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RE: Dems push leaders to talk less about Russia - 6/24/2017 5:18:04 PM   
bounty44


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RE: Dems push leaders to talk less about Russia - 6/24/2017 6:34:30 PM   
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I'm fed up with both major parties.

Let's find out what did or didn't happen, then run on actual platforms instead of speculative gamesmanship.

Okay, concur.

Agreed

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RE: Dems push leaders to talk less about Russia - 6/24/2017 6:37:09 PM   
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~FR~

I'm fed up with both major parties.

Let's find out what did or didn't happen, then run on actual platforms instead of speculative gamesmanship.

Okay, concur.

Agreed


That's why we got Trump. What were the choices - another Bush, another Clinton - or how about someone who is completely different

And both parties fought the choice of the little people

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RE: Dems push leaders to talk less about Russia - 6/24/2017 8:09:14 PM   
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The Dems need to ditch that fuckwit Pelosi.



Except she brings in the money at fundraising time.

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RE: Dems push leaders to talk less about Russia - 6/25/2017 1:47:41 AM   
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I'm fed up with both major parties.

Let's find out what did or didn't happen, then run on actual platforms instead of speculative gamesmanship.


Anyone who watched the debates would have realized that Hillary DID have an actual platform.
No matter what they say in order to look like grownups, people don't actually care about that shit.

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RE: Dems push leaders to talk less about Russia - 6/25/2017 1:55:19 AM   
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In a startling about turn, even by Trump's own unique standards, the orange disaster has gone from haughtily dismissing allegations of Russian interference in US elections to blaming it on Obama!

In a tweet today, Trump claimed:
"Since the Obama Administration was told way before the 2016 election that the Russians were meddling, why no action? Focus on them not T!"
http://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-40395433

Previously Trump had denigrated claims of Russian interference in the US elections as a "hoax" and "fake news". Now, it seems that the alleged "hoax" was real, and that news Trump has repeatedly insisted was "fake" is in fact true! Not only is it true, but, incredibly, it's somehow Obama's fault for not taking enough action against the Russian interference!!!

I was under the impression that it was considered bad form for a sitting US President to criticise their predecessors. But Trump has turned bad form into a lifestyle.

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RE: Dems push leaders to talk less about Russia - 6/25/2017 4:31:29 AM   
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Status: offline 		To be fair, monkeyboy was already claiming that the allegations about Russia were an excuse for Obama to illegally snoop on him before he was even sworn in: he's just changed his mind to the extent that foreign tampering with a US election must have been done on behalf of the people it didn't benefit, rather than those it did, which is no more absurd than a lot of what he comes out with.

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RE: Dems push leaders to talk less about Russia - 6/25/2017 5:04:35 AM   
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RE: Dems push leaders to talk less about Russia - 6/25/2017 6:20:27 AM   
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~FR~

I'm fed up with both major parties.

Let's find out what did or didn't happen, then run on actual platforms instead of speculative gamesmanship.


Anyone who watched the debates would have realized that Hillary DID have an actual platform.
No matter what they say in order to look like grownups, people don't actually care about that shit.

And she should have run on it, not (1) I'm a woman and (2) I'm not Trump.

And in the primaries, not (1) I'm a woman and (2) it's my turn, so it's not fair Sanders is running.

If she had won, we'd be neck deep in war by now. More Bush than Obama (who was still Bush Lite). It was about the DNC's oligarchy, following the same poor path Romney's oligarchy tried.

In any event, I'm not talking about the past in what you quoted -- I'm talking about the next elections in 2018 and 2020. It's all games. What are the platforms of either party?

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RE: Dems push leaders to talk less about Russia - 6/25/2017 7:31:20 AM   
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In a startling about turn, even by Trump's own unique standards, the orange disaster has gone from haughtily dismissing allegations of Russian interference in US elections to blaming it on Obama!

In a tweet today, Trump claimed:
"Since the Obama Administration was told way before the 2016 election that the Russians were meddling, why no action? Focus on them not T!"
http://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-40395433

Previously Trump had denigrated claims of Russian interference in the US elections as a "hoax" and "fake news". Now, it seems that the alleged "hoax" was real, and that news Trump has repeatedly insisted was "fake" is in fact true! Not only is it true, but, incredibly, it's somehow Obama's fault for not taking enough action against the Russian interference!!!

