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itsSIRtou -> RE: Canadian gov focuses on indigenous women's homicide (7/23/2017 6:13:51 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: respectmen Its a lost cause trying to talk sense into you people. This is about why male victims get less considered over female victims. This isn't about who the perpetrator is or why the victim became a victim. It seems that you lot are trying to dodge and skirt around the issue of why males get less consideration compared to females. It doesn't matter why they are victims or who the perpetrator is. This is totally and completely irrelevant. Male victims suffer too, they feel pain too, they have feelings too. Male victims suffered no less than female victims in their horrible death. So why than should male suffering be considered less? Which gender the perpetrator is can't be an excuse. Why the perpetrator attacks is also not an excuse. You people really have no reasonable argument. well, if u actually were talking sense u'd get a better response. Seriously, u whining again doesn't and will never get the response we all too easily see u trying too damn hard to stir up from nothing. tweak asked u an incredibly valid question. Why cant u answer THAT question? or are u really the one-trick proud-cut gelding we see u as?

respectmen -> RE: Canadian gov focuses on indigenous women's homicide (7/23/2017 7:08:41 PM)
So are the perpetrators somehow at fault for why feminists/leftists push for more consideration for female victims over male? Opps that just ruined the argument. So tell me how exaxtly are male perpetrators at fault for why others who they have nothing to do with push for females to be more considered over males??? Gotta larf

WickedsDesire -> RE: Canadian gov focuses on indigenous women's homicide (7/23/2017 7:32:15 PM)
me?

respectmen -> RE: Canadian gov focuses on indigenous women's homicide (7/23/2017 8:13:39 PM)
Lets play tweaks game. But instead of playing with gender, lets play with race. https://www.channel4.com/news/factcheck/factcheck-black-americans-commit-crime 1. Blacks are more likely to commit homicide. 2. Blacks are more likely to be victims from other blacks. Therefore, when black people are murdered, we can use the argument that just because blacks are more likely to commit homicide, we should care less about black victims? When blacks are more likely the perpetrators for black victims, we should care less about black victims? But wait, I would be racist to make this assertion. I wonder why tweak isn't sexist to make the exact same assertions but using gender instead of race? Let's see if the lefties can wiggle themselves out of this mess.

respectmen -> RE: Canadian gov focuses on indigenous women's homicide (7/23/2017 8:31:31 PM)
See how easy it is to crush the pathetic arguments that are against giving males equality? The people in this thread don't really have a valid point. They have no reasonable and logical explanations for their points. They just hope if they keep repeating the same crap without arguing a justification for it, it will all the sudden magically become valid.

itsSIRtou -> RE: Canadian gov focuses on indigenous women's homicide (7/23/2017 9:03:19 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: respectmen Lets play tweaks game. But instead of playing with gender, lets play with race. https://www.channel4.com/news/factcheck/factcheck-black-americans-commit-crime 1. Blacks are more likely to commit homicide. 2. Blacks are more likely to be victims from other blacks. Therefore, when black people are murdered, we can use the argument that just because blacks are more likely to commit homicide, we should care less about black victims? When blacks are more likely the perpetrators for black victims, we should care less about black victims? But wait, I would be racist to make this assertion. I wonder why tweak isn't sexist to make the exact same assertions but using gender instead of race? Let's see if the lefties can wiggle themselves out of this mess. Simple dumbfuck, but of course u'd be called racist for only singling out only one race out of the total picture of likely killers. If I said that: abusive white men are more likely to kill women abusive white men are more likely to be victims of abused white women, and other abusive white men. I would be no less correct. what does that do to ur silly argument? I as the demographic target of Black violence, white violence, police violence, I add,..... WHAT THE FUCK DO u CARE? u just care about sexism. u have no other pressing problems like "driving while Black" or anything else. And u only care about sexism as a means of furthering ur right-wing bullshit. oh I see,..... So Tweak asks u, "Do you want to do something positive to improve the lives of many men? Or do you want to spend the rest of your life pointlessly whinging about feminists and women?" And u go off on a tangent about race and ur right-wing politics. Is all u care about is tagging someone with a label? Is that all there is to u? ur only game? Is that the limit of ur intelligence? the limit of ur relevance? Is that all u really care about ur fellow men?

