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Greta this list of demands approaches the comical.

It is a gross breach of sovereignty to demand another country revise its diplomatic connections, close down its media, and demand that it align its foreign policy with other States just to mention a few of the demands. If there was any basis in fact for the terrorist allegations the US wouldn't have sold Qatar $15 billion worth of warplanes last week would they?

The list looks like it has been hastily compiled with little thought given to its implications - it's the kind of 'diplomacy' one might see coming from a complete novice like Trump. The UK's Foreign Secretary Johnson poured scorn on it. The real underlying agenda appears to be intimidating Qatar into subservience to Saudi Arabia's domination, and ending its independent foreign policy. It seems the Saudi theocrats think they can run inter-State relations like they run their internal absolute monarchy. They also appear to think that they are in a position to dominate the region and enforce their will on all other States there.

It wouldn't surprise me to hear the Saudis invade Qatar and seize its gas and other resources in the near future.

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Greta this list of demands approaches the comical.

It is a gross breach of sovereignty to demand another country revise its diplomatic connections, close down its media, and demand that it align its foreign policy with other States just to mention a few of the demands. If there was any basis in fact for the terrorist allegations the US wouldn't have sold Qatar $15 billion worth of warplanes last week would they?

The list looks like it has been hastily compiled with little thought given to its implications - it's the kind of 'diplomacy' one might see coming from a complete novice like Trump. The UK's Foreign Secretary Johnson poured scorn on it. The real underlying agenda appears to be intimidating Qatar into subservience to Saudi Arabia's domination, and ending its independent foreign policy. It seems the Saudi theocrats think they can run inter-State relations like they run their internal absolute monarchy. They also appear to think that they are in a position to dominate the region and enforce their will on all other States there.

It wouldn't surprise me to hear the Saudis invade Qatar and seize its gas and other resources in the near future.

Once again you know nothing yet say a lot. The UAE Ambassador to the U.S. Yesterday. He aid all of the demands the Saudis made were actually previously agreed to in a private agreement between several nations, including UAE. Qatar acknowledged funding terrorism in the private agreement as well. Saudi is only asking Qatar to fulfill what had been a private agreement that Qatar signed.

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Greta this list of demands approaches the comical.

It is a gross breach of sovereignty to demand another country revise its diplomatic connections, close down its media, and demand that it align its foreign policy with other States just to mention a few of the demands. If there was any basis in fact for the terrorist allegations the US wouldn't have sold Qatar $15 billion worth of warplanes last week would they?

The list looks like it has been hastily compiled with little thought given to its implications - it's the kind of 'diplomacy' one might see coming from a complete novice like Trump. The UK's Foreign Secretary Johnson poured scorn on it. The real underlying agenda appears to be intimidating Qatar into subservience to Saudi Arabia's domination, and ending its independent foreign policy. It seems the Saudi theocrats think they can run inter-State relations like they run their internal absolute monarchy. They also appear to think that they are in a position to dominate the region and enforce their will on all other States there.

It wouldn't surprise me to hear the Saudis invade Qatar and seize its gas and other resources in the near future.

Once again you know nothing yet say a lot. The UAE Ambassador to the U.S. Yesterday. He aid all of the demands the Saudis made were actually previously agreed to in a private agreement between several nations, including UAE. Qatar acknowledged funding terrorism in the private agreement as well. Saudi is only asking Qatar to fulfill what had been a private agreement that Qatar signed.

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Can you provide a link to confirm your claims. It would be nice to see the evidence directly. I find the UAE Ambassador's claims to be rather iffy - it's rare for a nation to voluntarily cede sovereignty in this manner.

So, a credibly independent link would be appreciated. Of course nothing from the echo chamber (eg. InfoWars Breitbart etc) is either independent or credible.

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So you are either unable or unwilling to provide a verifiable link .... and therefore your claims are unverifiable. I had a sneaking suspicion that would turn out to be the case.

If and when you claims are verified I will look at them more seriously. Until then, they just remain your claims and let's face it, you don't have a track record of posting the truth, the whole truth and nothing but the truth ...

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Al Otaiba: So to point out some context, three years ago, we had a meeting in Riyadh under the leadership of King Abdullah of Saudi Arabia. In that meeting we had a confrontation essentially… and the leadership of Qatar, Emir Tamim [bin Hamad Al Thani], signed a document that pledged that he will stop and refrain from doing all the things that we've been complaining about.

