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Real0ne -> RE: Who REALLY Controls the World ? (7/7/2017 6:09:06 PM)

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ORIGINAL: Edwird

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ORIGINAL: Real0ne
and your ridiculous strawman bullshit red herring argument that no one would leave money in the bank further shows your ignorance regarding the monetary prison we are in thanks to our overlords.


I actually said something to the effect that no one with half a brain would leave a million dollars in a non-interest bearing account, but carry on . . .
. . .

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I should be able to take a 1 dollar bill that I labored for, put it on the table today and 10 years from now purchase 'about' the same amount of goods,


Okay, you got me on that one.

Here I was talking about non-interest bearing accounts and mattresses, but now we have leaving a dollar bill on the kitchen table as best way to advance and enhance one's retirement fund.

So yes, If you don't want your money or your retirement fund to grow (in real, not nominal terms), a gold standard is the only way to go.

But anybody who isn't a dumbfuck (not mentioning names, here) can easily put saved money to conservative investments which handily outpace inflation.




I actually said something to the effect that no one with half a brain would leave a million dollars in a non-interest bearing account, but carry on . . .
. . .


and I pointed out that has not a damn thing to do with how the SYSTEM WORKS TO ROB YOU!

It robs you every second you have cash in your pocket. Saving up for a new car? Yep you are being robbed.

INVESTING? Yep you are being robbed, once again you are paying taxes on the gains as prices are going up as a result of continuing inflation NOT real growth yet they fucking call it 'growth' just because the number is gettin bigger, its not its matching inflation, which on average is a one way street UP.

When we were on the gold standard, the stochastic for inflation was forced to come back to zero at some point and go negative, on this system it never will, it cant, if it did there would be no money at all, you will be forever fucked out of your money!

How well somone invests is completely different and nonsequitur to the issue.

Now multiply robbing just 'YOU' by 300 million 'YOUS' in the US alone.

Best scam I ever seen perpetrated on humanity second only to the holocaust and both orchestrated by the fucking criminal banking cabal all of which operate under the head zionist rothschild.






Edwird -> RE: Who REALLY Controls the World ? (7/7/2017 6:24:46 PM)

yeah, well . . .

That tidies things up nicely.




Edwird -> RE: Who REALLY Controls the World ? (7/7/2017 7:39:53 PM)

quote:

ORIGINAL: Real0ne
ORIGINAL: Edwird
quote:

ORIGINAL: Real0ne
and your ridiculous strawman bullshit red herring argument that no one would leave money in the bank further shows your ignorance regarding the monetary prison we are in thanks to our overlords.

I actually said something to the effect that no one with half a brain would leave a million dollars in a non-interest bearing account, but carry on . . .
. . .

quote:

I should be able to take a 1 dollar bill that I labored for, put it on the table today and 10 years from now purchase 'about' the same amount of goods,


Okay, you got me on that one.

Here I was talking about non-interest bearing accounts and mattresses, but now we have leaving a dollar bill on the kitchen table as best way to advance and enhance one's retirement fund.

So yes, If you don't want your money or your retirement fund to grow (in real, not nominal terms), a gold standard is the only way to go.

But anybody who isn't a dumbfuck (not mentioning names, here) can easily put saved money to conservative investments which handily outpace inflation.
I actually said something to the effect that no one with half a brain would leave a million dollars in a non-interest bearing account, but carry on . . .
. . .

and I pointed out that has not a damn thing to do with how the SYSTEM WORKS TO ROB YOU!

It robs you every second you have cash in your pocket. Saving up for a new car? Yep you are being robbed.

INVESTING? Yep you are being robbed, once again you are paying taxes on the gains as prices are going up as a result of continuing inflation NOT real growth yet they fucking call it 'growth' just because the number is gettin bigger, its not its matching inflation, which on average is a one way street UP.

When we were on the gold standard, the stochastic for inflation was forced to come back to zero at some point and go negative, on this system it never will, it cant, if it did there would be no money at all, you will be forever fucked out of your money!

How well somone invests is completely different and nonsequitur to the issue.

Now multiply robbing just 'YOU' by 300 million 'YOUS' in the US alone.

Best scam I ever seen perpetrated on humanity second only to the holocaust and both orchestrated by the fucking criminal banking cabal all of which operate under the head zionist rothschild.


Wow.

I was saying "He can't be this stupid." But in fact you really are this stupid.

What every business figures out is what amount of earnings they get after taxes and inflation. Like every investor, too.

Your only point so far is that you want to leave a dollar on the table and have that dollar pay for the same Snickers bar in year one and 30 years later.

Are you serious?




