mind.
You said earlier that it WAS a tiny minority and now you backpedal.



I did not, you are a moron.

Alt-leftists believe that only a tiny portion of muslims are bad guys.
You believe that AND that the Saudis are actually our allies.

Gee. Someone sures a lot like a fine upstanding member of the alt left don't you?

Leftist


You're a drooler, making pathetic straw man arguments

Well, except you are so stupid that you are unaware that the Saudis ARE our allies...

Must be an alt left radical. For the most part that's the very best form of debate they can ever manage

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RE: Celebrating Ramadan - 6/22/2017 8:51:27 AM   
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World Trade Center (1973�2001) and for the record that lot did not give a fuk what national/religion they killed.

Iran are our eneimies
Iran Air Flight 655 and thanks for lockerbie you Americanshire jackals

Did i get that right boscox am I good troll and will you pat me on the head and say good doggy

Anyway on a more serious note I still wonder if you, boscox the vacant, are:
1. A troll
2. Missing one complete brain
3. Brain washed by your own stupidity and those sites that pipe raw effluent into your empty cranial cavity

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RE: Celebrating Ramadan - 6/22/2017 8:53:34 AM   
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US chose Saudi because Saudi is richer. It's as simple as that. If you are choosing between two evils, then you choose the evil where you can suckle more money out of them.

Alot of political relations are bullshit front. I mean the fact that Saudi can give the Malaysian PM a personal gift of 700million dollars, just like that.

US could use an ally who likes to throw away money just like that to help with their debt.

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RE: Celebrating Ramadan - 6/22/2017 8:55:13 AM   
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RE: Celebrating Ramadan - 6/22/2017 9:00:49 AM   
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In a sense you are correct Greta! What a surprise! But in what sense are you correct?

Well a lot of Muslims who aren't members of IS are engaged in politically directed violence at the moment. Most of these Muslims are in places like Syria and Iraq - fighting IS. Most of the multi-national coalition of dozens of nations fighting IS are Muslim countries. Almost all of the front-line troops fighting IS are Muslims. And these Muslims enjoy the support of almost all of the rest of the Muslim world, The goal of these violent Muslims is the total destruction of IS, and they are succeeding in accomplishing this goal.

So in this sense and that sense only you are correct to say that IS aren't the only violent Muslims around.

What crap. Not only are you juvenile, you're an intellectual fraud as well.

What a sad case you are!

You don't like that I posted some facts that challenge the line being pushed by our resident looney Right Islamophobes. And unable to challenge any of the facts in my post (because they are all true), you resort to name calling. And then you have the nerve to call me "juvenile" when you are acting like the proverbial 5 year old who has had his marbles confiscated by his mother.

What a petulant childish moron you are. Instead of dishing out abuse, try working at your intellectual pretensions a bit harder and one of these days you might find you have elevated yourself to be Bosco's intellectual equal. I know that's quite a way above where you are at currently but you never know - you might just have that in you ... and wouldn't it be suuuuccchhhh an accomplishment for you!

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RE: Celebrating Ramadan - 6/22/2017 9:03:28 AM   
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In a sense you are correct Greta! What a surprise! But in what sense are you correct?

Well a lot of Muslims who aren't members of IS are engaged in politically directed violence at the moment. Most of these Muslims are in places like Syria and Iraq - fighting IS. Most of the multi-national coalition of dozens of nations fighting IS are Muslim countries. Almost all of the front-line troops fighting IS are Muslims. And these Muslims enjoy the support of almost all of the rest of the Muslim world, The goal of these violent Muslims is the total destruction of IS, and they are succeeding in accomplishing this goal.

So in this sense and that sense only you are correct to say that IS aren't the only violent Muslims around.


Feel free to believe that most of the fundings donated to Mosques world wide are not directed towards ISIS. ISIS didn't become this successful if they weren't well funded.

I mean if you were to start a world wide terrorist organization with cells all over the world, how would you get the funds? Think about it.

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RE: Celebrating Ramadan - 6/22/2017 9:08:54 AM   
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Muslim Opinion Polls: A Tiny Minority of Extremists?

Make up your mind.
You said earlier that it WAS a tiny minority and now you backpedal.



I did not, you are a moron.

Alt-leftists believe that only a tiny portion of muslims are bad guys.
You believe that AND that the Saudis are actually our allies.

Gee. Someone sures a lot like a fine upstanding member of the alt left don't you?

Leftist


You're a drooler, making pathetic straw man arguments

Well, except you are so stupid that you are unaware that the Saudis ARE our allies...

Must be an alt left radical. For the most part that's the very best form of debate they can ever manage

I'm the one who calls the whole bunch fucking savages.
Leftists say that only a few of them are bad guys and the people that killed thousands of our citizens are allies.

Leftist.
It ain't a strawman if you SAID IT.

leftist

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RE: Celebrating Ramadan - 6/22/2017 9:20:40 AM   
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In a sense you are correct Greta! What a surprise! But in what sense are you correct?

