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kdsub -> RE: Flynn Investigation Was FBI Retribution? (6/27/2017 7:46:49 AM)

What does this have to do with lying under oath?

Butch




BoscoX -> RE: Flynn Investigation Was FBI Retribution? (6/27/2017 7:47:07 AM)


quote:

ORIGINAL: Musicmystery

Well, I did. It's well-reported that Flynn requested immunity.

I'm sorry you find sharing facts "trolling," but if that's the case, you're going to see a LOT of "trolling."




So... Now that we're not talking about Lynch, any testimony, anything at all, if proof not only of criminal activity, but also proof of guilt

SOP for a troll like you who cannot be intellectually honest




heavyblinker -> RE: Flynn Investigation Was FBI Retribution? (6/27/2017 7:49:15 AM)


quote:

ORIGINAL: Nnanji


quote:

ORIGINAL: heavyblinker

Retribution for a totally inconsequential, unheard-of event in 2015 that had no long-lasting effects on anyone involved?

I'm sure the RWNJs are happy to have anything that will make them think that the Russia investigation is either fake or a massive conspiracy, but this is really desperate.
And there's probably also a good reason I've never heard of circa.com before today, right?

That's one of the most idiotic things I've seen you write and it could only be patrician spew. Better check with your mom, she'll probably tell you that the woman's discrimination case wasn't inconsequential and to be a good boy.


I often feel the urge to say the same to you, except everything you write is equally idiotic.
I googled her name and before the RWNJ media glommed onto it as an ideal distraction there was ONE story-- ONE.

http://www.npr.org/2015/04/15/399853577/former-fbi-agent-speaks-out-i-was-not-protected

quote:

Gritz says the FBI drummed her out of a job. All because of allegations about fraud on her time card that she says just didn't happen. The FBI also blamed her for not attending a 7:15 a.m. meeting and sending an unprofessional email to an ex-boyfriend.


So it's a one-sided he said/she said story that barely registered at the time, the outcome of which favored the horrible male oppressors before completely disappearing altogether... and McCabe is so angry about it that he's going to risk making it into international news all because he wants to destroy someone who stuck up for her.
That just makes so much more sense than the notion that Flynn is sketchy as fuck.




Musicmystery -> RE: Flynn Investigation Was FBI Retribution? (6/27/2017 7:49:23 AM)

That's quite a world you've got going in your head.

I said:
- Flynn requested immunity

The rest is you.

I then added:
- that I'm not impuning motives to his request, and that yours is certainly one possibility
- that Congress engages in a lot of theater when it wants to appear to be doing something

The rest is all in your head.

Sounds like a noisy place.




Musicmystery -> RE: Flynn Investigation Was FBI Retribution? (6/27/2017 7:51:04 AM)


quote:

ORIGINAL: BoscoX


quote:

ORIGINAL: Musicmystery

Well, I did. It's well-reported that Flynn requested immunity.

I'm sorry you find sharing facts "trolling," but if that's the case, you're going to see a LOT of "trolling."




So... Now that we're not talking about Lynch, any testimony, anything at all, if proof not only of criminal activity, but also proof of guilt

SOP for a troll like you who cannot be intellectually honest

All stuff you invented -- you know, straw man?

I said simply that he requested immunity. From there, you started harvesting straw.

And previously, I noted that you have a double standard about testimony depending on the R or D attached, and that you're going to hurt your neck spinning so abruptly in the political winds.




Nnanji -> RE: Flynn Investigation Was FBI Retribution? (6/27/2017 7:58:44 AM)

quote:

ORIGINAL: Musicmystery

That's quite a world you've got going in your head.

I said:
- Flynn requested immunity

The rest is you.

I then added:
- that I'm not impuning motives to his request, and that yours is certainly one possibility
- that Congress engages in a lot of theater when it wants to appear to be doing something

The rest is all in your head.

Sounds like a noisy place.

I just re-read your post and I don't see the "that I'm not inpuning motives to his request, and that yours is certainly one possibility". Would you please tell me the number of the post in which you said that?