I was under the impression that it was considered bad form for a sitting US President to criticise their predecessors. But Trump has turned bad form into a lifestyle.

That a girl! Pretend outrage because your frontal lobe hasn't developed enough to understand nuances. Represent your side baby!

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RE: Dems push leaders to talk less about Russia - 6/25/2017 8:38:32 AM   
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In a startling about turn, even by Trump's own unique standards, the orange disaster has gone from haughtily dismissing allegations of Russian interference in US elections to blaming it on Obama!

In a tweet today, Trump claimed:
"Since the Obama Administration was told way before the 2016 election that the Russians were meddling, why no action? Focus on them not T!"
http://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-40395433

Previously Trump had denigrated claims of Russian interference in the US elections as a "hoax" and "fake news". Now, it seems that the alleged "hoax" was real, and that news Trump has repeatedly insisted was "fake" is in fact true! Not only is it true, but, incredibly, it's somehow Obama's fault for not taking enough action against the Russian interference!!!

I was under the impression that it was considered bad form for a sitting US President to criticise their predecessors. But Trump has turned bad form into a lifestyle.


The president has said all along that:

quote:

Trump Says 'I Think It Was Russia' That Hacked the Democrats - The ...
https://www.nytimes.com/2017/01/11/us/politics/donald-trump-press-conference.html
Jan 11, 2017 -


What he rightly calls a hoax is the media propaganda circus and howlers like you pretending that he had anything to do with it

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RE: Dems push leaders to talk less about Russia - 6/25/2017 8:52:25 AM   
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Does Trump lie? Trump's lies the full list


What about this one, your Orange Shitpeel treason weasel been screaming the last day about the Russians and Handsome Obama and is now kecking his pants.
Trump accuses Obama of inaction over Russia meddling claim Russia

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RE: Dems push leaders to talk less about Russia - 6/25/2017 9:25:51 AM   
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RE: Dems push leaders to talk less about Russia - 6/25/2017 9:30:56 AM   
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Trump doesn't know what he thinks day to day until FOX News tells him.


Unlike Obama, who relied on Iranian mullahs for his marching orders

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RE: Dems push leaders to talk less about Russia - 6/25/2017 9:39:15 AM   
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Trump doesn't know what he thinks day to day until FOX News tells him.


Unlike Obama, who relied on Iranian mullahs for his marching orders

I'm sure you have a credible citation to prove that allegation.

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RE: Dems push leaders to talk less about Russia - 6/25/2017 9:42:01 AM   
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ORIGINAL: BoscoX

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ORIGINAL: tweakabelle

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In a startling about turn, even by Trump's own unique standards, the orange disaster has gone from haughtily dismissing allegations of Russian interference in US elections to blaming it on Obama!

In a tweet today, Trump claimed:
"Since the Obama Administration was told way before the 2016 election that the Russians were meddling, why no action? Focus on them not T!"
http://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-40395433

Previously Trump had denigrated claims of Russian interference in the US elections as a "hoax" and "fake news". Now, it seems that the alleged "hoax" was real, and that news Trump has repeatedly insisted was "fake" is in fact true! Not only is it true, but, incredibly, it's somehow Obama's fault for not taking enough action against the Russian interference!!!

I was under the impression that it was considered bad form for a sitting US President to criticise their predecessors. But Trump has turned bad form into a lifestyle.


The president has said all along that:

quote:

Trump Says 'I Think It Was Russia' That Hacked the Democrats - The ...
https://www.nytimes.com/2017/01/11/us/politics/donald-trump-press-conference.html
Jan 11, 2017 -


What he rightly calls a hoax is the media propaganda circus and howlers like you pretending that he had anything to do with it

In its fact checker section, the Washington Post has published a complete list of Trump's claims about the Russian interference titled: "Every Russia story Trump said was a hoax by Democrats: A timeline"
https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/fact-checker/wp/2017/06/01/every-russia-story-trump-said-was-a-hoax-by-democrats-a-timeline/

Here's a typical denial in a tweet by Trump:
Totally made up facts by sleazebag political operatives, both Democrats and Republicans - FAKE NEWS! Russia says nothing exists. Probably...
10:11 PM - 13 Jan 2017

or this:

"Russia talk is FAKE NEWS put out by the Dems, and played up by the media, in order to mask the big election defeat and the illegal leaks!
10:16 AM - 26 Feb 2017"

Please note the bits where he specifically alleges "fake news", in capitals, twice, just in case you missed it. There's lots more like this at the WaPo link above.