Real0ne -> RE: Who REALLY Controls the World ? (7/7/2017 8:28:39 PM)

Yeh, your infuckingsane.

you justify a corrupt extortionist system because its 'possible' for those who study trading to work your way around it.

Fucking dumbass funds lose money too!


Well on behalf of all the poor people who have no knowledge how food is being taken out of their mouths FUCK YOU Zio jiz felcher.

For those that just tuned in felch boy is demanding I join his fucking off topic square peg in no hole red herring and pretending I should be talking about the leaves rather than the roots and branches the leaves are attached to.




Edwird -> RE: Who REALLY Controls the World ? (7/7/2017 9:43:48 PM)

So now you are in such a snit that you're stealing words from another poster whom you normally oppose.

In any case, I've read everything you have on the matter, and much more. But unlike you, I've never claimed to be an expert (I know for a fact I'm not), I'm just relating what I've learned from numerous reliable sources (actual experts, not gold sellers) and several semesters of study and requisite term papers thereto.

Simple math: 5% return on investment (easily obtainable) minus 3% inflation = 2% net. Not anything to get excited about, but in any case you are not being ROBBED! by minor inflation.

Even the half-inept retirement funds can do better than this. But you want to cheat everybody else out of potential 8% or 12% or 18% gains in their investments just so you can buy a Snickers bar now and 30 years from now with the same dollar? Are you serious?

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When we were on the gold standard, the stochastic [as if you even know what that word means] for inflation was forced to come back to zero at some point and go negative


Yeah, that "go negative" (deflation) thing is what caused a bunch of farmers and their kids to go starving in the 1870s and 1890s and 1930s. So is that your notion of good method for curing all economic ills? Let's just get back to child labor, while we're at it.

Any of us who work are responsible for increase in national wealth, and if you don't like my throwing $2 or $5 to homeless guys to perpetuate the process, then shoot me. But the increase in technological and other advance is such that an antiquated 'gold standard' could never keep up with. Aside from the fact that most of us don't want to keep pumping mercury into the ground and the streams to mine the gold in the first place.

Again, money is what the government says money is, as has ever been thus.





Real0ne -> RE: Who REALLY Controls the World ? (7/7/2017 11:36:59 PM)

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ORIGINAL: Edwird

So now you are in such a snit that you're stealing words from another poster whom you normally oppose.

In any case, I've read everything you have on the matter, and much more. But unlike you, I've never claimed to be an expert (I know for a fact I'm not), I'm just relating what I've learned from numerous reliable sources (actual experts, not gold sellers) and several semesters of study and requisite term papers thereto.

Simple math: 5% return on investment (easily obtainable) minus 3% inflation = 2% net. Not anything to get excited about, but in any case you are not being ROBBED! by minor inflation.

Even the half-inept retirement funds can do better than this. But you want to cheat everybody else out of potential 8% or 12% or 18% gains in their investments just so you can buy a Snickers bar now and 30 years from now with the same dollar? Are you serious?

quote:

When we were on the gold standard, the stochastic [as if you even know what that word means] for inflation was forced to come back to zero at some point and go negative


Yeah, that "go negative" (deflation) thing is what caused a bunch of farmers and their kids to go starving in the 1870s and 1890s and 1930s. So is that your notion of good method for curing all economic ills? Let's just get back to child labor, while we're at it.

Any of us who work are responsible for increase in national wealth, and if you don't like my throwing $2 or $5 to homeless guys to perpetuate the process, then shoot me. But the increase in technological and other advance is such that an antiquated 'gold standard' could never keep up with. Aside from the fact that most of us don't want to keep pumping mercury into the ground and the streams to mine the gold in the first place.

Again, money is what the government says money is, as has ever been thus.




yeh who stole em from me.

still trying to justify your fucked up programming eh.

You are so fucking clueless about this I dont believe any school would teach your level of bullshit. You dont even know finance 001 much less 101.

The taxes you pay on profits made on rising prices as a result of stock price inflation adjustment has to made up for as well raising it far higher than your simpleton apologetic numbers.

Hell you dont even understand the costs, and you are here to lecture me, go back to your corner, you cant substitute expert corporate programming for thinking.

There is nothing wrong with the gold standard and there is nothing outdated about it, you simply have no clue how any of this shit works and are parrotting your programming because you have nothing to actually discuss.

and if you think there isnt deflation today in yout in-dated system you are smoking some really good shit. Theres a damn good reason people in huge money have jewish accountants.

The banks admitted they purposely caused crash ffs, which means it did not have to happen that way, but it got them what they wanted, an iron grip and money monopoly, exactly contrary to this countries intended design




Edwird -> RE: Who REALLY Controls the World ? (7/8/2017 6:16:45 AM)

Okay, we get it.

