Charlie Gard is proof that if there is a creator, he is an asshole

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Greta75 -> Charlie Gard is proof that if there is a creator, he is an asshole (7/23/2017 8:33:08 PM)
We can say that, we should take full responsibility for the consequences of our own actions in life. That I agree. But when a new born baby who can't be responsible for his condition, it is NOT his fault that he is born this way, is born with a very very rare defect that causes doctors, government, judges and hospitals doing utmost best and fighting very hard for the rights to murder him using bullshit excuses that treatment will cause him more suffering. (PS:Chemotherapy causes ALOT of suffering) What treatment doesn't cause suffering? For just being born defective. This is why to me, if any Creator is actually real or turn out to real. For a Creator to create a creation that is defect to the extent that it could be persecuted by his own country at birth. Is just, that creator is fucking evil. This is seriously unprecedented. I have never seen a situation where a whole country fights so hard against the parents for the right to kill their baby. Personally I would put the staff of GOSH to death and consider them guilty and unprofessional for even taking it to court to prevent a parents from taking their baby home. They are a Nazi Organization. Not for good! This is the sickest form of legalised murder and cloaking it AS IF it's in the child's best interest to be dead. When was it ever anybody's best interest to be dead? I will not block people who wanna commit suicide, it is their life, they do with it whatever they like, they are adults and they can make decisions. But this baby has not reach the age where he can make decision IF he wants to kill himself. Why is the hospital taking away that right away from the child and his loving parents? In my eyes, they are fucking evil and guilty. I don't know what kind of world we live in now, with so many people condemning parents for wanting to save their child. I don't know what world we live in now where, loving parents fighting for a child's life is view as a crime and being seen as unfit parents. How can anybody who is pro-choice support this too? The right of the doctors to take away the rights of the mother to want the child to live? This is sooo hypocritical. The radicalism of this is probably worst than pro-lifers blocking abortion clinics. At least they are fighting on the side of let the baby live. (And honestly, pro-lifers just need to tweak their message to, "Please don't kill your baby, I will adopt it and care for it, IF you don't want it!" And if that is their new way of blocking abortion, I would support pro-lifers! I only support pro-choice because there is no point having a baby born to the this world with nobody who wants to take care of it.) Since when has pro-choice has begin to shift to fight on the side of death to the extent of aborting the baby even WHEN the mother wants to keep the baby? And people blaming the parents for death threats against GOSH. GOSH only got themselves to blame. After all, they are fighting to murder a baby and they are outrage when people wanna "eye for an eye" with them? They murder an innocent baby, they don't deserve to live. In most normal murder cases, in my country, for murdering an innocent baby, it is mandatory death sentence. I thought pro-choice means it's the mother's decision. Nobody else gets a say! GOSH is sooo hypocritical crying about death threats when they are fighting to kill a baby. You don't get more hypocritical than that. Like "Wah Wah Wah, this baby deserves to die!" But we don't. Hypocrite! IF the judge refuses to let Charlie get Treated in the US. I hope Karma goes after both the judge and the hospital. Whoever was the doctor responsible for starting this whole mess and making the decision to apply to court to block the parents from taking their baby to other hospitals. That person seriously! It is murder, however they wanna wrap it up in fake bullshit. And there will be retribution. Insisting on the murder of a child is not a good deed. I can understand the emotional decision to issue death threats because, it is legalise murder happening infront of all our eyes! Unjust legalise murder of a child who have committed no crime and have not sinned yet! And the murderers are masquerading as "life savers". It is like, seriously...., wolves in sheeps clothings. And personally, I find this extremely hard to accept that this is the reality of a modern country, that something like this could happen. It's like a new form of evil beyond Islam uprooting from beneath.

bounty44 -> RE: Charlie Gard is proof that if there is a creator, he is an asshole (7/24/2017 4:21:49 AM)
no greta, your statements concerning Charlie gard are evidence that you don't understand god or Christianity. yes its all difficult to understand but the really short answers is, god is not santa claus.

