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BoscoX -> RE: Canada Has Immigration Laws Too (9/27/2017 5:42:11 AM)

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ORIGINAL: Lucylastic

waaaaaaaaaah poor infantile racists looking for something else to distract everyone from their sad ignorance.

It doesnt change your racism in any respect.
Only you can stop your racism.



You shouldn't talk about Canada and Mexico that way, hag




Lucylastic -> RE: Canada Has Immigration Laws Too (9/27/2017 5:44:07 AM)

yeah everyone knows who Im talking about, may be you need remedial help, or a groaner adjustment.




ThatDizzyChick -> RE: Canada Has Immigration Laws Too (9/27/2017 8:02:26 AM)

FR
Borders are immoral.




Made2Obey -> RE: Canada Has Immigration Laws Too (9/27/2017 8:38:06 AM)


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ORIGINAL: ThatDizzyChick

FR
Borders are immoral.


You'll come to feel differently about that when Vancouver has more television stations broadcasting in Spanish than in English.
Or when you use an ATM and the first thing you have to do is push a button to select either English or Spanish.
Or when you are sitting in a public place and realize you can't understand any of what you overhear around you.
Or when you arrive at a factory to do business and they have to send for the guy who speaks English.




BoscoX -> RE: Canada Has Immigration Laws Too (9/27/2017 8:39:23 AM)


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ORIGINAL: Lucylastic

yeah everyone knows who Im talking about, may be you need remedial help, or a groaner adjustment.


Whatever hag

Everyone knows what I mean too




ThatDizzyChick -> RE: Canada Has Immigration Laws Too (9/27/2017 8:44:23 AM)

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You'll come to feel differently about that when Vancouver has more television stations broadcasting in Spanish than in English.

Why would I give a fuck?
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Or when you use an ATM and the first thing you have to do is push a button to select either English or Spanish.

I already have to choose between English and French, so what difference would a third option make
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Or when you are sitting in a public place and realize you can't understand any of what you overhear around you.

Happened all the time in Toronto, and in fact that is one of the things I miss about living in the city.
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Or when you arrive at a factory to do business and they have to send for the guy who speaks English.

Already happens, it's no big deal. What is the problem?

And what does any of that mindless bullshit have to do with the morality of borders? Why do you equate Spanish with foreign?




Baldrick -> RE: Canada Has Immigration Laws Too (9/27/2017 8:52:31 AM)

Vancouver has more people that speak Chinese than English I think...




MrRodgers -> RE: Canada Has Immigration Laws Too (9/27/2017 3:30:43 PM)

Well now we go from fake news to fake posts. Another strawman to make nothing but partisan cheap shots.

The repubs are whores and claim for themselves the title if not actually the role as captain and protectors of our borders [sic] and feel down deep, that if the 'dissenters' wish to go to Canada, let them, they are all losers, takers, traitors, communists, criminals and fascists....everyone of them.

This is obviously not about people Canada is kicking out but taking in. Here you are more likely to get kicked out, especially if you are a person of color.




MrRodgers -> RE: Canada Has Immigration Laws Too (9/27/2017 3:41:32 PM)


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ORIGINAL: bounty44

again, trying to talk with liberals is mind numbing.

the point is not whether or not Canada has and enforces immigration laws.

its that primarily whenever immigration laws are enforced or discussed in America, white republicans are "racist."

the implication being---since Canada is assumingly doing something similar to what America could be/should be/has proposed doing, its really not a matter of raaaaaaaaaacism. its just a simple matter of protecting the country and enforcing the law.

or put another way, why is it raaaaaaaaaaaaaacism in America but not in Canada?

and sorry---no townhall---maybe next time.

See, justifying an OP that in its entirety reads ' Canada Has Immigration Laws Too' while the US govt. is going after people of color, and banning people from nations of color who [they] choose also would not thereby...enjoy freedom of religion here.

So yes, the repubs are racists a good number of which voted in this child poster boy for racist, insecure narcissism.





BamaD -> RE: Canada Has Immigration Laws Too (9/27/2017 5:54:51 PM)


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ORIGINAL: MrRodgers

Well now we go from fake news to fake posts. Another strawman to make nothing but partisan cheap shots.

The repubs are whores and claim for themselves the title if not actually the role as captain and protectors of our borders [sic] and feel down deep, that if the 'dissenters' wish to go to Canada, let them, they are all losers, takers, traitors, communists, criminals and fascists....everyone of them.