You adduce as evidence that your argument is won because you are the only one who can understand what you are saying. Certainly, no one else has managed that Sisyphean task thus far.

There's a term for that.





Real0ne -> RE: Who REALLY Controls the World ? (7/8/2017 8:23:53 AM)

no you dont get it.
your take away point is let them steal from the poor, its all good




Real0ne -> RE: Who REALLY Controls the World ? (7/9/2017 10:29:33 AM)

and as long as we have people who believe its ok to continue the extortion by manipulating the money supply that steals from everyone but hurts the poor the worst the problem will never get fixed.

It keeps a lot of people busy constantly adjusting prices to match ongoing econmic inflation changes and those at the top are always ahead of the game to strategically place their positions to profit far beyond the extortion in itself.







Rasel -> RE: Who REALLY Controls the World ? (7/9/2017 10:45:27 AM)

Me, why did you ask?




Real0ne -> RE: Who REALLY Controls the World ? (7/9/2017 6:10:58 PM)

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ORIGINAL: MrRodgers

quote:

ORIGINAL: Edwird

And so there's this:

http://www.macrotrends.net/1437/sp500-to-gold-ratio-chart

When looking at the first chart, understand that the lower the blue line is, the greater the value of gold vs. the S&P 500. The higher the blue line, the greater the value of the S&P 500 vs. gold.

What seems to be misunderstood is that the dollar in your pocket is merely a financial derivative and history has never claimed it to be anything else.

To have a so-called gold standard has never prevented govt. or bankers from printing up more currency.



some of these people grew up with gubmint as their religion which come with a free programming package.

They dont brag about or wave flags about when the US gubmint confiscated all the gold from the people so they could give it to the foreign interests either, no they dont!!!



for chart illiterates thats how much gold it takes in milligrams to buy 1 USD starting from the creation of the federal farce to today.



[img]https://i.imgur.com/VmJ6KsJ.png[/img]


Hows that for a return on your fucking investment!

and we are forced by law to use that shit, and get ass raped without lube while those muthafuckas get beyond filthy rich off of us, thanks to all the stupid people, some of whom we see in this thread!





WickedsDesire -> RE: Who REALLY Controls the World ? (7/9/2017 6:18:51 PM)

Edwirds brain is better than yours




Real0ne -> RE: Who REALLY Controls the World ? (7/9/2017 6:21:00 PM)

doesnt hold a candle to mine, cant even discuss the topic without running off on every fucking tangent red herring he could think of to avoid agreeing with the facts. Nice try drunk.




WickedsDesire -> RE: Who REALLY Controls the World ? (7/9/2017 6:36:47 PM)

I yearn to lie sloshed in the gutter gibbering unto myself: as it should be I think we would all agree, or unconscious, so I may drown out the sounds of pretty much all of you, and finally be at peace (surely I deserve that) or tucked up in bed with me hot water bottle and 2 of my 3 cats, as the 3 do not get along.


What did he not address thee on or am i going to have to scroll up?

What do you know of the gold or its creation?




Real0ne -> RE: Who REALLY Controls the World ? (7/12/2017 2:07:15 PM)

never said anything about the creation of gold, you loose your screws again?




MrRodgers -> RE: Who REALLY Controls the World ? (7/12/2017 8:09:41 PM)


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ORIGINAL: Edwird

quote:

ORIGINAL: tamaka

Why is gold so valuable to us anyways? I mean... gold itself doesn't do anything for you. Why base anything for value which actually has no value. I mean, it's just a pretty rock isn't it? I mean, personally, i can take it or leave it.


Value has always been an arbitrarily derived equilibration between supplier and demander.

At the moment, India demands a lot of gold because of their attachment to gold jewelry, and everybody else in the world (but India too) uses electronics which use gold-plated contact points and connections. Gold is marginally better than copper in terms of electrical conductivity, less in that regard vs. silver, but far superior to either in resistance to corrosion in open air or water (or high humidity).


I.e. gold is inert and never rusts or corrodes the best electrical conductor we've found.




Real0ne -> RE: Who REALLY Controls the World ? (7/13/2017 12:53:07 AM)

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ORIGINAL: WickedsDesire

Ziojiz?




George Soros




WickedsDesire -> RE: Who REALLY Controls the World ? (7/13/2017 5:54:38 PM)

Fall your knees and declare me god jobbie0
I should probably go to my bed
But I wont




Real0ne -> RE: Who REALLY Controls the World ? (7/17/2017 3:54:58 PM)

you should lay off the booze, but you proably wont




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