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So what's really going on. We still have no idea how f... - 7/8/2017 4:16:21 PM   
tamaka


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RE: So what's really going on. We still have no idea h... - 7/8/2017 5:02:16 PM   
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Is it as simple as Trump wants to get richer from his presidency, I wonder what we are getting out of the deal as a country. What do we get?
Trump thought being president would be fun. He enjoys the position, the kudos and the satisfaction. He's a creature of ego and this pretty much dominates his entire thought process.

The people who are effective at manipulating Trump are those who know how to stroke his ego with what appears to be all-consuming sincerity.


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RE: So what's really going on. We still have no idea h... - 7/8/2017 7:52:37 PM   
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RE: So what's really going on. We still have no idea h... - 7/8/2017 8:08:59 PM   
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Is it as simple as Trump wants to get richer from his presidency, I wonder what we are getting out of the deal as a country. What do we get?



.....screwed

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RE: So what's really going on. We still have no idea h... - 7/8/2017 8:10:01 PM   
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RE: So what's really going on. We still have no idea h... - 7/8/2017 8:14:56 PM   
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Status: offline 		All of this has been a massive stroke to his ego and then came the reality TV host and what could one of those really know 'how hard' it is to be pres. He was the genius billionaire, he just knew everything and...he knows nothing.

While until the election, he conned the disaffected into believing his pandering but he's gone rent-seeking, hired a banker/billionaire, corp. cabinet stinking up the swamp in the interest of the 1% and left the little guy to the world he had before election day.

So what's really going on is that nobody knows with Trump, keeping everybody off balance being his MO.

Beware of Twitter,

And as for his profiteering ? Who cares and who should when at least 52 repub senators and twice that in the house are his biggest cheerleaders and know now they could do the same thing and because...he did it.

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RE: So what's really going on. We still have no idea h... - 7/8/2017 8:26:26 PM   
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so business as usual?


Pretty much. I mean, does anyone here think that the USSR/Russians haven't tried to influence every major election in the US since WWII? This pretty much IS business as usual.

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RE: So what's really going on. We still have no idea h... - 7/8/2017 8:33:52 PM   
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RE: So what's really going on. We still have no idea h... - 7/8/2017 9:53:33 PM   
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RE: So what's really going on. We still have no idea h... - 7/8/2017 10:03:58 PM   
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I don't know about you, but I'm not getting screwed. My investments are doing very well since November. Have you looked at the Dow lately ?


It's called inflation.

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RE: So what's really going on. We still have no idea h... - 7/9/2017 4:33:43 AM   
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Is it as simple as Trump wants to get richer from his presidency, I wonder what we are getting out of the deal as a country. What do we get?

Trashed international relations, possible trade embargos if he doesn't shut up bleating about steel imports, an increased Russian influence upon your country's body politic, a bigger chunk of your national debt belonging to China if that's what it takes to get building projects greenlit over there, being frozen out of NATO and the UN by isolationist policies, the removal of regulations on the financial sector, a loss of privacy if voting records are released to the insecure little shit, and getting pointed and laughed at by foreigners if you leave your country while he's running it.
(A lot more can probably be added, but that's just off the top of my head.)

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RE: So what's really going on. We still have no idea h... - 7/9/2017 4:45:22 AM   
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RE: So what's really going on. We still have no idea h... - 7/9/2017 5:30:53 AM   
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I don't know about you, but I'm not getting screwed. My investments are doing very well since November. Have you looked at the Dow lately ?


Your investments, judging from the Dow, have done very well since 2009, the start of the long recovery after 2001 stalled the previous long growth that started in 1993.



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RE: So what's really going on. We still have no idea h... - 7/9/2017 5:38:20 AM   
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RE: So what's really going on. We still have no idea h... - 7/9/2017 5:44:41 AM   
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Status: offline 		Yes they have. Since the election though, the DJIA is up nearly 3000 points. Now getting close to the 21,000 mark.

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RE: So what's really going on. We still have no idea h... - 7/9/2017 5:51:38 AM   
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Status: offline 		Stocks always go up you twat - well before the inevitable crash of the boom and bust cycle.

Anyway, you were telling us all how they fared under ohhhh eg Obama and Trump (we will allow the gains made from his lying fuk not a hope in hells getting passed tax cuts for all the rich no major legislation in his first 7 months (oh thats a new record for any president )



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RE: So what's really going on. We still have no idea h... - 7/9/2017 6:00:38 AM   
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RE: So what's really going on. We still have no idea h... - 7/9/2017 6:14:49 AM   
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My hobbies including: Lying sloshed in the gutter and talking to myself on the forums and being envious of you rich toffs typing away on your gold computers and being condescending entitled greedy stupid dumfuks to us paupers. Free money for all - Trump promised that too didnt he, now, was that before or after the free magical unicorn for all.

Well how they fare- I gave you enough information and you can take riding Handsome Obama coat tails out the start of the equation too to give the orange Pussy a fighting chance

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RE: So what's really going on. We still have no idea h... - 7/9/2017 6:24:28 AM   
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RE: So what's really going on. We still have no idea h... - 7/9/2017 6:32:37 AM   
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Stocks do not always go up. Since you probably don't own any, you shouldn't care any ways. The tax reform/cuts will be passed starting with lowering the corporate tax rate.

Remains to be seen how much of that is substance and how much of it bubble based on hope.

Global stocks are pulling everything up, primarily due to heavy investment by China, but so far only promises of infrastructure from the US. Congress, so far, hasn't been able to get tax cuts off the ground. Once they do, however, it will further our structural deficit. The dollar is weak (has been primarily falling against foreign currency indexes since the election), and the US has stoked fears again that it won't honor its obligations, making it a riskier investment choice.

And at the same time, the Fed will need to inch up interest rates at each sustainable sign of growth (that they haven't this long reveals the financial uncertainty). At the same time, as Congress undoes the financial reforms that contributed to the last recession, uncertainty will again creep in (or at least should).

What's going to happen? I don't know, of course. I think the bubble will stagnate and then deflate. But who knows -- perception, not data, seems to drive the US these days. I can tell you that, since global stocks were undervalued anyway, I took my bonds and some of my US stocks and moved them into global stocks. I'm now about half and half US and global stocks (with a reserve of cash and bonds, and of course a bit of real estate).

In short, I'm hunkering down to wait and see, leaving myself financial options whatever happens next.

Apple is now the first US company to be worth over $700 billion, by the way. That pulls averages up.



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