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RE: Donald Trump posts video clip of him 'beating' CNN ... - 7/3/2017 9:52:33 AM   
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Hilarious! The RWNJs, who are forever conjuring up baseless allegations of leftists silencing debate and inciting violence, turn into a cheer squad when the orange disaster abuses the prestige of his office to overtly intimidate, incite and threaten violence against the media and political opponents. It seems that the orange disaster himself hasn't a clue about the dignity of the office he occupies, and doesn't care that the wrestling gif he promoted on Twitter brings the USA into disrepute across the globe.

RWNJs are only in favour of the First Amendment and free speech when it suits them, and are quite happy to applaud whenever Trump demands the media kowtow to him. Even the orange disaster's political allies in the GOP are disgusted by this latest assault on press freedom.

Trump is turning the office of POTUS into an object of derision. This is not going to end well.
Baseless?

Meanwhile: Hodgkinson reportedly expressed anti-Trump sentiment on his Facebook page tied to the unproven Russia collusion claims. (claims made by CNN, PMSNBC, New York Times, etc. and helped by Democratic utterings of "treason") House Majority Whip Steve Scalise was critically wounded in the shooting attack and four others were injured. Reflective soul-searching and mea culpas offered up by these organizations and individuals? None.

Recent, real violence against politicians they oppose incited by the media? Yes. Recent, real violence against the "mainstream media" he opposes incited by the President? None.

Let's not forget that the play being presented in Central Park in which a Trump look-alike is assassinated was not only heralded by liberals and institutions such as the New York Times but in the Times' case, financial support was offered in the form of sponsorship. Their endorsement and support was defended in this manner: "As an institution that believes in free speech for the arts as well as the media,” The Times said in a statement, “we support the right of the Public Theater to stage the production as they choose.”. But...this institution had this to say about Trump's tweet: a “call for violence against the media.” and Dean Baquet, executive editor of The Times, was quoted by the newspaper stating, “I think it is unseemly that the president would attack journalists for doing their jobs, and encourage such anger at the media.”.

Baseless? Hardly...

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RE: Donald Trump posts video clip of him 'beating' CNN ... - 7/3/2017 9:56:18 AM   
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The only question is, are they really so blind and stupid that they can't see such obvious truths, or do they have to work at it

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RE: Donald Trump posts video clip of him 'beating' CNN ... - 7/3/2017 10:41:45 AM   
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One really obvious observation springs to mind. Every major political figure and every head of state has to put up with criticism. Trump however is so very different that he doesn't think he has to.

He can dish it out but he can't take it. People like that generally lose friends, don't get promoted at work and don't get very far in politics. Because they take themselves so seriously generally no-one else does.

But Trump had all of daddy's money and has been the supreme ruler of the crowd of yes-men and yes-women he has gathered around him. He has never had to seriously confront anything because the power of daddy's money has meant that he has been able to bully his way through life, silencing critics and opponents, and ditching inconvenient wives.

And before this attracts a hail of right wing criticism, this has nothing to do with his politics. I does however have everything to do with his god complex. The sad thing is that US politics is so polarised it doesn't matter how the guy behaves - anyone who tries to call him to account is just an evil lefty.

Trump is a big baby with no answers for his detractors.

Did CNN say nasty things about Trumpie-wumpie? Boo hoo hoo.

Suck it up like all the previous presidents, you aggressive, bullying wankbag.

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RE: Donald Trump posts video clip of him 'beating' CNN ... - 7/3/2017 2:11:51 PM   
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RE: Donald Trump posts video clip of him 'beating' CNN ... - 7/3/2017 2:13:30 PM   
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"I pledge to every citizen of our land that I will be president for all Americans, and this is so important to me"

www.latimes.com/politics/la-na-pol-trump-election-night-speech-20161108-story.html

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RE: Donald Trump posts video clip of him 'beating' CNN ... - 7/3/2017 2:26:38 PM   
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RE: Donald Trump posts video clip of him 'beating' CNN ... - 7/3/2017 2:27:34 PM   
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You should wait until Trump actually accomplishes something.

His term is 1/8th over, and still we're all waiting.

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RE: Donald Trump posts video clip of him 'beating' CNN ... - 7/3/2017 2:29:48 PM   
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In the run-up to the Iraq War, a Bush White House official explained to me that 9/11 had changed the way we read national security intelligence. There was a relaxed way to read intelligence, he said, and there was an alarmed way to read intelligence. Sept. 11 proved that we had to read intelligence — say, on Iraqi weapons of mass destruction — in an alarmed way to avoid another disaster. Therefore, we had to invade Iraq.