Nnanji -> RE: Flynn Investigation Was FBI Retribution? (6/27/2017 8:00:52 AM)


quote:

ORIGINAL: heavyblinker


quote:

ORIGINAL: Nnanji


quote:

ORIGINAL: heavyblinker

Retribution for a totally inconsequential, unheard-of event in 2015 that had no long-lasting effects on anyone involved?

I'm sure the RWNJs are happy to have anything that will make them think that the Russia investigation is either fake or a massive conspiracy, but this is really desperate.
And there's probably also a good reason I've never heard of circa.com before today, right?

That's one of the most idiotic things I've seen you write and it could only be patrician spew. Better check with your mom, she'll probably tell you that the woman's discrimination case wasn't inconsequential and to be a good boy.


I often feel the urge to say the same to you, except everything you write is equally idiotic.
I googled her name and before the RWNJ media glommed onto it as an ideal distraction there was ONE story-- ONE.

http://www.npr.org/2015/04/15/399853577/former-fbi-agent-speaks-out-i-was-not-protected

quote:

Gritz says the FBI drummed her out of a job. All because of allegations about fraud on her time card that she says just didn't happen. The FBI also blamed her for not attending a 7:15 a.m. meeting and sending an unprofessional email to an ex-boyfriend.


So it's a one-sided he said/she said story that barely registered at the time, the outcome of which favored the horrible male oppressors before completely disappearing altogether... and McCabe is so angry about it that he's going to risk making it into international news all because he wants to destroy someone who stuck up for her.
That just makes so much more sense than the notion that Flynn is sketchy as fuck.


Oh sweetie, you didn't talk to your mom did you?




BoscoX -> RE: Flynn Investigation Was FBI Retribution? (6/27/2017 8:07:42 AM)


quote:

ORIGINAL: Musicmystery

I said simply that he requested immunity. From there, you started harvesting straw.



I said there was no crime

You offered that as "proof" that there was a crime

Now that it blew up in your face you bluster and troll, because you are an idiot




Musicmystery -> RE: Flynn Investigation Was FBI Retribution? (6/27/2017 8:30:27 AM)

Since you missed it the first time . . .

(or pretending it didn't exist . . .)

quote:

ORIGINAL: Musicmystery


quote:

ORIGINAL: BoscoX


quote:

ORIGINAL: Musicmystery

Well, I did. It's well-reported that Flynn requested immunity.

I'm sorry you find sharing facts "trolling," but if that's the case, you're going to see a LOT of "trolling."




So... Now that we're not talking about Lynch, any testimony, anything at all, if proof not only of criminal activity, but also proof of guilt

SOP for a troll like you who cannot be intellectually honest

All stuff you invented -- you know, straw man?

I said simply that he requested immunity. From there, you started harvesting straw.

And previously, I noted that you have a double standard about testimony depending on the R or D attached, and that you're going to hurt your neck spinning so abruptly in the political winds.





BoscoX -> RE: Flynn Investigation Was FBI Retribution? (6/27/2017 8:47:23 AM)


quote:

ORIGINAL: Musicmystery

Since you missed it the first time . . .

(or pretending it didn't exist . . .)

quote:

ORIGINAL: Musicmystery


quote:

ORIGINAL: BoscoX


quote:

ORIGINAL: Musicmystery

Well, I did. It's well-reported that Flynn requested immunity.

I'm sorry you find sharing facts "trolling," but if that's the case, you're going to see a LOT of "trolling."




So... Now that we're not talking about Lynch, any testimony, anything at all, if proof not only of criminal activity, but also proof of guilt

SOP for a troll like you who cannot be intellectually honest

All stuff you invented -- you know, straw man?

I said simply that he requested immunity. From there, you started harvesting straw.

And previously, I noted that you have a double standard about testimony depending on the R or D attached, and that you're going to hurt your neck spinning so abruptly in the political winds.