itsSIRtou -> RE: Canadian gov focuses on indigenous women's homicide (7/23/2017 9:38:44 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: respectmen See how easy it is to crush the pathetic arguments that are against giving males equality? The people in this thread don't really have a valid point. They have no reasonable and logical explanations for their points. They just hope if they keep repeating the same crap without arguing a justification for it, it will all the sudden magically become valid. Alrighty I'm going to ask,... Do u as wholeheartedly support race equality as well then? the same as white men: Do Black Men get paid the EXACT same wages for the same job? And responsibilities? Do Black Men get the same unbiased opportunities to advance in their jobs? Do Black Men get the same right to not be profiled by police? ......and not get killed? Do Black Men get the same treatment as being a great President as white ones? Do Black Men get the same access to quality healthcare as whites for the same price? Do Black Men get the same right to not be used to prop up ur fucked up little agenda? just asking.... u never have a valid point, all u have is another sad article to post and scream sexist from ur water closet. u keep posting stupid stuff hoping somebody gives a shit about ur illogical problem with women. Well nobody does. u posting different crap & u whining about something is not the same as having and arguing a justification for it. And no matter how many times u post and whine ur not magically going to become valid ether. u get the same answer cuz u post the same basic stupid question in a different way.

respectmen -> RE: Canadian gov focuses on indigenous women's homicide (7/24/2017 12:45:45 AM)
itsSIRtou quote: Simple dumbfuck, but of course u'd be called racist for only singling out only one race out of the total picture of likely killers. lolz You're proving my point. You are the dumbfuck as you don't understand my point. To this part of the discussion, my exact point is that if it's racist for me to make that assertion about blacks, why than isn't it sexist to make that exact assertion against men (gender instead of race)? If you're doing it against blacks, you're showing hate against blacks, right? So how come it's all the sudden not "hate" when you treat men as a gender the same way? You agreed with Tweak and backed her up. Now you are claiming its racist to do the exact same thing against a race instead of a gender. So it's okay to use your gender in that fashion but its not okay to use your race in that fashion. So using Tweak's advice, which you are backing up and using against me, let's take a snippet out of her post. quote: So the starting point for any attempt to reduce the numbers of murders anywhere is to understand why males commit so many murders and other acts of extreme violence. As black males are more likely to commit homicide compared to white males, I guess it would be valid to say that a starting point for any attempt to reduce the number of murders anywhere is to understand why BLACK males commit so many murders and other acts of extreme violence. Ya really gotta larf quote: So Tweak asks u, "Do you want to do something positive to improve the lives of many men? Or do you want to spend the rest of your life pointlessly whinging about feminists and women?" Here is something many find difficult to understand to get around their little thoughtless heads. There is no solution, no answer, to stop men or people in general from committing homicide or any crime for that matter. We can sit here all day everyday and shout at everyone to tell them not to kill. Yet there will always be plenty who will kill. We can sit here all day everyday and shout at everyone to tell them not to rape. Yet there will always be plenty who will rape. We can sit here all day everyday and shout at everyone to tell them not to steal. Yet, there will always be plenty who will steal. Most of us know that murder is wrong, yet it still happens. Most of us know rape is wrong, yet it still happens. Most of us know that stealing is wrong, yet it still happens. People who know it's wrong to do bad to others will do it regardless if the victim is crying and screaming and begging. So tell me exactly, what is the magic solution? If you think you know better than me and you know this magic solution, why aren't you fixing things as we speak? This applies to everyone who is trying to be condescending to me in this thread. If you think I don't care because I'm not doing something about it, why aren't you doing something about it if you know this magic solution that I don't know? Really and truly. But anyway, after all of this said, AGAIN, this is another diversion used to veer away from the focus on why male victims get less considered over female victims. Both genders suffer, both genders face death. People keep running away from talking about this. The irony is fucking massive and hugely laughable when people in here keep telling me that I'm not interested in helping men when I am the one arguing to treat men equally while my opposition are arguing to treat females better than males. So tell me, which one out of the two are more so veering towards consideration for males? 1. The people who argue that males should get treated equally 2. The people who argue that we should treat females better than males Christ, even a 10 year old would guess number one within a second. You have to be a fucking retard to think people like Tweak and your self, who are number 2, are somehow more interested in helping men than myself who is number 1. If you don't care about the empathy gap, you obviously don't care about men, period.

