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Iran Nuclear deal is working, Grumpy Trump admits - 7/18/2017 8:52:17 AM   
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Trump grudgingly admits Obama’s Iran nuclear deal is working
07/18/17 08:40 AM—UPDATED 07/18/17 08:51 AM
By Steve Benen

http://www.msnbc.com/rachel-maddow-show/trump-grudgingly-admits-obamas-iran-nuclear-deal-working
The New York Times reports that Donald Trump had an hour-long meeting with his top national security advisers last week, including the Secretary of State, the Secretary of Defense, the White House National Security Advisor, and the Chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff. They all told the president the same thing: he needs to preserve the international nuclear agreement with Iran.

Trump, however, reportedly spent 55 minutes of the 60-minute meeting “telling them he did not want to.”

He did it anyway.

President Donald Trump’s administration on Monday declared that Iran was complying with its nuclear agreement with world powers, but warned that Tehran was in default of the spirit of the accord and that Washington would look for ways to strengthen it.

It was the second time Trump certified Iranian compliance with the agreement since he took office in January, despite criticizing it during the 2016 campaign as “the worst deal ever.”

Circling back to our previous coverage, it’s worth emphasizing that there’s no reason to believe Donald Trump has any idea what the Iran deal is or what it does, but the president is nevertheless sure he doesn’t like it. The Republican has called the deal “terrible” and “horrible.” As a candidate, Trump declared, “My number one priority is to dismantle the disastrous deal with Iran.”

Just one month into his candidacy, he said the Iran deal “poses a direct national security threat.” Two weeks later, Trump added that the international agreement “will go down as one of the dumbest [and] most dangerous misjudgments ever entered into in [the] history of our country.” After wrapping up the GOP nomination, he went so far as to say the deal is likely to “lead to nuclear holocaust.”

And yet, here we are.


As we discussed in April, the debate over one of the Obama administration’s most important foreign policy accomplishments clearly hasn’t gone the Republicans’ way. Two years ago, when GOP officials weren’t trying to sabotage sensitive international negotiations – we haven’t forgotten, Sen. Tom Cotton (R-Ark.) – they were predicting the inevitable failure of the agreement.

At least for now, those predictions were wrong. The policy is working, and Trump’s whining notwithstanding, his administration can’t justify abandoning the international agreement.
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This must hurt with the healthcare bill dying today as well



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RE: Iran Nuclear deal is working, Grumpy Trump admits - 7/18/2017 8:59:21 AM   
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*snicker* he aint hit anything right yet has he, just incited the feebleminded to greater levels of stupid.

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RE: Iran Nuclear deal is working, Grumpy Trump admits - 7/18/2017 9:38:13 AM   
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If President Trump were smoking whatever Obama was smoking he would be dumb and happy as anyone ever was

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RE: Iran Nuclear deal is working, Grumpy Trump admits - 7/18/2017 9:42:58 AM   
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oh, he is smoking Putindick and you are smoking putinjizz and Il Douchovitch shit.

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RE: Iran Nuclear deal is working, Grumpy Trump admits - 7/18/2017 9:45:06 AM   
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If President Trump were smoking whatever Obama was smoking he would be dumb and happy as anyone ever was

Instead, he's dumb and unhappy at his own hand.

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RE: Iran Nuclear deal is working, Grumpy Trump admits - 7/18/2017 9:49:30 AM   
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if the orange sludge got any thicker you can have him declared a solid

So he lied "dumbest deal ever etc" lucy - thats not like him is it,



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RE: Iran Nuclear deal is working, Grumpy Trump admits - 7/18/2017 10:08:06 AM   
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If President Trump were smoking whatever Obama was smoking he would be dumb and happy as anyone ever was

he is dumb and happy, you should check out his fire truck adventure
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EBGJqZHsdJ0
Well he isnt happy now, Plain "Repeal obamacare" now hasnt got enough votes to go thru.Its already dead
But to say that Obama was right about the Iran deal, must really hurt on top of this new news.

Now why cant you discuss the facts of the Iran deal?

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RE: Iran Nuclear deal is working, Grumpy Trump admits - 7/18/2017 10:11:09 AM   
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https://www.bloomberg.com/view/articles/2017-07-18/trump-just-came-very-close-to-killing-the-iran-deal


Trump Just Came Very Close to Killing the Iran Deal
At the last minute, the president nearly told Tillerson not to certify Iranian compliance.
Under President Barack Obama this kind of thing was routine. Since the Iran nuclear deal was reached in 2015, every few months the State Department would inform Congress that the Tehran government was in compliance.

Then Donald Trump was elected president. He had campaigned against the agreement, and many of the top aides he brought into the White House believed the Obama administration had turned a blind eye to Iran's regional predations to secure a bargain that in the end was harmful to U.S. national security.

Nonetheless, Trump's State Department in the spring certified Iran was in compliance. On Monday, Secretary of State Rex Tillerson was supposed to certify Iranian compliance again. Talking points were sent to columnists. Senior administration officials briefed analysts on a conference call. The Treasury Department was set to announce new sanctions against a number of Iranians to soften the blow for the Republican base. Allies in Congress were given a heads-up.

There was just one problem: Donald Trump. In meetings with his national security cabinet, the president has never been keen on Obama's nuclear deal. What's more, Iran's regional behavior has only been getting worse since his inauguration.

