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Nnanji -> RE: 95 Per Cent of Gang Criminals in Stockholm Have a Foreign Background (7/5/2017 8:31:14 AM)


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ORIGINAL: Musicmystery

And finally:

Breitbart.

Seriously -- Breitbart, in the same breath as "academic integrity."



Get over it. We've put up with the Clinton News Network for year without whining.




Musicmystery -> RE: 95 Per Cent of Gang Criminals in Stockholm Have a Foreign Background (7/5/2017 8:32:37 AM)

Dude -- I'm not the one holding it up and saying "academic integrity" in the same breath.

If you guys can't stand behind your shit, then it's time to learn to be a man.




Nnanji -> RE: 95 Per Cent of Gang Criminals in Stockholm Have a Foreign Background (7/5/2017 8:37:00 AM)

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ORIGINAL: Musicmystery

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ORIGINAL: Nnanji


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ORIGINAL: Musicmystery

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ORIGINAL: bounty44


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ORIGINAL: tweakabelle

We can all follow Breitbart's lead and make up statistics to suit our ideological perspective. Here's a few examples:

95% of Breitbart readers are gormless credulous fools.

100% of Breitbart content is fact challenged, with over 90% of Breitbart content being fact free.

100% of people who mindlessly parrot Breitbart's lies are deluded - rm being a prime example.

I encourage people to have a go for themselves - be as imaginative and creative as you like, and remember that any resemblance to reality is optional.


the article references A SWEDISH NEWSPAPER REPORT, and it goes on to quote a number of people either in support of the statistics, or who are otherwise commenting on them or the situation.

and you want to continue to pretend you have academic integrity??

You honestly want to hold up Breitbart in the same post as academic integrity?

And expect to be taken seriously?

Let's take a look . . . .

The Breitbart piece mentions "a report." Done by a newspaper, with a sample size of 192.

192. Yeah, that's comprehensive.

Btw, Breitbart says "Stockholm has been the site of 552 shootings linked to criminal gangs since January 2011, 46 of which were deadly." Out of 552 gang shootings, only 46 killed someone? That's 8% fatality. What are they using, slingshots?

Oh, and by the way, trying to translate the linked page in Swedish gets only "Sorry, the page refused, for unknown reason" from Google.

Btw, MOST gangs globally have some sort of common tie, often ethnicity or nationality.

You know, like white supremacists in the US. The Mafia. Inner city gangs.

But yeah, you've got a real academic masterpiece on your hands there.

Btw . . . just for a little context . . .

Murder and homicide
See also: Murder (Swedish law)

The number of cases of lethal violence in Sweden has remained at a relatively constant level over the period of 1977 to 2007 — around 100 cases per year — in spite of the population increase over the same period.[30]

Studies of lethal violence in Sweden have shown that more than half the reported cases were not actually cases of murder or manslaughter. This is because the Swedish crime statistics show all events with a lethal outcome that the police investigate. Many of these reported crimes turn out to be, in reality, suicides, accidents or natural deaths.[30][35] Despite this statistical anomaly, Sweden has an internationally low murder and homicide rate,[Note 2] with approximately 1.14 reported incidents of murder or manslaughter per 100,000 inhabitants as of 2015. The number of "confirmed cases of lethal violence" has fluctuated between 68 and 112 in the period of 2006–2015, with a decrease from 111 in 2007 to 68 in 2012, followed by an increase to 112 in 2015.[35] [36][35] Around 75% of those murdered are men.[37] Most cases (71% in 2015) were reported in one of the major metropolitan regions of Stockholm, Väst and Skåne. The largest increase in 2015 was seen in the Väst region, where the number of cases has increased from 14 cases in 2014 to 34 cases in 2015.[35]

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Crime_in_Sweden#ref_id21

Yeah, Wikipedia. Still preferable to Breitbart for a quick look-see.

You want to do an academic study, awesome. Start with some credible sources.

Breitbart, FFS. What's wrong with you?

I guess they use slingshots in Chicago as well.

http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/local/breaking/ct-july-fourth-weekend-violence-roundup-met-20170704-story.html


1) That's just one day.
2) That's everybody, not just gang members
3) That's 13% -- 163% of what the Swedish gangs are doing.

1) how is that relevant to the number of people shot compared to the number of people killed?
2) how is that relevant to the number of people shot compared to the number of people killed?
3) how is that relevant to the number of people shot compared to the number of people killed?