Lucylastic -> RE: Canadian gov focuses on indigenous women's homicide (7/24/2017 7:38:43 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: respectmen So are the perpetrators somehow at fault for why feminists/leftists push for more consideration for female victims over male? Opps that just ruined the argument. So tell me how exaxtly are male perpetrators at fault for why others who they have nothing to do with push for females to be more considered over males??? Gotta larf no, the perpetrators are responsible for raping and killing. You seem to think the perpetrators should get away with it, no investigation needed. you seem scared of women being important enough to have their own investigations You whinge about getting your feelings hurt and women this, lefties that, Im not surprised you dont get the irony. Its only PUBLIC (men and women) outcry that got this investigation started.

itsSIRtou -> RE: Canadian gov focuses on indigenous women's homicide (7/24/2017 12:44:54 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: respectmen itsSIRtou quote: Simple dumbfuck, but of course u'd be called racist for only singling out only one race out of the total picture of likely killers. lolz You're proving my point. You are the dumbfuck as you don't understand my point. To this part of the discussion, my exact point is that if it's racist for me to make that assertion about blacks, why than isn't it sexist to make that exact assertion against men (gender instead of race)? If you're doing it against blacks, you're showing hate against blacks, right? So how come it's all the sudden not "hate" when you treat men as a gender the same way? You agreed with Tweak and backed her up. Now you are claiming its racist to do the exact same thing against a race instead of a gender. So it's okay to use your gender in that fashion but its not okay to use your race in that fashion. So using Tweak's advice, which you are backing up and using against me, let's take a snippet out of her post. quote: So the starting point for any attempt to reduce the numbers of murders anywhere is to understand why males commit so many murders and other acts of extreme violence. As black males are more likely to commit homicide compared to white males, I guess it would be valid to say that a starting point for any attempt to reduce the number of murders anywhere is to understand why BLACK males commit so many murders and other acts of extreme violence. Ya really gotta larf quote: So Tweak asks u, "Do you want to do something positive to improve the lives of many men? Or do you want to spend the rest of your life pointlessly whinging about feminists and women?" Here is something many find difficult to understand to get around their little thoughtless heads. There is no solution, no answer, to stop men or people in general from committing homicide or any crime for that matter. We can sit here all day everyday and shout at everyone to tell them not to kill. Yet there will always be plenty who will kill. We can sit here all day everyday and shout at everyone to tell them not to rape. Yet there will always be plenty who will rape. We can sit here all day everyday and shout at everyone to tell them not to steal. Yet, there will always be plenty who will steal. Most of us know that murder is wrong, yet it still happens. Most of us know rape is wrong, yet it still happens. Most of us know that stealing is wrong, yet it still happens. People who know it's wrong to do bad to others will do it regardless if the victim is crying and screaming and begging. So tell me exactly, what is the magic solution? If you think you know better than me and you know this magic solution, why aren't you fixing things as we speak? This applies to everyone who is trying to be condescending to me in this thread. If you think I don't care because I'm not doing something about it, why aren't you doing something about it if you know this magic solution that I don't know? Really and truly. But anyway, after all of this said, AGAIN, this is another diversion used to veer away from the focus on why male victims get less considered over female victims. Both genders suffer, both genders face death. People keep running away from talking about this. The irony is fucking massive and hugely laughable when people in here keep telling me that I'm not interested in helping men when I am the one arguing to treat men equally while my opposition are arguing to treat females better than males. So tell me, which one out of the two are more so veering towards consideration for males? 1. The people who argue that males should get treated equally 2. The people who argue that we should treat females better than males Christ, even a 10 year old would guess number one within a second. You have to be a fucking retard to think people like Tweak and your self, who are number 2, are somehow more interested in helping men than myself who is number 1. If you don't care about the empathy gap, you obviously don't care about men, period. I notice u didn't answer any of MY questions to clarify ur position, and that sounds to Me like all u care about is ur own personal war with women. u avoiding & not answering those questions says it all more than ur aware of. because all those questions address a fraction of the underlying issues to poverty....poverty begets violence in EVERY culture. And that's proven beyond any reasonable doubt. Simply put,... when PEOPLE are more optimistic about their lives violence numbers drop. that means when bigotry goes away, People have meaningful work that pays them a living wage, food for their families, and lives devoid of fear, humans of all races and sexuality thrive. I myself help low-income people get their cars fixed so that they can continue to work or in one case, have a place to live. Notice I specifically said PEOPLE MEANING: single moms, single dads, senior citizens, Black, white, Hispanic, chartreuse - PEOPLE who needed help and had no automotive skills themselves. so literally dickhead, u telling Me I'm not about equality is just ur ignorance what equally caring about people IS about. if u so-call want actual equality, then u must start with ur own head, and u only bitchin about women don't cut it. unless u go get out and get among PEOPLE who need ur actual help getting out of poverty, NOTHING and I mean ABSOLUTLY NOTHING will change well, "really and truly" ur the one this clueless then..... Even in Australia, (where u say u are) there are MANY mens' organizations u could get off ur ass and help if men are the only ones u want to help. BUTT NOOOO. u choose to sit on here and bitch envy like the girl I think u wish u were. because "thou dost (singularly) protest too much." so unless ur willing to PITCH IN & help EVERYONES lives get better, ur bitching about men's issues the way u do is nothing just pissing upwind in a hurricane.

