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Awareness -> RE: It is not ok to joke about killing men (7/6/2017 4:38:48 PM)
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ORIGINAL: tweakabelle
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ORIGINAL: Awareness
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ORIGINAL: tweakabelle
If you were familiar with feminism, and its history- Oh believe me - I am.
I don't believe you. I don't care.
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You claim to be familiar but I have seen no evidence to support your claim. You incessant misrepresentations and lies about feminism and feminists are good evidence that your claims of familiarity with feminism are, like so much of your bellowing, undiluted BS. Well, that would be because you - like all feminists - are a religious zealot who is psychologically incapable of examining feminism with a critical eye. I don't need to misrepresent feminism - the true history of feminism is appalling enough on its own.
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or even if you just knew something about the subject you are pontificating about, you would know that people only achieve gender equality by demanding it and organising politically to achieve that demand. That is what feminists did and that is why the world is moving towards gender equality. Original: Awareness
This argument is so poorly constructed, I had to single it out. You claim that people only achieve gender equality through specific methods... then you then followup by saying nobody has done so. So you have no evidence to support your claim, you're just parroting idiotic theory as though it's fact.
You are deluded. At no point did I assert that "nobody has done so (achieve gender equality)" This is a total invention by you. The text of my post is there for anyone to read and see for themselves that I didn't claim that, nor did I claim anything remotely like that. You claim "the world is moving toward gender equality". Ergo, gender equality has not been achieved. Christ, at least try and keep up, you rambling nutcase.
This is the problem, y'see. In order to perpetuate its existence, feminists have to preach that feminism is the solution to gender equality while simultaneously claiming the goal of true gender equality has not been reached.
Basically, you have ZERO evidence to back up your sophomoric claim that gender equality is achieved through political action. You're basically parroting rubbish without any evidence. The usual modus operandi of all feminists. Claims without evidence. Assertions without proof. Conclusions without any logic behind them.
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It is not an acceptable method of argumentation to invent claims, attribute them falsely to your opponent and then continue as though your inventions are fact. Your inventions are not facts. This is a classic strawman fallacy. Wrong. A strawman fallacy is misrepresenting your opponent's argument then attacking that misrepresentation. You very clearly claimed a route to gender equality was guaranteed, then claimed the world had not reached this goal of gender equality. That is crystal clear from your poorly constructed argument which you are now frantically backpedaling from. Pathetic. No wonder you and Peon are such bosom buddies - you're both equally incompetent when it comes to the construction of a cogent argument.
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Original: Awareness Gender equality is a farce. Men and women have had social contracts over the years and feminism has absolutely ZERO to do with any changes in women's social role. That's a pipe dream brought on by smoking the green stuff far too often.
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That may well be your opinion, for what it's worth. And its worth is precisely zero.
Your claim directly contradicts the historical record and the view of every gender historian I have ever encountered. "Gender historian" is not really an academic speciality - it's a self-appointed moniker which nobody takes seriously. Well... except desperate feminists.
Oh... and by the way... "appeal to authority". I reject your fallacious argument. Idiot.
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For instance, women won the right to vote was a direct consequence of the early feminists' Suffragette movement - this is just one well known example that contradicts your idiotic claims. Women were given the right to vote scant decades after men were given the right to vote. Previously voting was a privilege of the landed classes.
The suffragettes were bored, spoilt, middle-class white racists who wanted the privileges of both men and women without the responsibilities of either. Women who claimed their privileged position was equivalent to slavery.
The vote was granted to women in spite of the suffragettes, not because of them. They were truly vile human beings.
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Most of the gains in social status, education, wealth, healthcare provision, anti-discrimination and legal protections that women have achieved in the West since the 1960s - and the gains have been considerable - were won as a direct result of feminist campaigning. Wrong. They're a consequence of the industrial revolution and those gains have occurred since the early 20th century. As the number of jobs benefiting from the superior strength, spatial ability and reasoning ability of men has fallen and the number of jobs making use of women's ability to talk, take care of children and change hospital beds has risen, the number of women in the workforce has increased.
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That is the historical record, and a fact well known to anyone with the slightest familiarity with feminism or feminist history. Oh bollocks. If it was historical record, you wouldn't be making reference to feminist history, you'd be making reference to HISTORY. However we both know your version is a punch of PR bullshit and has not the slightest resemblance to the truth.
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I could go on dealing with your post point by point No you couldn't. You are manifestly incompetent to do so. I've torn apart your non-logic on many occasions and your constant references to obscure tomes by feminist nutcases do not - in any way - constitute evidence. On the contrary, they reveal that you think reality is defined by the opinions of an obscure and irrelevant branch of pseudo-academics with no credibility in and of themselves. Your ability to deconstruct an argument is as poor as your ability to synthesize your own.
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but why bother? It's already very clear that you are dealing in fantasy Whenever we're discussing your favourite hobby horse, it's obvious we're dealing with fantasy - because on this subject you have so clearly lost complete touch with reality.
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and I am dealing in fact. I've never seen you quote a fact. You quote opinion as though it is fact.
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Unless you can somehow manage to learn how to argue a point using facts, I do that every time, it's just that you think facts live inside your head.
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and to stop arguing on the basis of fantasy Fantasy is where you live - consequently an argument with you simply cannot take place in reality.
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- which is no more than you echoing and arguing with those strange voices in your head that no one else can hear - kindly stop wasting my and every one else's time with your ridiculous fiction. Oh God, you are so outgunned. It's like watching a mouse roar at a lion - you really are completely fucking outclassed in every way.
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