I thought of that conversation amid the reaction to President Trump's latest tweet, showing him taking down CNN in a World Wrestling Entertainment video. There is a relaxed way to read the tweet, and there is an alarmed way to read the tweet. The media-politico complex is choosing the alarmed way, with a vengeance.

The relaxed way to read the tweet is that the president is — among other things — an entertainer. He was an entertainer when he was a real estate developer, he was an entertainer when he was a reality show producer and star, and he is an entertainer as president. That doesn't mean he is not other things — Trump Tower really was built, for example — but it means that he knows how to communicate in the style of an entertainer. That's what he did in the WWE tweet.

The alarmed way to read the tweet is that the president is inciting violence against journalists. That is the way that most journalists chose to see it. "The president of the United States is encouraging violence against journalists," tweeted Atlantic editor Jeffrey Goldberg Sunday morning, reflecting what dozens of other establishment journalists were saying. CNN's statement in reaction to the president, plus that of the Reporters Committee for Freedom of the Press, said much the same thing.

It's just an impression, but one could note that some journalists seemed more alarmed by the president's tweets than by other recent examples of violent political expression — Kathy Griffin holding what appeared to be Trump's bloody, severed head, or the Trump-as-Caesar assassination, for example. That is probably because many journalists are simply more worried about the prospect of right-wing violence than they are about the prospect of left-wing violence. The Southern Poverty Law Center, a favored source among some reporters, did not build up a nine-figure endowment by warning about violence from the Left.

Even with a real act of politically-motivated violence — the shooting of Rep. Steve Scalise, which turned out to be a left-wing attack — some found it less terrifying than the 2011 shooting of Rep. Gabby Giffords, which in a weird way was not politically motivated at all. Yes, all media outlets covered the Scalise shooting wall-to-wall on the first day, and on the second. But on the third? As Commentary editor John Podhoretz noted recently, "The news media focused on the Giffords shooting with little else in the mix for a week. Three days post-baseball field and they're moving on."

For those reasons — the fact that many journalists are more worried about the prospect of right-wing violence than left-wing violence, plus their belief that Trump is a threat to freedom of the press — many in the reporting and commentary world chose to read the president's tweet in the most alarmed way possible.

So back to Iraq. As it turned out, the most alarmed reading of the intelligence led to a disastrous mistake, the invasion of Iraq. That doesn't mean it's a bad idea to read things in an alarmed way. It just means it's hard to know at the time.

http://www.washingtonexaminer.com/byron-york-reflections-on-the-presidents-tweet/article/2627664

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RE: Donald Trump posts video clip of him 'beating' CNN ... - 7/3/2017 2:31:01 PM   
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So, are you saying that Dubya was full of shit and we invaded and destabilized the whole fucking region for no good reason?

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RE: Donald Trump posts video clip of him 'beating' CNN ... - 7/3/2017 2:31:43 PM   
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RE: Donald Trump posts video clip of him 'beating' CNN ... - 7/3/2017 2:31:48 PM   
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So now Trump's childish tweeting is being compared to invading Iraq.

You folks really have left all reality behind.


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RE: Donald Trump posts video clip of him 'beating' CNN ... - 7/3/2017 11:38:06 PM   
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So now Trump's childish tweeting is being compared to invading Iraq.

You folks really have left all reality behind.




You are wound way too tight. It doesn't matter what the article says, really, your overreaction would be the same.



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RE: Donald Trump posts video clip of him 'beating' CNN ... - 7/4/2017 1:31:25 AM   
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No BoscoX, the problem isn't that everybody is wound too tight.

I don't really think this clip is going to cause journalists to be killed. It's just a clip a teenager could have made. The world is not going to end.

The issue at hand is that Trump can't take the heat. He's happy enough to dish it out and insult anyone he doesn't agree with or he thinks is ugly (has the fucker looked in the mirror?). Then he throws threats around at people who criticise or stand up to him. That doesn't make him powerful, it makes him both weak and dangerous at the same time, like a cornered animal.

It is not about his politics. The guy is a knob.

You can defend his politics if you share his belief system, but it's only the extreme partisan nature of US politics at the moment that leads to anyone defending all this throwing of toys out of prams and stomping round the play-pen.

It wouldn't be acceptable from a school child - why should it be acceptable for a head of state?

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RE: Donald Trump posts video clip of him 'beating' CNN ... - 7/4/2017 2:02:39 AM   
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The president is having a good time, it was a joke. His supporters are loving it. It's the alt left media that can't take the heat and all you poor melting little snowflakes who are projecting your own continuing meltdowns onto him




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RE: Donald Trump posts video clip of him 'beating' CNN ... - 7/4/2017 4:14:49 AM   
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Hilarious! The RWNJs, who are forever conjuring up baseless allegations of leftists silencing debate and inciting violence...


this has to be one of the most stupid or naïve statements ive seen here in a while.