PeonForHer -> RE: 95 Per Cent of Gang Criminals in Stockholm Have a Foreign Background (7/5/2017 8:43:32 AM)


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ORIGINAL: WickedsDesire

I sometimes go there for a laugh - heh I did a thread last week from there and one from FOX-shit today. Am I naughty?

ooo Milo is back today I see DANGEROUS Excerpt: MILO Explains �Why Muslims Hate Me�



I found that an intriguing analysis and overview on Milo's part. I must admit, I'd always thought Muslims hated him for the same reasons that the rest of us do - because he's a repulsive little twat.




Nnanji -> RE: 95 Per Cent of Gang Criminals in Stockholm Have a Foreign Background (7/5/2017 8:44:08 AM)

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ORIGINAL: Musicmystery

I was foolish to ever doubt Breitbart, that final bastion of American journalist integrity.

I'm so glad to mend the error of my ways.

From now on, I will trust only Breitbart.

Thank you. I know it's oh so politically correct to hate conservative voices. It take a big man to change. Why I remember just a few days ago, in a thread on CNN walking back stories someone of the politically correct persuasion asking why if CNN made a simple few mistakes it still shouldn't be trusted? I had to laugh at that considering how lefties consider Breitbart. But, apparently, you're going to man up and be a leader here.




Nnanji -> RE: 95 Per Cent of Gang Criminals in Stockholm Have a Foreign Background (7/5/2017 8:48:06 AM)


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ORIGINAL: PeonForHer


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ORIGINAL: WickedsDesire

I sometimes go there for a laugh - heh I did a thread last week from there and one from FOX-shit today. Am I naughty?

ooo Milo is back today I see DANGEROUS Excerpt: MILO Explains �Why Muslims Hate Me�



I found that an intriguing analysis and overview on Milo's part. I must admit, I'd always thought Muslims hated him for the same reasons that the rest of us do - because he's a repulsive little twat.


Ya, because in the leftist world a conservative gay man can only be a twat, right Peon?




Edwird -> RE: 95 Per Cent of Gang Criminals in Stockholm Have a Foreign Background (7/5/2017 12:25:16 PM)

The majority of screaming banshees, Milo among them, are not 'conservative' nor have they any notion of the concept.





Nnanji -> RE: 95 Per Cent of Gang Criminals in Stockholm Have a Foreign Background (7/5/2017 2:48:07 PM)


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ORIGINAL: Edwird

The majority of screaming banshees, Milo among them, are not 'conservative' nor have they any notion of the concept.



You'll have to provide links to what they are then.




Edwird -> RE: 95 Per Cent of Gang Criminals in Stockholm Have a Foreign Background (7/5/2017 2:56:51 PM)

You can't look up "Milo" on your own?

You can't read books on conservative thought by . . .

<chuckles>

The notion of the semi-literate lazy fuck who expects others to do the all work, actually reading a book . . .

<chuckles>




AtUrCervix -> RE: 95 Per Cent of Gang Criminals in Stockholm Have a Foreign Background (7/5/2017 3:02:25 PM)

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ORIGINAL: respectmen

http://www.breitbart.com/london/2017/07/04/95-per-cent-gang-crime-stockholm-foreign/

What a coincidence.


100% of people who own homes have stolen something, lied to others, been unkind to their Mothers.

(What a coinkydink).

Statistics are a fabulous tool.

(Stop being one).




AtUrCervix -> RE: 95 Per Cent of Gang Criminals in Stockholm Have a Foreign Background (7/5/2017 3:05:39 PM)


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ORIGINAL: Musicmystery

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ORIGINAL: bounty44


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ORIGINAL: tweakabelle

We can all follow Breitbart's lead and make up statistics to suit our ideological perspective. Here's a few examples:

95% of Breitbart readers are gormless credulous fools.

100% of Breitbart content is fact challenged, with over 90% of Breitbart content being fact free.

100% of people who mindlessly parrot Breitbart's lies are deluded - rm being a prime example.

I encourage people to have a go for themselves - be as imaginative and creative as you like, and remember that any resemblance to reality is optional.


the article references A SWEDISH NEWSPAPER REPORT, and it goes on to quote a number of people either in support of the statistics, or who are otherwise commenting on them or the situation.

and you want to continue to pretend you have academic integrity??

You honestly want to hold up Breitbart in the same post as academic integrity?

And expect to be taken seriously?

Let's take a look . . . .

The Breitbart piece mentions "a report." Done by a newspaper, with a sample size of 192.

192. Yeah, that's comprehensive.

Btw, Breitbart says "Stockholm has been the site of 552 shootings linked to criminal gangs since January 2011, 46 of which were deadly." Out of 552 gang shootings, only 46 killed someone? That's 8% fatality. What are they using, slingshots?

