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RE: DOJ continues wiping their ass with the Constitution - 7/26/2017 7:45:36 AM   
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from what you and desi are saying, i'll expand my "wedge" thinking between police and communities to include government and communities.

to me the abuses are yet another argument for smaller government.

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RE: DOJ continues wiping their ass with the Constitution - 7/26/2017 7:56:58 AM   
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ORIGINAL: Aylee


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Here is an article with more details about the practice
from 2013 in The New Yorker.

http://www.newyorker.com/magazine/2013/08/12/taken

You not only do not have to be convicted, you don't have to
even be charged. Furthermore it can all start because: You
were driving too close to the line, or You drove in the left
lane for 1/2 mile without passing. Or your son sold $20 worth
of weed while on your front porch, so we are taking your house.
Too bad you are elderly and have cancer.




Who was president then...


The seizures I mentioned from the article were not federal.
They were states and counties. Of course in order to discuss
that instead of just a having reflexive spasm of hatred, you would
have to do two things beyond your demonstrated capacities.

Read and Think.




Yes, except local/state municipalities can "share" their case with the feds so that it falls under federal seizing rules (helpful when your state/local area has made laws against it) and then the local office gets to keep 80% of what was seized.

well thats good, we cant have no goddamn sanctuary cities.

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RE: DOJ continues wiping their ass with the Constitution - 7/26/2017 9:34:09 AM   
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I thought this was the party concerned with federal government over-reach into local affairs?

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RE: DOJ continues wiping their ass with the Constitution - 7/26/2017 9:36:16 AM   
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*snicker* the venn diagram.


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RE: DOJ continues wiping their ass with the Constitution - 7/26/2017 11:50:02 AM   
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Oy.


It is called the equitable sharing program and is a way for local law enforcement to get around state restrictions.

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RE: DOJ continues wiping their ass with the Constitution - 7/26/2017 1:41:07 PM   
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Got it. Your point is?

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RE: DOJ continues wiping their ass with the Constitution - 7/26/2017 4:42:14 PM   
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Got it. Your point is?


It is blatant federal overreach into local affairs. CAF is terrible law.

Sessions needs to be fired and Trump needs to pull his head out over CAF.


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RE: DOJ continues wiping their ass with the Constitution - 7/26/2017 6:53:45 PM   
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Well we agree on all of that.

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RE: DOJ continues wiping their ass with the Constitution - 8/31/2017 7:15:57 AM   
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worth a read:

https://townhall.com/columnists/judgeandrewnapolitano/2017/08/31/dangers-are-coming-to-the-rule-of-law-n2375083

oh no comrades, townhall!

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RE: DOJ continues wiping their ass with the Constitution - 8/31/2017 7:50:58 AM   
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the idea that the federal constitution is strictly between the states originally not intended for the people is another illusion of the courts.

If the constitution were created by and for the states, then riddle me this batman: Since when does a state have a right to 'life', how about 'liberty'? Privacy to be secure in its papers and effects? Anyone here believe that bullshit?

The only think we know for sure is that we the people gave them no permission what so ever to regulate speech, religion, arms, or privacy.

Of course ask rooty tooters and they will usher in the supreme courts, 'rights are not absolute' only the presumed grant of total state regulation is absolute.



In constitutional parlance, police power is the right and obligation of each state to legislate for the health, safety, welfare and morality of people in the state.

This is basically what state governments -- and local governments with the approval of their state governments -- do. And it is basically what the Constitution was written to prevent the federal government from doing.

Those who wrote, ratified and amended the Constitution all took pains to keep the police power out of the hands of the federal government for several reasons. One was federalism. The states are sovereign entities, 13 of which are older than the federal government. By retaining the police power in the states, the Constitution's drafters provided a check -- a limitation -- on the reach of the federal government.

states have NO rights, they have grant of authority, which creates an obligation but not a right, only people have rights, at least before they stole them all. Amazing what changing one little word here and there does to destroy original intent.

then if we want to take that to its reasonable conclusion......the people are sovereign as individuals because only a sovereign individual can claim any 'right' not claimed by the feds or the state, and if an individual cannot claim an absolute right as their own then they are slaves and operate under a set of regulations and privileges set for by their overlord masters.

Point being that you all are living in the matrix, a gubmint generated program to turn you into a Duracell.





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RE:WINKLE MEET AND SNOTTIETAILIE - 8/31/2017 3:36:22 PM   
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IN REPLY TO SNOTTIE TAIL OR TWINKLE MEET ----- Hey snotterieaietale is back, or is it twinklieaemeet, who knows and who in the fuck caares???????????????????

wheeeooo.......... back to the imaginativeielliely languateateil

go snottiegaile we missed you hahahahha NOT

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