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Greta this list of demands approaches the comical.

It is a gross breach of sovereignty to demand another country revise its diplomatic connections, close down its media, and demand that it align its foreign policy with other States just to mention a few of the demands. If there was any basis in fact for the terrorist allegations the US wouldn't have sold Qatar $15 billion worth of warplanes last week would they?

The list looks like it has been hastily compiled with little thought given to its implications - it's the kind of 'diplomacy' one might see coming from a complete novice like Trump. The UK's Foreign Secretary Johnson poured scorn on it. The real underlying agenda appears to be intimidating Qatar into subservience to Saudi Arabia's domination, and ending its independent foreign policy. It seems the Saudi theocrats think they can run inter-State relations like they run their internal absolute monarchy. They also appear to think that they are in a position to dominate the region and enforce their will on all other States there.

It wouldn't surprise me to hear the Saudis invade Qatar and seize its gas and other resources in the near future.

Once again you know nothing yet say a lot. The UAE Ambassador to the U.S. Yesterday. He aid all of the demands the Saudis made were actually previously agreed to in a private agreement between several nations, including UAE. Qatar acknowledged funding terrorism in the private agreement as well. Saudi is only asking Qatar to fulfill what had been a private agreement that Qatar signed.

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Greta this list of demands approaches the comical.

It is a gross breach of sovereignty to demand another country revise its diplomatic connections, close down its media, and demand that it align its foreign policy with other States just to mention a few of the demands. If there was any basis in fact for the terrorist allegations the US wouldn't have sold Qatar $15 billion worth of warplanes last week would they?

The list looks like it has been hastily compiled with little thought given to its implications - it's the kind of 'diplomacy' one might see coming from a complete novice like Trump. The UK's Foreign Secretary Johnson poured scorn on it. The real underlying agenda appears to be intimidating Qatar into subservience to Saudi Arabia's domination, and ending its independent foreign policy. It seems the Saudi theocrats think they can run inter-State relations like they run their internal absolute monarchy. They also appear to think that they are in a position to dominate the region and enforce their will on all other States there.

It wouldn't surprise me to hear the Saudis invade Qatar and seize its gas and other resources in the near future.

Once again you know nothing yet say a lot. The UAE Ambassador to the U.S. Yesterday. He aid all of the demands the Saudis made were actually previously agreed to in a private agreement between several nations, including UAE. Qatar acknowledged funding terrorism in the private agreement as well. Saudi is only asking Qatar to fulfill what had been a private agreement that Qatar signed.

So there is a document hidden somewhere in arabia with the signature of Qatar's emir or prime minister, that UAE and Saudi Arabia don't want to make pubblic to not shame their neighbour but the ambassador from UAE (whose leaked email exposed a plan to smear Qatar) talks about it on american media invalidating the reason Arabia and UAE don't produce it and notwithstanding Qatar was on bord with the same deal for some misterious reson are now willing to start a war over that.
Makes sense.

link to the video: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iKL5YKkZKGE

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Thank you for providing the link. I watched the interview, along the with Fox report. It is pretty obvious why you were so reluctant to provide it ....

Basically we have a claim by one of the interested parties -the UAE - of an alleged secret agreement dating back to 3 years ago . The agreement has not been made public and according to the Ambassador there is no intention of making it public. He was vague about the actual contents of the alleged agreement stating that the Qataris "pledged that [they] will stop and refrain from doing all the things that we've been complaining about." You are free to swallow hook line and sinker the unsubstantiated propaganda claims of one interested party to the dispute if you like. To me it seems prudent to refrain from judgement unless and until the alleged agreement is publicly circulated. At that point, and not until then, we will know that an agreement actually exists and this is not merely a propaganda ploy.

Further in the Fox report (at 3.10), a US State Dept spokesperson Heather Noward states that the US was "mystified" by the failure by the Saudi/GCC side to put the details of their complaints about Qatar out in public and wondered out loud if the dispute was really about supporting terrorism or the long standing disputes between the various Gulf States. Fox described Noward's statement as "extraordinary". I can only share her sense of mystification and also, like her, wonder what the real motive behind the Saudi and GCC actions is. That is more or less the substance of my first post (post #2).

It seems that far from being wrong about anything, as you so idiotically claim, the skepticism I voiced in my original post is shared in full by the US State Dept.

Thanks for playing sweetie.