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Was Russian interference Political crime of the Century?


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Was Russian interference Political crime of the Century? - 6/23/2017 12:20:21 PM   
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In political terms, Russias interference was the crime of the century. It was a case that took almost no time to solve and was traced to Russian President Vladimir Putin.

In July, the FBI had opened an investigation of contacts between Russian officials and Trump associates. And on July 22, nearly 20,000 emails stolen from the Democratic National Committee were dumped online by WikiLeaks

It took time for other parts of the intelligence community to endorse the CIA’s view. Only in the administration’s final weeks in office did it tell the public, in a declassified report, what officials had learned from Brennan in August — that Putin was working to elect Trump.

The post-election period has been dominated by the overlapping investigations into whether Trump associates colluded with Russia before the election and whether the president sought to obstruct the FBI probe afterward. That spectacle has obscured the magnitude of Moscow’s attempt to hijack a precious and now vulnerable-seeming American democratic process.

Beset by allegations of hidden ties between his campaign and Russia, Trump has shown no inclination to revisit the matter and has denied any collusion or obstruction on his part.

“Russia violated our sovereignty, meddling in one of our most sacred acts as a democracy — electing our president.

The intelligence on Putin was extraordinary on multiple levels, including as a feat of espionage.

Concerns about Russian interference had gathered throughout the summer.

Russia experts had begun to see a troubling pattern of propaganda in which fictitious news stories, assumed to be generated by Moscow, proliferated across social-media platforms.

Meanwhile, the FBI was tracking a flurry of hacking activity against U.S. political parties, think tanks and other targets. Russia had gained entry to DNC systems in the summer of 2015 and spring of 2016, but the breaches did not become public until they were disclosed in a June 2016 report by The Post.

Obama’s approach often seemed reducible to a single imperative: Don’t make things worse. As brazen as the Russian attacks on the election seemed, Obama and his top advisers feared that things could get far worse.

They were concerned that any pre-election response could provoke an escalation from Putin. Moscow’s meddling to that point was seen as deeply concerning but unlikely to materially affect the outcome of the election. Far more worrisome to the Obama team was the prospect of a cyber-assault on voting systems before and on Election Day.

They also worried that any action they took would be perceived as political interference in an already volatile campaign. By August, Trump was predicting that the election would be rigged. Obama officials feared providing fuel to such claims, playing into Russia’s efforts to discredit the outcome and potentially contaminating the expected Clinton triumph.

“The Dems were, ‘Hey, we have to tell the public,’ ” recalled one participant. But Republicans resisted, arguing that to warn the public that the election was under attack would further Russia’s aim of sapping confidence in the system.

Senate Majority Leader Mitch McConnell (R-Ky.) went further, officials said, voicing skepticism that the underlying intelligence truly supported the White House’s claims. Through a spokeswoman, McConnell declined to comment, citing the secrecy of that meeting.

Key Democrats were stunned by the GOP response and exasperated that the White House seemed willing to let Republican opposition block any pre-election move.

Early drafts accused Putin by name, but the reference was removed out of concern that it might endanger intelligence sources and methods.

The statement was issued around 3:30 p.m., timed for maximum media coverage. Instead, it was quickly drowned out. At 4 p.m., The Post published a story about crude comments Trump had made about women that were captured on an “Access Hollywood” tape. Half an hour later, WikiLeaks published its first batch of emails stolen from Clinton campaign chairman John Podesta.

The White House also worried that they had not yet seen the worst of Russia’s campaign. WikiLeaks and DCLeaks, a website set up in June 2016 by hackers believed to be Russian operatives, already had troves of emails. But U.S. officials feared that Russia had more explosive material or was willing to fabricate it.

Suddenly, Obama faced a successor who had praised WikiLeaks and prodded Moscow to steal even more Clinton emails, while dismissing the idea that Russia was any more responsible for the election assault than “somebody sitting on their bed that weighs 400 pounds.”

By then, the still-forming Trump administration was becoming entangled by questions about contacts with Moscow. On or around that same day that Obama imposed sanctions, Trump’s designated national security adviser, retired Lt. Gen. Michael Flynn, told the Russian ambassador by phone that the sanctions would soon be revisited. Flynn’s false statements about that conversation later cost him his job.

The above are just a few extracts from the full article


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RE: Was Russian interference Political crime of the Cen... - 6/23/2017 12:21:56 PM   
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Of the century? We're only 16 and a half years in.

Certainly not of the 20th century. Or the 19th. Or the 18th.

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RE: Was Russian interference Political crime of the Cen... - 6/23/2017 12:24:00 PM   
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The century is yet young and the best is yet to come...

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RE: Was Russian interference Political crime of the Cen... - 6/23/2017 12:38:39 PM   
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Right I am off to sit in bed for a bit but by a curious happenstance i was reading this and this today

Russia probe led by Mueller is 'ridiculous' says Trump
The Russia probe led by Robert Mueller is staffed by Clinton supporters, making it "ridiculous", says President Trump.

Trump's love-hate relationship with Comey
As a candidate and president, his views on the FBI boss have varied dramatically, over an eventful year.