And now you double down on moron, as I never wrote that Lynch is guilty or that there was a crime. I wrote that she is under investigation

Just like I wrote that there is no crime in the Flynn case

The hypocrisy (as always) is all on you




Lucylastic -> RE: Flynn Investigation Was FBI Retribution? (6/27/2017 8:57:45 AM)

yet.




Musicmystery -> RE: Flynn Investigation Was FBI Retribution? (6/27/2017 9:18:50 AM)

Even FOX News gets that Flynn flaunted the law:
http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2017/04/26/lawmakers-suggest-former-trump-aide-flynn-broke-us-law.html

Even the GOP Congress gets it:
http://thehill.com/policy/national-security/330424-flynn-may-have-broken-law-say-oversight-leaders






Lucylastic -> RE: Flynn Investigation Was FBI Retribution? (6/27/2017 9:25:28 AM)


from June 2nd Atlantic article https://www.theatlantic.com/politics/archive/2017/06/mueller-michael-flynn-turkey/529011/

Reuters reported Friday that Mueller will now oversee an ongoing federal grand-jury investigation in eastern Virginia into Flynn’s relationship with Turkish businessman Ekim Alpetkin. According to Reuters, Alpetkin’s company Inovo paid Flynn’s lobbying firm $530,000 during the fall of 2016 to research and film a documentary about exiled Turkish cleric Fethullah Gulen, a political foe of Turkish President Recep Tayyip Erdogan who lives in Pennsylvania.

Taking over the investigation would give Mueller broad authority over its direction and outcome. The Turkish-lobbying probe is believed to be the most advanced of the inquiries looking into President Trump’s inner circle. Federal prosecutors conducting the investigation reportedly empaneled a grand jury some time after the president’s inauguration in January and have issued subpoenas targeting Flynn’s business records and those held by his associates.


Overseeing the investigation could also give Mueller a valuable bargaining chip with Flynn in the broader federal probe into Russian interference in the 2016 presidential election. Flynn, a retired lieutenant general, was one of Trump’s closest aides during the presidential campaign, culminating in his brief tenure as national-security adviser. That proximity to the president placed him at key moments of interest to investigators. One of them is an early December meeting with Jared Kushner, the president’s son-in-law, and Russian ambassador Sergey Kislyak in which Kushner reportedly asked Kislyak about using Russian diplomatic facilities to communicate with Moscow.

If the Turkish-lobbying investigation advances far enough to bring criminal charges, Mueller could use the threat of prosecution as leverage to persuade Flynn to testify against others. Flynn himself has raised the possibility of cutting a deal with investigators: In March, he requested immunity from the FBI and Congress in exchange for his testimony. Flynn’s lawyer cryptically said at the time that his client “certainly has a story to tell.” (Neither Congress nor the FBI has granted his request so far.)

Mueller’s investigation is separate from the congressional inquiries into Russian interference and the Trump campaign. The Senate Intelligence Committee also focused its attention on Flynn in recent weeks, issuing a rare subpoena last month for Russia-related documents in his possession. Flynn initially refused to comply, invoking his Fifth Amendment right against compelled testimony that could be used to prosecute him. The committee then subpoenaed his businesses instead to bypass the Fifth Amendment.
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no crime, no charges, yet..........will he sing for that to remain fact?




Lucylastic -> RE: Flynn Investigation Was FBI Retribution? (6/27/2017 9:26:36 AM)

not russian collusion , but turkish? the thot plickens,
its getting deeper than swamp level..
BTW where is the outrage from trump knowing about russian interference?




Musicmystery -> RE: Flynn Investigation Was FBI Retribution? (6/27/2017 9:28:03 AM)


quote:

ORIGINAL: BoscoX


quote:

ORIGINAL: Musicmystery

Well, I did. It's well-reported that Flynn requested immunity.

I'm sorry you find sharing facts "trolling," but if that's the case, you're going to see a LOT of "trolling."




So... Now that we're not talking about Lynch, any testimony, anything at all, if proof not only of criminal activity, but also proof of guilt

SOP for a troll like you who cannot be intellectually honest

News Flash -- Thread Title is . . .

RE: Flynn Investigation Was FBI Retribution?