So just as Tillerson was preparing to inform Congress on Monday that Iran remained in compliance with what is known as the Joint Comprehensive Plan of Action, Trump called it off, according to administration officials. He wanted to know his options and what would happen if Tillerson didn't make the announcement.

And for a few hours on Monday afternoon, it looked like the White House was going to tell Congress it could not certify Iran was complying, without saying Iran was in breach of the pact. This would have triggered a 60-day period in which Congress could vote to re-impose the secondary sanctions lifted as a condition of the deal, or to strike it down altogether.

The predicament, according to administration officials, was that Congress (not to mention the other signatories to the seven-party agreement) was not prepared. Trump had yet to even put forward a broader Iran policy. What's more, the U.S. intelligence community feels that Iran is pushing the edges, but overall is in compliance Iran deal.

Eventually, Trump walked back from the ledge, and the administration certified Tehran's compliance.

But White House and other administration officials tell me the president nonetheless is serious about cracking down on Iran for its regional aggression, and is leaning closer to those of his advisers who are pushing him to pull out of the agreement that defines Obama's foreign policy legacy.

In this sense, he is moving away from some of the most important members of his national security cabinet. Administration officials tell me that National Security Adviser H.R. McMaster and Tillerson have made the case that it was in the U.S. national interest to certify Iran's compliance. They argued that the deal is structured so that the U.S. and its allies delivered the benefits to Iran up front. This included sanctions relief, a recognition of Iran's right to enrich uranium, and removing Iranian companies and individuals from various sanctions lists.

The Iranians, on the other hand, have to keep allowing inspections of their nuclear sites and limit their stockpile of low-enriched uranium over the lifespan of the deal, which expires in the next 8 to 13 years. Iran has already received much of the money that was frozen in foreign banks under the crippling sanctions that brought its representatives to the negotiations. So pulling out of the deal now would leave Iran cash rich and under no obligation to cap its nuclear stockpiles or allow international inspections.

Others in the administration, including CIA Director Mike Pompeo and senior strategist Steve Bannon, have argued against the deal. In some ways this is not surprising. Pompeo was one of the pact's harshest critics when he was in Congress. Bannon has been opposed to most international agreements, from the Paris accord on climate change to the Trans-Pacific Partnership.

For now, it's worth watching what Trump administration officials say about the agreement. One talking point from White House officials on Monday was that the administration considered Iran to be in breach of the spirit, if not the letter, of the nuclear agreement because, they say, the bargain's purpose was to enhance regional stability.

All of this is also a lesson to Western businesses hoping Iran will be a safe place to invest in the aftermath of the nuclear bargain. Administration officials on Monday said the Treasury Department was still reviewing a proposed sale of civilian airliners from Boeing to Iran's largest airline. That deal is under scrutiny because Iran uses its civilian air fleet to send supplies, personnel and weapons to the war in Syria.
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RE: Iran Nuclear deal is working, Grumpy Trump admits - 7/18/2017 10:50:05 AM   
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Trump grudgingly admits Obama’s Iran nuclear deal is working

It was the second time Trump certified Iranian compliance with the agreement since he took office in January, despite criticizing it during the 2016 campaign as “the worst deal ever.”




takes a BIG man to accept and admit 'truth' straight up


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RE: Iran Nuclear deal is working, Grumpy Trump admits - 7/18/2017 10:52:35 AM   
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Trump grudgingly admits Obama’s Iran nuclear deal is working

It was the second time Trump certified Iranian compliance with the agreement since he took office in January, despite criticizing it during the 2016 campaign as “the worst deal ever.”



takes a BIG man to admit the 'truth' straight up

Like you'd know, you lying munchkin.

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RE: Iran Nuclear deal is working, Grumpy Trump admits - 7/18/2017 10:53:41 AM   
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maybe you should see the blame he is NOT taking for the healthcare failure.

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RE: Iran Nuclear deal is working, Grumpy Trump admits - 7/18/2017 10:54:51 AM   
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Trump grudgingly admits Obama’s Iran nuclear deal is working

It was the second time Trump certified Iranian compliance with the agreement since he took office in January, despite criticizing it during the 2016 campaign as “the worst deal ever.”



takes a BIG man to admit the 'truth' straight up

Like you'd know, you lying munchkin.


says the brit ohaha ziojiz felcher


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RE: Iran Nuclear deal is working, Grumpy Trump admits - 7/18/2017 10:55:53 AM   
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maybe you should see the blame he is NOT taking for the healthcare failure.


little premature arent you loooosy


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RE: Iran Nuclear deal is working, Grumpy Trump admits - 7/18/2017 11:04:14 AM   
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he just gave a press conference
No
Im not
https://news.google.com/news/video/AAgWCxIjBTI/dGF_wy1LZUmboqM93PQCp6oSSfwdM?hl=en-CA&ned=ca

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RE: Iran Nuclear deal is working, Grumpy Trump admits - 7/18/2017 11:06:02 AM   
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Trump grudgingly admits Obama’s Iran nuclear deal is working

It was the second time Trump certified Iranian compliance with the agreement since he took office in January, despite criticizing it during the 2016 campaign as “the worst deal ever.”



takes a BIG man to admit the 'truth' straight up

Like you'd know, you lying munchkin.


says the brit ohaha ziojiz felcher

Still waiting for your explanation of how the zionist bitch of Israel who has jews running his companies and a jewish daughter married to a jewish son in law isn't a zionist, liar boy.

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RE: Iran Nuclear deal is working, Grumpy Trump admits - 7/26/2017 6:31:57 AM   
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Oh boy.

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