respectmen -> RE: Canadian gov focuses on indigenous women's homicide (7/24/2017 12:46:07 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: Lucylastic quote: ORIGINAL: respectmen So are the perpetrators somehow at fault for why feminists/leftists push for more consideration for female victims over male? Opps that just ruined the argument. So tell me how exaxtly are male perpetrators at fault for why others who they have nothing to do with push for females to be more considered over males??? Gotta larf no, the perpetrators are responsible for raping and killing. You seem to think the perpetrators should get away with it, no investigation needed. you seem scared of women being important enough to have their own investigations You whinge about getting your feelings hurt and women this, lefties that, Im not surprised you dont get the irony. Its only PUBLIC (men and women) outcry that got this investigation started. Nice way to purposely misinterpret what I say. The only ones at fault for why males receive less consideration and recognition are feminists/leftists who push to make it happen. It's not the fault of the perpetrator, it's not the fault of the said person (me) who raises the issue, its not the fault of men in general. It's 100 percent fault of fuckwit men hating feminists/leftists. Of course you never want to take responsibility for anything, even that you are the cause of the discrimination.

respectmen -> RE: Canadian gov focuses on indigenous women's homicide (7/24/2017 12:48:33 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: itsSIRtou quote: ORIGINAL: respectmen itsSIRtou quote: Simple dumbfuck, but of course u'd be called racist for only singling out only one race out of the total picture of likely killers. lolz You're proving my point. You are the dumbfuck as you don't understand my point. To this part of the discussion, my exact point is that if it's racist for me to make that assertion about blacks, why than isn't it sexist to make that exact assertion against men (gender instead of race)? If you're doing it against blacks, you're showing hate against blacks, right? So how come it's all the sudden not "hate" when you treat men as a gender the same way? You agreed with Tweak and backed her up. Now you are claiming its racist to do the exact same thing against a race instead of a gender. So it's okay to use your gender in that fashion but its not okay to use your race in that fashion. So using Tweak's advice, which you are backing up and using against me, let's take a snippet out of her post. quote: So the starting point for any attempt to reduce the numbers of murders anywhere is to understand why males commit so many murders and other acts of extreme violence. As black males are more likely to commit homicide compared to white males, I guess it would be valid to say that a starting point for any attempt to reduce the number of murders anywhere is to understand why BLACK males commit so many murders and other acts of extreme violence. Ya really gotta larf quote: So Tweak asks u, "Do you want to do something positive to improve the lives of many men? Or do you want to spend the rest of your life pointlessly whinging about feminists and women?" Here is something many find difficult to understand to get around their little thoughtless heads. There is no solution, no answer, to stop men or people in general from committing homicide or any crime for that matter. We can sit here all day everyday and shout at everyone to tell them not to kill. Yet there will always be plenty who will kill. We can sit here all day everyday and shout at everyone to tell them not to rape. Yet there will always be plenty who will rape. We can sit here all day everyday and shout at everyone to tell them not to steal. Yet, there will always be plenty who will steal. Most of us know that murder is wrong, yet it still happens. Most of us know rape is wrong, yet it still happens. Most of us know that stealing is wrong, yet it still happens. People who know it's wrong to do bad to others will do it regardless if the victim is crying and screaming and begging. So tell me exactly, what is the magic solution? If you think you know better than me and you know this magic solution, why aren't you fixing things as we speak? This applies to everyone who is trying to be condescending to me in this thread. If you think I don't care because I'm not doing something about it, why aren't you doing something about it if you know this magic solution that I don't know? Really and truly. But anyway, after all of this said, AGAIN, this is another diversion used to veer away from the focus on why male victims get less considered over female victims. Both genders suffer, both genders face death. People keep running away from talking about this. The irony is fucking massive and hugely laughable when people in here keep telling me that I'm not interested in helping men when I am the one arguing to treat men equally while my opposition are arguing to treat females better than males. So tell me, which one out of the two are more so veering towards consideration for males? 1. The people who argue that males should get treated equally 2. The people who argue that we should treat females better than males Christ, even a 10 year old would guess number one within a second. You have to be a fucking retard to think people like Tweak and your self, who are number 2, are somehow more interested in helping men than myself who is number 1. If you don't care about the empathy gap, you obviously don't care about men, period. I notice u didn't answer any of MY questions to clarify ur position, and that sounds to Me like all u care about is ur own personal war with women. u avoiding & not answering those questions says it all more than ur aware of. because all those questions address a fraction of the underlying issues to poverty....poverty begets violence in EVERY culture. And that's proven beyond any reasonable doubt. I myself help low-income people get their cars fixed so that they can continue to work or in one case, have a place to live. Notice I specifically said PEOPLE MEANING: single moms, single dads, senior citizens, Black, white, Hispanic, chartreuse - PEOPLE who needed help and had no automotive skills themselves. so literally dickhead, u telling Me I'm not about equality is just ur ignorance what equally caring about people IS about. if u so-call want actual equality, then u must start with ur own head, and u only bitchin about women don't cut it. unless u go get out and get among PEOPLE who need ur actual help getting out of poverty, NOTHING and I mean ABSOLUTLY NOTHING will change well, "really and truly" ur the one this clueless then..... there are MANY mens' organizations u could get off ur ass and help if men are the only ones u want to help. BUTT NOOOO. u choose to sit on here and bitch envy like the girl I think u wish u were. because "thou dost (singularly) protest too much." so unless ur willing to PITCH IN & help EVERYONES lives get better, ur bitching about men's issues the way u do is nothing just pissing upwind in a hurricane. Because your black issues is not the point of this thread. Go and make your own thread about how hard done by blacks are.

respectmen -> RE: Canadian gov focuses on indigenous women's homicide (7/24/2017 12:50:53 PM)
Oh and you are bitching about things and not doing anything about it. Funny how I am always the one and only who is obligated to do something when I complain while everyone else gets given a pass. Gotta larf