Well a lot of Muslims who aren't members of IS are engaged in politically directed violence at the moment. Most of these Muslims are in places like Syria and Iraq - fighting IS. Most of the multi-national coalition of dozens of nations fighting IS are Muslim countries. Almost all of the front-line troops fighting IS are Muslims. And these Muslims enjoy the support of almost all of the rest of the Muslim world, The goal of these violent Muslims is the total destruction of IS, and they are succeeding in accomplishing this goal.

So in this sense and that sense only you are correct to say that IS aren't the only violent Muslims around.


Feel free to believe that most of the fundings donated to Mosques world wide are not directed towards ISIS. ISIS didn't become this successful if they weren't well funded.

I mean if you were to start a world wide terrorist organization with cells all over the world, how would you get the funds? Think about it.

Greta you may recall that, when IS took over Mosul in Iraq, they gained access to a mountain of money in the Iraqi Reserve Bank there. There were reports of up to $500,000,000 there that fell into IS's hands. There were also multiple reports of the Qatari and Saudi Govts financing and arming IS too, though they have both ceased this practice. IS also obtained funds through trading in oil and antiquities through Turkey though this avenue of funding is now closed too.

I don't doubt that IS receives some funding from individuals in Saudi and the Gulf countries but to assert that "most of the fundings donated to Mosques world wide ... are directed to IS" is a wild and unsubstantiated claim. If you have any evidence to support this claim, please post it.

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RE: Celebrating Ramadan - 6/22/2017 9:38:23 AM   
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US chose Saudi because Saudi is richer. It's as simple as that. If you are choosing between two evils, then you choose the evil where you can suckle more money out of them.

Close but no cigar: the US made both rich, but Iran's oil exports have been less lucrative since they deposed the Shah back in '79 for a variety of reasons. They had a steady market selling to the soviet union until that fell apart around the turn of the '90s (amusingly, exactly what the Shah was reinstated to prevent Mossadeq doing back in the '50s), but the profits from this were pissed away on the war with Iraq for most of the '80s, and the lunatic theocrats running the country rabidly opposed foreign investment (unlike the Saudis, who'd take as much foreign investment as they could).
That said, the Iranians are quite happily selling oil to almost everybody else but the Americans (I think China and India both buy a lot from them), and have more untapped reserves than the Saudis at this point due to the fact that Khomeni was too busy wiping out a generation of his countrymen and demanding the death of an overrated novelist to extract much of the stuff for a decade and a half. They were the second biggest oil exporter in OPEC under the Shah, and are like to become again as soon as they settle down a bit politically. (There's even some cynics who've suggested that Iran was added to the Haliburton Axis of Evil in order to encourage people to buy oil from America's pals in Saudi Arabia instead.)

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RE: Celebrating Ramadan - 6/22/2017 9:52:19 AM   
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In a sense you are correct Greta! What a surprise! But in what sense are you correct?

Well a lot of Muslims who aren't members of IS are engaged in politically directed violence at the moment. Most of these Muslims are in places like Syria and Iraq - fighting IS. Most of the multi-national coalition of dozens of nations fighting IS are Muslim countries. Almost all of the front-line troops fighting IS are Muslims. And these Muslims enjoy the support of almost all of the rest of the Muslim world, The goal of these violent Muslims is the total destruction of IS, and they are succeeding in accomplishing this goal.

So in this sense and that sense only you are correct to say that IS aren't the only violent Muslims around.


Feel free to believe that most of the fundings donated to Mosques world wide are not directed towards ISIS. ISIS didn't become this successful if they weren't well funded.

I mean if you were to start a world wide terrorist organization with cells all over the world, how would you get the funds? Think about it.

They sold megatons of petroleum on the black market.
It's quite well documented.

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RE: Celebrating Ramadan - 6/22/2017 10:48:13 AM   
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Muslim Opinion Polls: A Tiny Minority of Extremists?

Make up your mind.
You said earlier that it WAS a tiny minority and now you backpedal.



I did not, you are a moron.

Alt-leftists believe that only a tiny portion of muslims are bad guys.
You believe that AND that the Saudis are actually our allies.

Gee. Someone sures a lot like a fine upstanding member of the alt left don't you?

Leftist


You're a drooler, making pathetic straw man arguments

Well, except you are so stupid that you are unaware that the Saudis ARE our allies...

Must be an alt left radical. For the most part that's the very best form of debate they can ever manage

I'm the one who calls the whole bunch fucking savages.
Leftists say that only a few of them are bad guys and the people that killed thousands of our citizens are allies.

Leftist.
It ain't a strawman if you SAID IT.

leftist


I didn't say it, drooler

How thick do you have to be to not understand such a simple point as that, even after it is pointed out to you

Turds in a barrel

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RE: Celebrating Ramadan - 6/22/2017 12:35:48 PM   
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I didn't say it, drooler

How thick do you have to be to not understand such a simple point as that, even after it is pointed out to you

Turds in a barrel

You didn't say this "While the vast majority of Muslims consider the occasion as the best time in the year to pray for blessings and forgiveness" in your OP?