Oh, and by the way, trying to translate the linked page in Swedish gets only "Sorry, the page refused, for unknown reason" from Google.

Btw, MOST gangs globally have some sort of common tie, often ethnicity or nationality.

You know, like white supremacists in the US. The Mafia. Inner city gangs.

But yeah, you've got a real academic masterpiece on your hands there.

Btw . . . just for a little context . . .

Murder and homicide
See also: Murder (Swedish law)

The number of cases of lethal violence in Sweden has remained at a relatively constant level over the period of 1977 to 2007 — around 100 cases per year — in spite of the population increase over the same period.[30]

Studies of lethal violence in Sweden have shown that more than half the reported cases were not actually cases of murder or manslaughter. This is because the Swedish crime statistics show all events with a lethal outcome that the police investigate. Many of these reported crimes turn out to be, in reality, suicides, accidents or natural deaths.[30][35] Despite this statistical anomaly, Sweden has an internationally low murder and homicide rate,[Note 2] with approximately 1.14 reported incidents of murder or manslaughter per 100,000 inhabitants as of 2015. The number of "confirmed cases of lethal violence" has fluctuated between 68 and 112 in the period of 2006–2015, with a decrease from 111 in 2007 to 68 in 2012, followed by an increase to 112 in 2015.[35] [36][35] Around 75% of those murdered are men.[37] Most cases (71% in 2015) were reported in one of the major metropolitan regions of Stockholm, Väst and Skåne. The largest increase in 2015 was seen in the Väst region, where the number of cases has increased from 14 cases in 2014 to 34 cases in 2015.[35]

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Crime_in_Sweden#ref_id21

Yeah, Wikipedia. Still preferable to Breitbart for a quick look-see.

You want to do an academic study, awesome. Start with some credible sources.

Breitbart, FFS. What's wrong with you?


Spectacular.....(flawless).

Nice assemblage.




AtUrCervix -> RE: 95 Per Cent of Gang Criminals in Stockholm Have a Foreign Background (7/5/2017 3:07:56 PM)

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ORIGINAL: Musicmystery

I was foolish to ever doubt Breitbart, that final bastion of American journalist integrity.

I'm so glad to mend the error of my ways.

From now on, I will trust only Breitbart.


Dude!!! At some point we all realize the error of our ways :)

(Thankfully....very few read...let alone...believe / support Breitbart).




Edwird -> RE: 95 Per Cent of Gang Criminals in Stockholm Have a Foreign Background (7/5/2017 3:09:50 PM)

BTW, the term 'conservative' is derived from the verb "to conserve." The term 'conservation' fits in with the spirit of the term, whereas the term 'political conservative' is as 180 from the spirit of the root word as possible.

Modern "political conservatives" are all about destruction of any and all regulation, destruction of the financial system (which they nearly accomplished), destruction of billions of dollars in personal wealth (which they in fact did accomplish), destruction of any efforts to peace and rational comportment in foreign affairs, destruction of the environment, and destruction of anything to do with an equitable society.

Destruction is not conservation, and not conervatism of any sort, however much "political conservatism" claims otherwise, and is most definitely not "conservative" in any real sense.

The term "political conservative" is effectively a fatuous oxymoron.





AtUrCervix -> RE: 95 Per Cent of Gang Criminals in Stockholm Have a Foreign Background (7/5/2017 3:14:46 PM)


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ORIGINAL: Edwird


BTW, the term 'conservative' is derived from the verb "to conserve." The term 'conservation' fits in with the spirit of the term, whereas the term 'political conservative' is as 180 from the spirit of the root word as possible.

Modern "political conservatives" are all about destruction of any and all regulation, destruction of the financial system (which they nearly accomplished), destruction of billions of dollars in personal wealth (which they in fact did accomplish), destruction of any efforts to peace and rational comportment in foreign affairs, destruction of the environment, and destruction of anything to do with an equitable society.

Destruction is not conservation, and is most definitely not "conservative" in any sense.


Wow. That was rather amazing (if not....entirely, not at all even remotely based on the facts).




Nnanji -> RE: 95 Per Cent of Gang Criminals in Stockholm Have a Foreign Background (7/5/2017 3:19:52 PM)


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ORIGINAL: Edwird

You can't look up "Milo" on your own?

You can't read books on conservative thought by . . .

<chuckles>

The notion of the semi-literate lazy fuck who expects others to do the all work, actually reading a book . . .

<chuckles>


Oh edweird, how cute. You're trying to act tough again. You know that doesn't always work well for you. Except when you have your little sister around to beat up the people bullying you.