itsSIRtou -> RE: Canadian gov focuses on indigenous women's homicide (7/24/2017 1:14:27 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: respectmen quote: ORIGINAL: itsSIRtou quote: ORIGINAL: respectmen itsSIRtou quote: Simple dumbfuck, but of course u'd be called racist for only singling out only one race out of the total picture of likely killers. lolz You're proving my point. You are the dumbfuck as you don't understand my point. To this part of the discussion, my exact point is that if it's racist for me to make that assertion about blacks, why than isn't it sexist to make that exact assertion against men (gender instead of race)? If you're doing it against blacks, you're showing hate against blacks, right? So how come it's all the sudden not "hate" when you treat men as a gender the same way? You agreed with Tweak and backed her up. Now you are claiming its racist to do the exact same thing against a race instead of a gender. So it's okay to use your gender in that fashion but its not okay to use your race in that fashion. So using Tweak's advice, which you are backing up and using against me, let's take a snippet out of her post. quote: So the starting point for any attempt to reduce the numbers of murders anywhere is to understand why males commit so many murders and other acts of extreme violence. As black males are more likely to commit homicide compared to white males, I guess it would be valid to say that a starting point for any attempt to reduce the number of murders anywhere is to understand why BLACK males commit so many murders and other acts of extreme violence. Ya really gotta larf quote: So Tweak asks u, "Do you want to do something positive to improve the lives of many men? Or do you want to spend the rest of your life pointlessly whinging about feminists and women?" Here is something many find difficult to understand to get around their little thoughtless heads. There is no solution, no answer, to stop men or people in general from committing homicide or any crime for that matter. We can sit here all day everyday and shout at everyone to tell them not to kill. Yet there will always be plenty who will kill. We can sit here all day everyday and shout at everyone to tell them not to rape. Yet there will always be plenty who will rape. We can sit here all day everyday and shout at everyone to tell them not to steal. Yet, there will always be plenty who will steal. Most of us know that murder is wrong, yet it still happens. Most of us know rape is wrong, yet it still happens. Most of us know that stealing is wrong, yet it still happens. People who know it's wrong to do bad to others will do it regardless if the victim is crying and screaming and begging. So tell me exactly, what is the magic solution? If you think you know better than me and you know this magic solution, why aren't you fixing things as we speak? This applies to everyone who is trying to be condescending to me in this thread. If you think I don't care because I'm not doing something about it, why aren't you doing something about it if you know this magic solution that I don't know? Really and truly. But anyway, after all of this said, AGAIN, this is another diversion used to veer away from the focus on why male victims get less considered over female victims. Both genders suffer, both genders face death. People keep running away from talking about this. The irony is fucking massive and hugely laughable when people in here keep telling me that I'm not interested in helping men when I am the one arguing to treat men equally while my opposition are arguing to treat females better than males. So tell me, which one out of the two are more so veering towards consideration for males? 