BoscoX -> RE: Flynn Investigation Was FBI Retribution? (6/27/2017 9:31:56 AM)

quote:

ORIGINAL: Lucylastic

not russian collusion , but turkish? the thot plickens,
its getting deeper than swamp level..
BTW where is the outrage from trump knowing about russian interference?


Name the crime? "Collusion" isn't a crime. Everyone colludes. You simply bought into the mindless hysteria

Where was Obama's outrage, about "Russian interference" at the time Hillary was inevitable

He knew and did nothing because it was a non-issue until Democrats needed an excuse for losing their collective asses, and means to undermine the elected government

It also became an issue because Obama needed cover for his illegally spying on the Trump campaign




BoscoX -> RE: Flynn Investigation Was FBI Retribution? (6/27/2017 9:36:05 AM)


quote:

ORIGINAL: Lucylastic


from June 2nd Atlantic article https://www.theatlantic.com/politics/archive/2017/06/mueller-michael-flynn-turkey/529011/

Reuters reported Friday that Mueller will now oversee an ongoing federal grand-jury investigation in eastern Virginia into Flynn’s relationship with Turkish businessman Ekim Alpetkin. According to Reuters, Alpetkin’s company Inovo paid Flynn’s lobbying firm $530,000 during the fall of 2016 to research and film a documentary about exiled Turkish cleric Fethullah Gulen, a political foe of Turkish President Recep Tayyip Erdogan who lives in Pennsylvania.

Taking over the investigation would give Mueller broad authority over its direction and outcome. The Turkish-lobbying probe is believed to be the most advanced of the inquiries looking into President Trump’s inner circle. Federal prosecutors conducting the investigation reportedly empaneled a grand jury some time after the president’s inauguration in January and have issued subpoenas targeting Flynn’s business records and those held by his associates.


Overseeing the investigation could also give Mueller a valuable bargaining chip with Flynn in the broader federal probe into Russian interference in the 2016 presidential election. Flynn, a retired lieutenant general, was one of Trump’s closest aides during the presidential campaign, culminating in his brief tenure as national-security adviser. That proximity to the president placed him at key moments of interest to investigators. One of them is an early December meeting with Jared Kushner, the president’s son-in-law, and Russian ambassador Sergey Kislyak in which Kushner reportedly asked Kislyak about using Russian diplomatic facilities to communicate with Moscow.

If the Turkish-lobbying investigation advances far enough to bring criminal charges, Mueller could use the threat of prosecution as leverage to persuade Flynn to testify against others. Flynn himself has raised the possibility of cutting a deal with investigators: In March, he requested immunity from the FBI and Congress in exchange for his testimony. Flynn’s lawyer cryptically said at the time that his client “certainly has a story to tell.” (Neither Congress nor the FBI has granted his request so far.)

Mueller’s investigation is separate from the congressional inquiries into Russian interference and the Trump campaign. The Senate Intelligence Committee also focused its attention on Flynn in recent weeks, issuing a rare subpoena last month for Russia-related documents in his possession. Flynn initially refused to comply, invoking his Fifth Amendment right against compelled testimony that could be used to prosecute him. The committee then subpoenaed his businesses instead to bypass the Fifth Amendment.
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no crime, no charges, yet..........will he sing for that to remain fact?


Thanks for the backup, doll




Musicmystery -> RE: Flynn Investigation Was FBI Retribution? (6/27/2017 9:38:23 AM)

Here, in your own acknowledged "backup" --

"In March, he requested immunity"




BoscoX -> RE: Flynn Investigation Was FBI Retribution? (6/27/2017 9:40:18 AM)

quote:

ORIGINAL: Musicmystery

Here, in your own acknowledged "backup" --

"In March, he requested immunity"


Nnanji would have already cleared that up for you if you were at all capable of any intellectual honesty

(Go ask your mommy for help)




Musicmystery -> RE: Flynn Investigation Was FBI Retribution? (6/27/2017 9:43:06 AM)

If you can't stand behind your own posts, what's the point of posting?

Oh yeah . . . trolling.

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