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RE: Dems push leaders to talk less about Russia - 6/25/2017 9:42:17 AM   
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RE: Dems push leaders to talk less about Russia - 6/25/2017 10:04:35 AM   
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ORIGINAL: tweakabelle

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ORIGINAL: BoscoX

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ORIGINAL: tweakabelle

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In a startling about turn, even by Trump's own unique standards, the orange disaster has gone from haughtily dismissing allegations of Russian interference in US elections to blaming it on Obama!

In a tweet today, Trump claimed:
"Since the Obama Administration was told way before the 2016 election that the Russians were meddling, why no action? Focus on them not T!"
http://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-40395433

Previously Trump had denigrated claims of Russian interference in the US elections as a "hoax" and "fake news". Now, it seems that the alleged "hoax" was real, and that news Trump has repeatedly insisted was "fake" is in fact true! Not only is it true, but, incredibly, it's somehow Obama's fault for not taking enough action against the Russian interference!!!

I was under the impression that it was considered bad form for a sitting US President to criticise their predecessors. But Trump has turned bad form into a lifestyle.


The president has said all along that:

quote:

Trump Says 'I Think It Was Russia' That Hacked the Democrats - The ...
https://www.nytimes.com/2017/01/11/us/politics/donald-trump-press-conference.html
Jan 11, 2017 -


What he rightly calls a hoax is the media propaganda circus and howlers like you pretending that he had anything to do with it

In its fact checker section, the Washington Post has published a complete list of Trump's claims about the Russian interference titled: "Every Russia story Trump said was a hoax by Democrats: A timeline"
https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/fact-checker/wp/2017/06/01/every-russia-story-trump-said-was-a-hoax-by-democrats-a-timeline/

Here's a typical denial in a tweet by Trump:
Totally made up facts by sleazebag political operatives, both Democrats and Republicans - FAKE NEWS! Russia says nothing exists. Probably...
10:11 PM - 13 Jan 2017

or this:

"Russia talk is FAKE NEWS put out by the Dems, and played up by the media, in order to mask the big election defeat and the illegal leaks!
10:16 AM - 26 Feb 2017"

Please note the bits where he specifically alleges "fake news", in capitals, twice, just in case you missed it. There's lots more like this at the WaPo link above.


Again, the president is right when he calls the Russia propaganda hysteria a hoax.

EXAMPLE -

quote:

CNN deletes, retracts story linking Trump and Russia - Philly.com
www.philly.com/.../cnn-deletes-retracts-story-linking-trump-and-russia-20170624.ht...
7 hours ago - On Thursday evening, CNN investigative reporter Thomas Frank published a potentially explosive report involving an investigation of a Russian investment fund with potential ties to several associates of President Donald Trump. ... But by Friday night, the story was removed from ...


What he is discussing is the leftist hysteria clown circus accusing him of being a Russian agent blah blah blah

Even if one of his tweets was about Russia denying it, so what. Means very little unless you are already completely hysterical


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RE: Dems push leaders to talk less about Russia - 6/25/2017 10:05:37 AM   
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He gets worse every day. Long past the point of utter ridiculousness. It used to be a little annoying. Now it's just incessantly entertaining -- never know what silliness comes next.


Time and again we see that in any given "debate" practically all leftists have are personal attacks, or other debate fallacies.


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RE: Dems push leaders to talk less about Russia - 6/25/2017 10:06:40 AM   
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Trump doesn't know what he thinks day to day until FOX News tells him.


will be looking forward to all the evidence that supports that contention.

just who is "fox news" by the way??

according to the comrades, its this monolithic right wing propaganda machine in bed with republicans and who take marching orders from on high---as opposed to a collection of people who come from a variety of social/political persuasions.

on the whole does the network espouse a right leaning view, yes. are they often openly critical of the left, also yes.

but do they fail to have opposing viewpoints presented, no.

and in case you didn't get this from what ive already written---there are indeed people on fox as regulars, and as guests, who are in disagreement with the president.

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