Edwird -> RE: 95 Per Cent of Gang Criminals in Stockholm Have a Foreign Background (7/5/2017 3:22:18 PM)

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ORIGINAL: AtUrCervix
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ORIGINAL: Edwird
BTW, the term 'conservative' is derived from the verb "to conserve." The term 'conservation' fits in with the spirit of the term, whereas the term 'political conservative' is as 180 from the spirit of the root word as possible.

Modern "political conservatives" are all about destruction of any and all regulation, destruction of the financial system (which they nearly accomplished), destruction of billions of dollars in personal wealth (which they in fact did accomplish), destruction of any efforts to peace and rational comportment in foreign affairs, destruction of the environment, and destruction of anything to do with an equitable society.

Destruction is not conservation, and is most definitely not "conservative" in any sense.

Wow. That was rather amazing (if not....entirely, not at all even remotely based on the facts).

So then, the millions of job losses and national billions of home-equity wealth destroyed by "financial innovation" and the deregulation to encourage it and the outright fraud to support it, and then more wealth destruction of taxpayers by way of trillions in bailouts are "not at all even remotely based on the facts."

Grahm-Leach-Bliley Act, Commodities Futures Trading Act, etc., assigning industry advocates to regulatory agencies (James Watt, Scott Pruitt, and many others.)

I think we're done, here.

Carry on.




AtUrCervix -> RE: 95 Per Cent of Gang Criminals in Stockholm Have a Foreign Background (7/5/2017 3:34:31 PM)

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ORIGINAL: Edwird

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ORIGINAL: AtUrCervix
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ORIGINAL: Edwird
BTW, the term 'conservative' is derived from the verb "to conserve." The term 'conservation' fits in with the spirit of the term, whereas the term 'political conservative' is as 180 from the spirit of the root word as possible.

Modern "political conservatives" are all about destruction of any and all regulation, destruction of the financial system (which they nearly accomplished), destruction of billions of dollars in personal wealth (which they in fact did accomplish), destruction of any efforts to peace and rational comportment in foreign affairs, destruction of the environment, and destruction of anything to do with an equitable society.

Destruction is not conservation, and is most definitely not "conservative" in any sense.

Wow. That was rather amazing (if not....entirely, not at all even remotely based on the facts).

So then, the millions of job losses and national billions of home-equity wealth destroyed by "financial innovation" and the deregulation to encourage it and the outright fraud to support it, and then more wealth destruction of taxpayers by way of trillions in bailouts are "not at all even remotely based on the facts."

I think we're done, here.

Carry on.


Well...if you're saying that it "occurred"....or.....that it's historical fact....I'd find it a bit difficult to argue that.

(Was that what you were saying? Because if it was....I concur...that did occur).




Edwird -> RE: 95 Per Cent of Gang Criminals in Stockholm Have a Foreign Background (7/5/2017 3:41:57 PM)

I edited previous post to give examples of how all that came about.

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Well...if . . .it's historical fact....


It is. It's all in the congressional record, national accounts, etc. For those interested.

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(Was that what you were saying? Because if it was....I concur...that did occur).


Yes. Most of us read about in in the newspapers (especially delved into to some extent by the business/financial publications), some few of us following up on it with books on the subject by financial (not political) experts.





Hillwilliam -> RE: 95 Per Cent of Gang Criminals in Stockholm Have a Foreign Background (7/5/2017 3:43:04 PM)

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ORIGINAL: PeonForHer



I found that an intriguing analysis and overview on Milo's part. I must admit, I'd always thought Muslims hated him for the same reasons that the rest of us do - because he's a repulsive little twat.


I'm not sure why the Muslims hate him but I hate him because he advocated kiddie fiddling.

Hell, that's why the Muslims (especially Saudis) should LOVE him. He's just like Grampa Mohammed.




PeonForHer -> RE: 95 Per Cent of Gang Criminals in Stockholm Have a Foreign Background (7/5/2017 4:07:34 PM)


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ORIGINAL: Nnanji


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ORIGINAL: PeonForHer


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ORIGINAL: WickedsDesire

I sometimes go there for a laugh - heh I did a thread last week from there and one from FOX-shit today. Am I naughty?

ooo Milo is back today I see DANGEROUS Excerpt: MILO Explains �Why Muslims Hate Me�



I found that an intriguing analysis and overview on Milo's part. I must admit, I'd always thought Muslims hated him for the same reasons that the rest of us do - because he's a repulsive little twat.


Ya, because in the leftist world a conservative gay man can only be a twat, right Peon?


He isn't conservative, Nnanji. He's alt-right. But, yes, he is indeed a twat. I hope that clears things up.




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