1. The people who argue that males should get treated equally 2. The people who argue that we should treat females better than males Christ, even a 10 year old would guess number one within a second. You have to be a fucking retard to think people like Tweak and your self, who are number 2, are somehow more interested in helping men than myself who is number 1. If you don't care about the empathy gap, you obviously don't care about men, period. I notice u didn't answer any of MY questions to clarify ur position, and that sounds to Me like all u care about is ur own personal war with women. u avoiding & not answering those questions says it all more than ur aware of. because all those questions address a fraction of the underlying issues to poverty....poverty begets violence in EVERY culture. And that's proven beyond any reasonable doubt. I myself help low-income people get their cars fixed so that they can continue to work or in one case, have a place to live. Notice I specifically said PEOPLE MEANING: single moms, single dads, senior citizens, Black, white, Hispanic, chartreuse - PEOPLE who needed help and had no automotive skills themselves. so literally dickhead, u telling Me I'm not about equality is just ur ignorance what equally caring about people IS about. if u so-call want actual equality, then u must start with ur own head, and u only bitchin about women don't cut it. unless u go get out and get among PEOPLE who need ur actual help getting out of poverty, NOTHING and I mean ABSOLUTLY NOTHING will change well, "really and truly" ur the one this clueless then..... there are MANY mens' organizations u could get off ur ass and help if men are the only ones u want to help. BUTT NOOOO. u choose to sit on here and bitch envy like the girl I think u wish u were. because "thou dost (singularly) protest too much." so unless ur willing to PITCH IN & help EVERYONES lives get better, ur bitching about men's issues the way u do is nothing just pissing upwind in a hurricane. Because your black issues is not the point of this thread. Go and make your own thread about how hard done by blacks are. So u bring Blacks into the conversation but u CANT MAKE CLEAR UR POSTION on ACTUAL and COMPLETE equality for ALL Men including the Black Men u USED in this conversation. [:D] [:D] [:D] ......ok I get it,... u don't REALLY want equality for everybody.... I understand u now.... u confirmed My thoughts of u. ur just another lazy bigoted wimp with momma issues. u jealous women have bigger tits than u too? Is that the next groundbreaking thread from u? another typical ILOGICAL white boi

itsSIRtou -> RE: Canadian gov focuses on indigenous women's homicide (7/24/2017 1:56:54 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: ItsSIRtou quote: ORIGINAL: respectmen Oh and you are bitching about things and not doing anything about it. Funny how I am always the one and only who is obligated to do something when I complain while everyone else gets given a pass. Gotta larf I myself help low-income people get their cars fixed so that they can continue to work or in one case, have a place to live. Notice I specifically said PEOPLE MEANING: single moms, single dads, senior citizens, Black, white, Hispanic, chartreuse - PEOPLE who needed help and had no automotive skills themselves. so literally dickhead, u telling Me I'm not about equality is just ur ignorance what equally caring about people IS about. evidently u were laughing so hard u cant read plain English....... and I'm not obligated to help people, I do it because I like the feeling of being a small part of THE solution. u should try it someday.... like after ur DD's get done.