Lyin-assed Saudi lovin leftist

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RE: Celebrating Ramadan - 6/22/2017 12:42:14 PM   
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I didn't say it, drooler

How thick do you have to be to not understand such a simple point as that, even after it is pointed out to you

Turds in a barrel

You didn't say this "While the vast majority of Muslims consider the occasion as the best time in the year to pray for blessings and forgiveness" in your OP?


Lyin-assed Saudi lovin leftist


Nope, I didn't say that, dumb ass

I quoted an article, idiot. It's only the same thing in your almost cartoonish reality

Doesn't mean I believe everything in it either. But then I may, but that's up to me, not you

I never posted that I love the Saudis either, that is also only in your cartoonish delusions

Nor am I a leftist

You are literally insane

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RE: Celebrating Ramadan - 6/22/2017 2:47:38 PM   
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I didn't say it, drooler

How thick do you have to be to not understand such a simple point as that, even after it is pointed out to you

Turds in a barrel

You didn't say this "While the vast majority of Muslims consider the occasion as the best time in the year to pray for blessings and forgiveness" in your OP?


Lyin-assed Saudi lovin leftist


Nope, I didn't say that, dumb ass

I quoted an article, idiot. It's only the same thing in your almost cartoonish reality

Doesn't mean I believe everything in it either. But then I may, but that's up to me, not you

I never posted that I love the Saudis either, that is also only in your cartoonish delusions

Nor am I a leftist

You are literally insane

What it means is that you posted something because it appeared to support your view without reading it....as usual.

Like Vlad Dracul's brother.

Keep it up Comrade Traitorous Leftist Lying Saudi lover. You'll have more names than a Kardashian.

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RE: Celebrating Ramadan - 6/22/2017 3:36:17 PM   
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I didn't say it, drooler

How thick do you have to be to not understand such a simple point as that, even after it is pointed out to you

Turds in a barrel

You didn't say this "While the vast majority of Muslims consider the occasion as the best time in the year to pray for blessings and forgiveness" in your OP?


Lyin-assed Saudi lovin leftist


Nope, I didn't say that, dumb ass

I quoted an article, idiot. It's only the same thing in your almost cartoonish reality

Doesn't mean I believe everything in it either. But then I may, but that's up to me, not you

I never posted that I love the Saudis either, that is also only in your cartoonish delusions

Nor am I a leftist

You are literally insane

What it means is that you posted something because it appeared to support your view without reading it....as usual.

Like Vlad Dracul's brother.

Keep it up Comrade Traitorous Leftist Lying Saudi lover. You'll have more names than a Kardashian.


If you want to know what I believe, and you are sane, ask me.

If you are insane, you don't need to ask... Do you.

Could be most Muslims want a peaceful Ramadan. The article said so, probably just a wild guess on their part

You are extremely unhinged, telling me what I believe though. I read that line, it was inconsequential to the point I was making unless you are an insane troll who has to obsess over literally nothing

We could have discussed the line reasonably like adults if you ween't insane, but you have to pretend you found something incriminating or whatever




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RE: Celebrating Ramadan - 6/22/2017 3:44:33 PM   
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In a sense you are correct Greta! What a surprise! But in what sense are you correct?

Well a lot of Muslims who aren't members of IS are engaged in politically directed violence at the moment. Most of these Muslims are in places like Syria and Iraq - fighting IS. Most of the multi-national coalition of dozens of nations fighting IS are Muslim countries. Almost all of the front-line troops fighting IS are Muslims. And these Muslims enjoy the support of almost all of the rest of the Muslim world, The goal of these violent Muslims is the total destruction of IS, and they are succeeding in accomplishing this goal.

So in this sense and that sense only you are correct to say that IS aren't the only violent Muslims around.

What crap. Not only are you juvenile, you're an intellectual fraud as well.

What a sad case you are!

You don't like that I posted some facts that challenge the line being pushed by our resident looney Right Islamophobes. And unable to challenge any of the facts in my post (because they are all true), you resort to name calling. And then you have the nerve to call me "juvenile" when you are acting like the proverbial 5 year old who has had his marbles confiscated by his mother.

What a petulant childish moron you are. Instead of dishing out abuse, try working at your intellectual pretensions a bit harder and one of these days you might find you have elevated yourself to be Bosco's intellectual equal. I know that's quite a way above where you are at currently but you never know - you might just have that in you ... and wouldn't it be suuuuccchhhh an accomplishment for you!

Don't forget to stomp your pretty little foot.

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RE: Celebrating Ramadan - 6/22/2017 4:43:19 PM   
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If you want to know what I believe, and you are sane, ask me.

If you are insane, you don't need to ask... Do you.

Could be most Muslims want a peaceful Ramadan. The article said so, probably just a wild guess on their part

You are extremely unhinged, telling me what I believe though. I read that line, it was inconsequential to the point I was making unless you are an insane troll who has to obsess over literally nothing

We could have discussed the line reasonably like adults if you ween't insane, but you have to pretend you found something incriminating or whatever




You're the one who posts things that disagree with yourself and swear that you didn't even though it is in writing.

Talk about insane.

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