Trump casts doubt on Russia investigator Mueller

And really really watch this clip 'Lizard, liar, leaker' - Trump fans on Comey


Trump's love-hate relationship with Comey
As a candidate and president, his views on the FBI boss have varied dramatically, over an eventful year.

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RE: Was Russian interference Political crime of the Cen... - 6/23/2017 1:18:05 PM   
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Of the century? We're only 16 and a half years in.

Certainly not of the 20th century. Or the 19th. Or the 18th.

Just wait until you see what happens to Netanyahu's corpse in 2029.
But you didn't hear that from me, okay?

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RE: Was Russian interference Political crime of the Cen... - 6/23/2017 1:28:10 PM   
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The leftist media is hyping that false narrative, certainly. To hear them tell it, no nation has ever tried to interfere in another nation's internal dealings before this and everyone needs to keep hysterically panicking

Bernie Sanders and Hollywood, some Obama people and others are urging violence so... The real scandal is the left's growing push for increasing violence simply because they lost an election

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RE: Was Russian interference Political crime of the Cen... - 6/23/2017 1:30:37 PM   
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Soros pays triple for crippling grandmothers. It's a sweet gig.

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RE: Was Russian interference Political crime of the Cen... - 6/23/2017 1:32:34 PM   
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Soros pays triple for crippling grandmothers. It's a sweet gig.

The best part is that he never checks: if some old bat in a silly cap is already a cripple, you can just rabbit punch her in the kidney and claim that you broke her kneecaps.

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RE: Was Russian interference Political crime of the Cen... - 6/25/2017 11:54:44 AM   
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And yet there the Orange shitsiren is wailing on his twitter, this very cold windy day..do you have goosebumps, i do, or are yours more festering orange cock boils pustulating?

Mwahhhh Handsome Obama and the Russians

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RE: Was Russian interference Political crime of the Cen... - 6/25/2017 2:21:07 PM   
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This discussion suggests another poll, actually: was intefering (possibly) in the 2016 election more or less offensive on a political level than poisoning litvenko with Polonium and crashing his solicitor's helicopter, invading the Ukraine, throwing an uwe boll style tantrum about the Russian entry getting booed at Eurovision, bombing Syria, asset stripping the Soviet Union's corpse and hiding the money outside of the country, running a denial of service attack on the NHS and shutting down several hospital trusts or picking a fight with Turkey? PutinRussia has arguably done far worse this century than hacking an election.

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RE: Was Russian interference Political crime of the Cen... - 6/26/2017 2:38:20 AM   
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Climate change denial is probably the worst political crime in the history of human civilization.
The Russia thing isn't even as bad as Iran-Contra or the Iraq war.


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RE: Was Russian interference Political crime of the Cen... - 6/26/2017 4:30:58 AM   
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Climate change denial is probably the worst political crime in the history of human civilization.
The Russia thing isn't even as bad as Iran-Contra or the Iraq war.



The climate change thing is more about politicians sucking up to corporate interests than a political issue in itself, though. I'd have thought that comes under the whole "people last, business first" corporatism thing along with most other destructive behaviours that have only really been politicised as a weapon to attack one side or the other with.

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RE: Was Russian interference Political crime of the Cen... - 6/26/2017 8:36:01 AM   
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Climate change denial is probably the worst political crime in the history of human civilization.
The Russia thing isn't even as bad as Iran-Contra or the Iraq war.



The climate change thing is more about politicians sucking up to corporate interests than a political issue in itself, though. I'd have thought that comes under the whole "people last, business first" corporatism thing along with most other destructive behaviours that have only really been politicised as a weapon to attack one side or the other with.


The climate change hoax is about alt left radicals grabbing as much power as possible through emotional pleas to save the planet from a process that has been happening ever since the planet was first formed



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RE: Was Russian interference Political crime of the Cen... - 6/26/2017 8:41:39 AM   
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https://www.nasa.gov/content/goddard/2015-arctic-sea-ice-maximum-annual-extent-is-lowest-on-record
https://www.nasa.gov/feature/goddard/2016/2016-arctic-sea-ice-wintertime-extent-hits-another-record-low

Oh, sorry felchgobbler gobbles, looks like you are cockgargling your typical factless felchgobble of putinjizz fake news from anonymous nutsucker sourches.

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RE: Was Russian interference Political crime of the Cen... - 6/26/2017 9:04:50 AM   
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Century could easily refer to the last 100 years or so.

The statement was issued around 3:30 p.m., timed for maximum media coverage. Instead, it was quickly drowned out. At 4 p.m., The Post published a story about crude comments Trump had made about women that were captured on an “Access Hollywood” tape. Half an hour later, WikiLeaks published its first batch of emails stolen from Clinton campaign chairman John Podesta.

That bit should concern everyone and the timing of the events.
The Russians already knew the Americans knew and they had 2 back up plans in place, as they already had the emails and the trump pussy snatcher recording.

Sanctions bit hard at the Russians, so their stratagems grew more and more desperate and brazen whoremods. They sought, and succeeded in putting their preferred candidate in office - this is the most powerful nation on earth who value its democracy and freedom and holds them up to the rest of the world as a shinning beacon. Russia and America have been installing their puppets for the last 100 years or so. The Polonium incident was one of two and both served as a warning to all...was it polonium they used via the umbrella or something I cant quite remember.




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