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RE: Donald Trump posts video clip of him 'beating' CNN ... - 7/4/2017 4:54:45 AM   
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The president is having a good time, it was a joke. His supporters are loving it. It's the alt left media that can't take the heat and all you poor melting little snowflakes who are projecting your own continuing meltdowns onto him





WTF, we really are in the playground now.

"You're melting down."

"No you're melting down."

"No, it's definitely you."

"No, you."

"I said it first."

Your hard-headed, big-hitting, take no nonsense President, can't take it.

Suck it up.

("No, you suck it up.")

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RE: Donald Trump posts video clip of him 'beating' CNN ... - 7/4/2017 6:27:09 AM   
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Hilarious! The RWNJs, who are forever conjuring up baseless allegations of leftists silencing debate and inciting violence...


this has to be one of the most stupid or naïve statements ive seen here in a while.




That's tweak. Of course it doesn't happen in her women's studies coven because they all think the same. So she doesn't see it.

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RE: Donald Trump posts video clip of him 'beating' CNN ... - 7/4/2017 6:28:36 AM   
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The president is having a good time, it was a joke. His supporters are loving it. It's the alt left media that can't take the heat and all you poor melting little snowflakes who are projecting your own continuing meltdowns onto him





WTF, we really are in the playground now.

"You're melting down."

"No you're melting down."

"No, it's definitely you."

"No, you."

"I said it first."

Your hard-headed, big-hitting, take no nonsense President, can't take it.

Suck it up.

("No, you suck it up.")

Why are you talking to Bosco about it. Go talk to the libtards. Look on each thread and see who is actually the troll.

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RE: Donald Trump posts video clip of him 'beating' CNN ... - 7/4/2017 7:23:40 AM   
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Why are you talking to Bosco about it. Go talk to the libtards. Look on each thread and see who is actually the troll.


Not really, but it's irrelevant anyway.

Calling out the President for being a big cry-baby isn't left or right wing.

I'm not going after his politics here. It's the fact that he can't take it. That has nothing to do with his policies. His policies may or may not be good. His behaviour when criticised or held to account is however like a spoiled teenager, and that is an insult to most of the teenagers I know. Do you see other leaders under fire like Merkel, May or any previous president react like this?

His behaviour is only being defended by those who see all criticism of him as a left wing plot. BoscoX says Trumps supporters are loving the joke.

That's the problem - Trump is seen around the world and by much of the right wing in the US as a joke. That can't be good for the GOP. There are plenty on the right who are upset at what Trump is doing to the reputation of his party.

As I said, I haven't even started on his policies.

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RE: Donald Trump posts video clip of him 'beating' CNN ... - 7/4/2017 7:34:44 AM   
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Why are you talking to Bosco about it. Go talk to the libtards. Look on each thread and see who is actually the troll.


Not really, but it's irrelevant anyway.

Calling out the President for being a big cry-baby isn't left or right wing.

I'm not going after his politics here. It's the fact that he can't take it. That has nothing to do with his policies. His policies may or may not be good. His behaviour when criticised or held to account is however like a spoiled teenager, and that is an insult to most of the teenagers I know. Do you see other leaders under fire like Merkel, May or any previous president react like this?

His behaviour is only being defended by those who see all criticism of him as a left wing plot. BoscoX says Trumps supporters are loving the joke.

That's the problem - Trump is seen around the world and by much of the right wing in the US as a joke. That can't be good for the GOP. There are plenty on the right who are upset at what Trump is doing to the reputation of his party.

As I said, I haven't even started on his policies.

Sadly, that's irrelevant as the whiney idiot's supporters are into personality politics rather than a discussion of issues or political actions. For them, any personal attack on their chosen moron over his behaviour or the crap he talks and tweets is an attack on his policies, and the ideology of both his presidency and the whole of the rest of the right (even when it comes from somebody else on the right). It's Dubya's whole "if'n you ain't wit' me, then you're agin' me an' wit the terrorists" thing carried to the next level and divorced of the context that let George II sort of get away with that. (It was ugly and manipulative back in 2001, but at least at the time the al queda urban demolition programme provided an excuse for paranoid ranks closing. At the moment it's merely ugly and deeply pathetic as carrying on the same way over a few jokes on SNL is stating that those are equivalent to crashing airliners into buildings, as MM has already pointed out.)
Since November, apparently the State and the president are one (even if the president hadn't been sworn in yet), and to say anything against the latter is to disavow the whole history of the other and relinquish all right to pretend you're a citizen of it. If it wasn't all talk, it would be pretty frightening, wouldn't it?

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