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The Massive Gift to Iran from two Administrations ago - 7/16/2017 5:50:04 PM   
MasterJaguar01


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https://www.nytimes.com/2017/07/15/world/middleeast/iran-iraq-iranian-power.html


This disaster of foreign policy (coupled with Haliburton's selling of nuclear technology to Iran) created the need for the Iran nuclear deal in the first place.

This was literally billions of dollars Iran was putting into its conflict with Iraq, redirected directly into its nuclear program.
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RE: The Massive Gift to Iran from two Administrations ago - 7/16/2017 7:21:00 PM   
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fuking idiot

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RE: The Massive Gift to Iran from two Administrations ago - 7/16/2017 7:31:07 PM   
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fuking idiot



????

Do you even know what this thread is about?

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RE: The Massive Gift to Iran from two Administrations ago - 7/16/2017 7:38:27 PM   
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RE: The Massive Gift to Iran from two Administrations ago - 7/16/2017 7:42:41 PM   
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RE: The Massive Gift to Iran from two Administrations ago - 7/16/2017 7:43:27 PM   
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RE: The Massive Gift to Iran from two Administrations ago - 7/16/2017 7:46:48 PM   
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RE: The Massive Gift to Iran from two Administrations ago - 7/16/2017 7:56:36 PM   
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is it about you being a fuking idiot?



No...

It is about the Invasion of Iraq and the opening for Iran that invasion created to have influence in the country and profit from it.


You are very clearly clueless.

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RE: The Massive Gift to Iran from two Administrations ago - 7/16/2017 8:12:36 PM   
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ORIGINAL: MasterJaguar01


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ORIGINAL: WickedsDesire

is it about you being a fuking idiot?



No...

It is about the Invasion of Iraq and the opening for Iran that invasion created to have influence in the country and profit from it.


You are very clearly clueless.

It appears you and WD are having a nice chat. I'll just go and leave you two alone.

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RE: The Massive Gift to Iran from two Administrations ago - 7/16/2017 8:13:14 PM   
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RE: The Massive Gift to Iran from two Administrations ago - 7/16/2017 8:15:21 PM   
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RE: The Massive Gift to Iran from two Administrations ago - 7/17/2017 3:25:47 AM   
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Is there a more glaring example of the folly of Western intervention in the region than this?

The US led push to get rid of Saddam Hussein ended up handing the country to Iran on a platter. The mullahs in Teheran must have thought that all their birthdays had happened at once. And why shouldn't they? They had been handed control over a former enemy State with the opportunity to turn it into a vassal State - who could blame them for taking that opportunity?

This has upset the entire delicate Shia-Sunni balance, made Saudi Arabia paranoid about Iranian expansion setting off a dangerous spiral of tension that has turned Yemen into a battlefield pummeled by US armed Saudi forces and greatly complicated the already disastrous situation in Syria. Current events in Qatar should be understood through this prism. Obama's hope was that the region would find itself a balance of power with three disparate powers Israel Saudi Arabia and Iran cancelling each other out. The danger with this strategy is that it could very easily disintegrate into military confrontation. The upside for the US was the chance for a complete military withdrawal from the region after decades of unsatisfactory engagement. Both the Saudis and Israel opposed US withdrawal for very different reasons.

The irony is that both the US and Iran share an essential interest in the destruction of the Sunni extremist group IS, while opposing and distrusting each other in just about every other sphere. The shame is that this history of antagonism will blind both sides, preventing them from spinning joint action against IS into a diminution of mutual tension, even possibly detente. I rather suspect that the mullahs in Teheran, given the right encouragement, could be open to such an arrangement, especially with the more 'liberal' faction seemingly in control in Teheran. Sadly I have no faith that Trump is statesman enough to realise these possibilities exist, let alone seize them.

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RE: The Massive Gift to Iran from two Administrations ago - 7/17/2017 4:58:33 AM   
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ORIGINAL: MasterJaguar01


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ORIGINAL: WickedsDesire

is it about you being a fuking idiot?



No...

It is about the Invasion of Iraq and the opening for Iran that invasion created to have influence in the country and profit from it.


You are very clearly clueless.


Just call him Gilligan

When no one else buys into the madness and hysteria on MMs "TRUMP!!! RUSSIA!!!" threads, MM always has his insane little buddy to preach to

http://www.collarchat.com/fb.asp?m=5053616

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RE: The Massive Gift to Iran from two Administrations ago - 7/17/2017 5:35:20 AM   
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It's not just 2 administrations ago, or one or this one.
I daresay that every administration since Wilson, and some before, has fiddlefucked around in the middle east.
EVERY one of those has come around to bite us on the ass.

We need to stop treating some of these people as allies and treat ALL of them as what they are. Fucking savages who need to be quarantined so they can kill each other cheerfully as they have for thousands of years.

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RE: The Massive Gift to Iran from two Administrations ago - 7/17/2017 5:40:41 AM   
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ORIGINAL: Hillwilliam

Back to the topic at hand from the derail.
It's not just 2 administrations ago, or one or this one.
I daresay that every administration since Wilson, and some before, has fiddlefucked around in the middle east.
EVERY one of those has come around to bite us on the ass.

We need to stop treating some of these people as allies and treat ALL of them as what they are. Fucking savages who need to be quarantined so they can kill each other cheerfully as they have for thousands of years.


No no no

We need to elect Democrats, so they can flood the USA with them and bring all of that goodness here

Don't you know nothing

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RE: The Massive Gift to Iran from two Administrations ago - 7/17/2017 5:42:05 AM   
MasterJaguar01


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ORIGINAL: Hillwilliam

Back to the topic at hand from the derail.
It's not just 2 administrations ago, or one or this one.
I daresay that every administration since Wilson, and some before, has fiddlefucked around in the middle east.
EVERY one of those has come around to bite us on the ass.

We need to stop treating some of these people as allies and treat ALL of them as what they are. Fucking savages who need to be quarantined so they can kill each other cheerfully as they have for thousands of years.



True indeed.

However, this thread is specifically about the US invasion of Iraq.

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RE: The Massive Gift to Iran from two Administrations ago - 7/17/2017 5:55:31 AM   
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ORIGINAL: BoscoX


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ORIGINAL: Hillwilliam

Back to the topic at hand from the derail.
It's not just 2 administrations ago, or one or this one.
I daresay that every administration since Wilson, and some before, has fiddlefucked around in the middle east.
EVERY one of those has come around to bite us on the ass.

We need to stop treating some of these people as allies and treat ALL of them as what they are. Fucking savages who need to be quarantined so they can kill each other cheerfully as they have for thousands of years.


No no no

We need to elect Democrats, so they can flood the USA with them and bring all of that goodness here

Don't you know nothing

Isn't that what we just did?
We elected a lifelong Democrat and now he is calling some of those fucking savages allies.

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RE: The Massive Gift to Iran from two Administrations ago - 7/17/2017 9:25:33 AM   
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We elected a lifelong Democrat and now he is calling some of those fucking savages allies.


Name a president that hasn't called certain Muslim nations allies? You can't, because you are a moron

This president isn't bringing as many in as possible as fast as possible like you pussyhats like to do

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RE: The Massive Gift to Iran from two Administrations ago - 7/17/2017 9:55:36 AM   
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Status: offline 		Just out of curiosity, which Muslim nations did Washington call allies?

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RE: The Massive Gift to Iran from two Administrations ago - 7/17/2017 10:01:50 AM   
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Just out of curiosity, which Muslim nations did Washington call allies?


For the knuckle dragging morons who lack all common sense - recent president



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