This is obviously not about people Canada is kicking out but taking in. Here you are more likely to get kicked out, especially if you are a person of color.

We have far more illegals, particularly persons of color.




MercTech -> RE: Canada Has Immigration Laws Too (9/27/2017 9:48:45 PM)

Canadian immigration is oddly interesting.

It takes 30-90 days to process an initial work visa good for one year.

If you want to work longer in Canada and want to renew before the year is up, it takes 6-9 months, depending on work load. It is a totally different office in a completely different province that processes renewals than initial applications. If you leave the country, such as flying home to the U.S. for a holiday, between the expiration of your initial Visa and granting an extension; you will not be allowed back into Canada and your Visa renewal application will be terminated.

If you are working on a Visa in Ontario; you start paying into Ontario Health the first day of work. To draw benefits, as a resident alien, you have to have paid in for at least six months and have Permanent Resident status. It can take up to three years to get permanent resident status. Most Canadians don't realize how difficult it is to get health care in Canada if you are working on a Visa. Now large cities located at border crossings supposedly have a lot of private practice clinics. But, if you are working away from a city; you are mostly just out of luck. You can always run up an extremely high bill patronizing a hospital emergency room as that might be your only option while there. Oh ,Yes, if employing a Yank you are required to carry insurance on them while they work in Canada. But, unless there is a private practice clinic where they are working; no health care other then emergency care is available.

Such are the vagaries of working in Canada on a Visa. Better than before NAFTA as back then, if you wanted to send a tech to Canada you had to do an expensive search to prove there was no one in Canada who had the skills to do the job that wasn't working.

Heaven forbid you wanted to fly someone in to teach a class on a new machine your company was selling. That wasn't allowed at all back in the 90s. So, instead of flying in one instructor for a two day class; thirty Canadian techs had to be cycled through three classes in Florida. Crazy expensive.

Don't get me wrong. I loved the time I spent working in Canada. But Canadian Government has their own brand of bureaucratic insanity and it is a different flavor from the insanity infecting U.S. government.




Lucylastic -> RE: Canada Has Immigration Laws Too (9/27/2017 9:57:22 PM)

I emigrated 30 years ago, it took(for multiple reasons) a lot longer than three years to get my PR status. But I had Ohip more or less straight away.
Its harder now, and wildly more expensive, and I have no idea as to how it works for work visas.





MercTech -> RE: Canada Has Immigration Laws Too (9/27/2017 10:04:04 PM)

Working in a truly multicultural shop was interesting. I'm talking REALLY multicultural and not the faux crap ideas out of liberal arts schools.

I'm from the U.S. and got to be a foreman on a project.
My immediate supervision was ex Canadian Army and with my Navy background we had some very similar ideas on how work and manpower is best organized.
Our senior engineer was very British. The junior engineer had a pronounced Tamil accent with a stutter. Had to train the ear to interpret that one.
Working under my direction was a Pakistani and an Ukrainian. You have to be careful about colloquialisms and jargon with those whose first language is not English.
A very multi cultural group with all actually trying to figure out what the Canadian Way was and if it differed from what we were accustomed to.

Things noted as "mental speed bumps" while in Canada.
Milk in plastic bags. One size of soda at the fast food. No sticks of butter, you had to cut a pound brick to fit the butter dish yourself. Six grades of cream in the dairy case. Country style sausage doesn't exist (sausage patties instead of links). Chicken in the grocery doesn't have a diaper. Coffee is more flavorful. Chocolate has less sugar. Beer has more flavor and a touch higher alcohol content.




ThatDizzyChick -> RE: Canada Has Immigration Laws Too (9/27/2017 10:19:58 PM)

Good for them, I fail to see the relevance of that to anything. Who gives a fuck what language somebody speaks?




BoscoX -> RE: Canada Has Immigration Laws Too (9/28/2017 6:17:58 AM)


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ORIGINAL: MrRodgers

Well now we go from fake news to fake posts. Another strawman to make nothing but partisan cheap shots.

The repubs are whores and claim for themselves the title if not actually the role as captain and protectors of our borders [sic] and feel down deep, that if the 'dissenters' wish to go to Canada, let them, they are all losers, takers, traitors, communists, criminals and fascists....everyone of them.

This is obviously not about people Canada is kicking out but taking in. Here you are more likely to get kicked out, especially if you are a person of color.


Do you really believe the illegal immigrants that Canada and Mexico are addressing with their own "racist" laws are as lily white as Crazy Lucy's great white north?




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