LadyPact -> RE: Canadian gov focuses on indigenous women's homicide (7/24/2017 11:32:04 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: respectmen There is no solution, no answer, to stop men or people in general from committing homicide or any crime for that matter. We can sit here all day everyday and shout at everyone to tell them not to kill. Yet there will always be plenty who will kill. We can sit here all day everyday and shout at everyone to tell them not to rape. Yet there will always be plenty who will rape. We can sit here all day everyday and shout at everyone to tell them not to steal. Yet, there will always be plenty who will steal. I don't find this to be entirely correct. It almost sounds like the theory of 'since we can't stop it all, we shouldn't try to reduce any of it'. That was one of the reasons I mentioned two of the top three related reasons for the male on male homicide earlier. One of them was gang related violence. We actually do know how to deter at least some gang related violence by reducing what drives our youth to joining gangs in the first place. Our youth needs decent education, employment opportunities, and yes, good male role models. quote: Most of us know that murder is wrong, yet it still happens. Most of us know rape is wrong, yet it still happens. Most of us know that stealing is wrong, yet it still happens. This part I do agree with, especially since you did go with the word most. quote: People who know it's wrong to do bad to others will do it regardless if the victim is crying and screaming and begging. I don't know about this part because we're talking about a range of types of homicides. In the USA, a lot of it is just bang, you're dead. (We're big on gun violence here.) In a way, it's another distinction when we start talking about DV/IPV/familial violence because we know this is often related to cycles of violence. We also know that often, the person trying to get away from the violent person is increasing the danger because when they lose of control of where the person is physically, a lot of them escalate because they can't control the other person anymore. I had a bunch of info on the last thread about this subject. quote: So tell me exactly, what is the magic solution? If you think you know better than me and you know this magic solution, why aren't you fixing things as we speak? This applies to everyone who is trying to be condescending to me in this thread. I'll totally take this one on. After ten years of interacting with me on forums, if you don't know by now that I attempt to do my part to give back to the community, telling you for the hundredth time isn't going to change your opinion now. I do not consider donating time, resources, or finances to be the magic solution. At the same time, I know that how what I do gets combined with what other people do, and it makes things better, if not perfect. quote: If you think I don't care because I'm not doing something about it, why aren't you doing something about it if you know this magic solution that I don't know? Really and truly. If you seriously need a list from the last rolling year about where I've donated my time, money, etc, I'd rather do that privately. It's not my comfort zone to put that up for public consumption. I'm not going to be drug into some accusations about "bragging rights" or any other kind of nonsense. I won't fall for the trap. quote: But anyway, after all of this said, AGAIN, this is another diversion used to veer away from the focus on why male victims get less considered over female victims. Both genders suffer, both genders face death. People keep running away from talking about this. I disagree with a part of your premise. If you really had something that could be worked with that was the main cause for male on male violence, that ONE thing could be focused on and it would get more media attention. The number one stat was "terrorism". Do you really think that doesn't get attention? Are you trying to tell me that people don't talk about this? quote: The irony is fucking massive and hugely laughable when people in here keep telling me that I'm not interested in helping men when I am the one arguing to treat men equally while my opposition are arguing to treat females better than males. That's kind of the problem. You are arguing. Not doing. If you really think women get treated better than men, why aren't you actively doing something about it? When was your last time donating your time or money to men's issues? When was the last time you spent time at a men's shelter or helped at a food pantry? That's called doing. It's a verb. Learn to conjugate it. Verbs are about action. quote: So tell me, which one out of the two are more so veering towards consideration for males? 1. The people who argue that males should get treated equally 2. The people who argue that we should treat females better than males Women are still fighting for equality in law when it comes to being the victims. In the USA, we are barely getting to the point where we are treating people equally. In this country, if a person was white, het, and male, it was almost Orwellian. "Some are more equal than others." quote: Christ, even a 10 year old would guess number one within a second. You have to be a fucking retard to think people like Tweak and your self, who are number 2, are somehow more interested in helping men than myself who is number 1. I have serious doubts that you are actually helping men. Hot air doesn't equate to help. Dude, I've got certain areas of experience that I wish I didn't have. quote: If you don't care about the empathy gap, you obviously don't care about men, period I'd bet the farm that I've stood with actual victims more than you have, regardless of gender.

Musicmystery -> RE: Canadian gov focuses on indigenous women's homicide (7/26/2017 6:19:18 AM)
FYI, I appreciate the sanity you bring to this forum when you do stop by.

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