BoscoX -> RE: Charlie Gard is proof that if there is a creator, he is an asshole (7/24/2017 5:42:45 AM)
What God wants

bounty44 -> RE: Charlie Gard is proof that if there is a creator, he is an asshole (7/24/2017 6:59:09 AM)
I cant watch video where im at so I cant comment on the content, but meanwhile, greta, this has been talked about before in the forum and its worth sharing this again: quote: The Problem of Pain is a 1940 book on the problem of evil by C. S. Lewis, in which Lewis argues that human pain, animal pain, and hell are not sufficient reasons to reject belief in a good and powerful God. Lewis summarizes of the problem of evil like this: "If God were good, He would make His creatures perfectly happy, and if He were almighty He would be able to do what he wished. But the creatures are not happy. Therefore God lacks either goodness, or power, or both."[1] His partial theodicy addresses human suffering and sinfulness, animal suffering, and the problem of hell, and seeks to reconcile these with the Christian belief in a just, loving, and all-powerful God... Lewis does not claim to offer a complete “solution” to the problem of evil. In fact, he argues that we should not expect to fully understand why God permits evil. Humans, he notes, cannot possibly see “the big picture” as God does. Nor, as finite, temporal creatures, can we truly grasp how “the sufferings of this present time are not to be compared with the glory which shall be revealed in us" (Rom. 8:18). But the problem runs even deeper than this, Lewis suggests. "[I]f God is wiser than we, His judgments must differ from ours on many things, and not least on good and evil. What seems to us good may therefore not be good in His eyes, and what seems to us evil may not be evil."[2] This does not mean that what we consider good could be completely different from what God considers good. That would make it empty to speak of God as "good," and would take away all moral reasons for loving and obeying him.[3] Still, like Job, we should humbly acknowledge the limits of human wisdom and not presume to fully fathom why God permits suffering and evil. With that important caveat, Lewis proceeds to suggest some reasons why a good and all-powerful God might allow evil. Lewis also addresses issues in The Problem of Pain on the Fall and original sin, hell, animal pain, and heaven. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Problem_of_Pain you might enjoy this also: https://erikreads.files.wordpress.com/2014/02/problem-of-pain.pdf

Greta75 -> RE: Charlie Gard is proof that if there is a creator, he is an asshole (7/24/2017 7:26:51 AM)
FR I just wanna say! FUCK YOU GOSH! You Held the Baby Hostage from September 2016 until today, 24th July 2017, REFUSING to ALLOW the baby to be flown to the US to GET TREATMENT! KNOWING that he is in CRITICAL CONDITION AND IF HE was to HAVE any chance of Living! He NEEDS those experimental treatment ASAP!!! 9 WHOLE FUCKING MONTHS, You Refused to ALLOW a Deteriorating Baby to Seek Treatment! Now it's too fucking late! The Parents had the funds to send to their baby to the US since January 2017. The Previous MRI Scans analysed by 7 scientists from different countries said there is still hope! It's the new latest MRI Scans months later that now they say it has disintegrated beyond repair! This is seriously, the most EVIL Hospital in the world! So what the fuck is palliative care? Remove life support? Starve it to death? I mean if ya wanna kill it, ya gotta stop feeding it right? The "humane" way! I love it when a Hospital plays God and decides which life is worth trying to save and which life is not worth even trying to save. And the sad part is, whoever the shit doctor who went on the go ahead to apply to courts for their legal right to murder this child probably doesn't even feel sorry about it. Yes they will have to protect his identity. He will get death threats. He just murdered a child INTENTIONALLY. And he won't be punished as the law supports this legalized Murder! Seriously, I personally wish death upon him for refusing to give this child a chance to live! He intentionally made a decision a life is no longer worth trying to save. As a doctor. And believed in it so hard that he went to courts to get the legalized rights to end the life. This is just, not a good person! But a psycho medical professional who just doesn't want this "defective gene" to continue and just want to end it's life at all cost.

Lucylastic -> RE: Charlie Gard is proof that if there is a creator, he is an asshole (7/24/2017 7:31:48 AM)
as he cannot breathe on his own, he wouldnt starve.

Greta75 -> RE: Charlie Gard is proof that if there is a creator, he is an asshole (7/24/2017 7:35:42 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: Lucylastic as he cannot breathe on his own, he wouldnt starve. Lucy, which part of why there is a third court case is because they did remove life support AFTER the second ruling, but Charlie continued to live. So gives the parents time to find new evidence for third court case. But life support was already removed after 2nd ruling said to remove it. They had legal permission already! So for them to let him die, they would have to starve him.

Lucylastic -> RE: Charlie Gard is proof that if there is a creator, he is an asshole (7/24/2017 7:44:48 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: Greta75 quote: ORIGINAL: Lucylastic as he cannot breathe on his own, he wouldnt starve. Lucy, which part of why there is a third court case is because they did remove life support AFTER the second ruling, but Charlie continued to live. So gives the parents time to find new evidence for third court case. But life support was already removed after 2nd ruling said to remove it. They had legal permission already! So for them to let him die, they would have to starve him. you have a source for him actually being removed from life support and continued to live... please because Im calling bullshit

Musicmystery -> RE: Charlie Gard is proof that if there is a creator, he is an asshole (7/26/2017 6:21:23 AM)
That seems to have settled that.

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