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Real0ne -> RE: US & WorldWide Christianity On The Rise Atheism is Dead! (7/19/2017 8:32:06 AM)
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ORIGINAL: Musicmystery
- Your assertion that atheism is a form of religion is self-serving nonsense, essentially the claim that non-belief is a belief. If you don't believe in fairies, are you a believer in Anti-Fairyism? If you don't believe in monsters under the bed, are you an adherent of Anti-Subbedmonsterism? FFS. We're defined by our positive choices of beliefs and adherences, not by those we over look. No one is known for not playing the violin, or not being a ballet dance.
atheists are fucking hilarious! Now you are going to push your twisted misapplied play on words [a logical fallacy] as some kind of grand design?
of course its belief.
one group believes yes the other group believes no.
Yoru substitution of a locution for a valid premise is as loony as saying [a negation] the antithesis is not thesis.
Seriously you are smarter than that arent you?
Richard Dawkins has lost: meet the new new atheists
Secular humanism is recovering from its Dawkinsite phase – and beginning a more interesting conversation
Theo Hobson
Theo Hobson 13 April 2013 9:00 AM
The atheist spring that began just over a decade ago is over, thank God.
Richard Dawkins is now seen by many, even many non-believers, as a joke figure, shaking his fist at sky fairies. He’s the Mary Whitehouse of our day.
So what was all that about, then? We can see it a bit more clearly now. It was an outpouring of frustration at the fact that religion is maddeningly complicated and stubbornly irritating, even in largely secular Britain. This frustration had been building for decades: the secular intellectual is likely to feel somewhat bothered by religion, even if it is culturally weak. Oh, she finds it charming and interesting to a large extent, and loves a cosy carol service, but religion really ought to know its place. Instead it dares to accuse the secular world of being somehow -deficient.
The success of five or six atheist authors, on both sides of the Atlantic, seemed to herald a strong new movement. It seemed that non-believers were tired of all the nuance surrounding religion, hungry for a tidy narrative that put them neatly in the right.
Atheism is still with us. But the movement that threatened to form has petered out. Crucially, atheism’s younger advocates are reluctant to compete for the role of Dawkins’s disciple. They are more likely to bemoan the new atheist approach and call for large injections of nuance.
All these writers admirably refuse to lapse into a comfortably sweeping ideology that claims the moral high ground for unbelief. Life’s complicated, they admit. Institutional religion might be dubious, but plenty of its servants buck that trend with a flair that puts secular culture to shame.
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