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BoscoX -> Dims Announce Hard Left Turn (7/25/2017 6:25:04 AM)


I must have talked them into it. Now they can finally start winning elections again... [;)]

Democrats please progressives with left-leaning policy agenda

BERRYVILLE, VA.

The Democratic Party’s top leaders talked about reviving Teddy Roosevelt’s fights against big corporations, mimicked Bernie Sanders’ calls for a massive minimum wage hike, and echoed Franklin Roosevelt’s promise to deliver a “New Deal” to the American public.

It was the kind of message the party’s liberal wing has waited years to hear.

“For a long time the Democratic Party has been pretty timid about the role of government,” said Tamara Draut, a vice president of policy and research at the liberal think tank Demos. “It’s a good thing to see them leaning in to it.”

In an attempt to prove they are about more than saying “no” to President Donald Trump, the party’s congressional leaders gathered Monday in this small Virginia town to unveil an agenda they hope will unite Democrats for the foreseeable future. It didn’t include any mention of the polarizing president or the investigation into his campaign’s ties to the Russian government, a decision Democrats say they made deliberately to show they have their own ideas and messages.


The leaders and their aides say Democrats tried to conceive an agenda any Democrat can run on — whether the candidate is in a deep red state or bright blue city — a months-long process they describe as exacting and careful to bring everybody on board.

But the most important audience for their “Better Deal” program was the party’s increasingly vocal liberal wing, which has blamed the party’s electoral wipeout in recent elections on the establishment’s perceived political timidity and fealty to corporate interests.

“When you lose elections, as we did in 2014 and 2016, you don’t flinch, you don’t blink. You look in the mirror and ask what did we do wrong?” said Chuck Schumer, flanked on stage by nine other Democratic congressional leaders. “The number one thing we did wrong was not to present a strong, bold economic agenda to working Americans so they’re hope for the future might return.”

The party, he said, had for too long shied away from these fights — but no longer.

Even the language used by Schumer — normally associated with the party’s business-oriented, pragmatic faction — was reminiscent of a revolutionary-minded activist...

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Nnanji -> RE: Dims Announce Hard Left Turn (7/25/2017 6:38:24 AM)

Good. Of course we all know Dems are only in it for the power. They don't have any more intention of delivering what they say they're for than a moose has sense. They'll say whatever they think will get them elected and then run off to the Wall Street bankers with their hand out. They've sat and mulled messages and decided this is what they'll be and it will be fun to watch them all fall into line.




WickedsDesire -> RE: Dims Announce Hard Left Turn (7/25/2017 6:49:48 AM)

I've explained before there is no left in American politics. The only one bending his arse to Corporations is Trump...well this is a strange one its more a he wants them to lube him up.

Hence the demise of the EPA, less financial-banking reg, tax codes, democracy etc

em Dems dunno - over here its different effectively our parties always have a "leader"

Who leads the American democrats?
2018 dunno again - I am not sure which upper seats are up for grabs. 34-38ish and in what states? 2 per state isnt it for a senator irrespective of population - that doesnt seem fair.

They cant even think of a slogan yet.

Due to the poverty of some American minds I s aid Hillary someone - should fight with equal rehtroric if she wanted to win, same for em Dems

Our last election was different over here this year in that the labour party decided to fight the elections with credible policies whilst the Tory Scum bag party fought it with its usual scaremongering insulting rhetoric. Long story short what should have resulted in a comprehensive victory for the Tories turned out to be a hung parliament

But to me I perceive it as
1. Republican jackals have a fuking nutter at the helm with no viable alternatives - they certainly have no policies, like their leader whose essence was just slurs and lies.
2. Em road blocking obstructionists dems - have nothing - at least I hear no clear message from them on eg policy - how to lead America etc






BoscoX -> RE: Dims Announce Hard Left Turn (7/25/2017 7:07:56 AM)


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ORIGINAL: Nnanji

Good. Of course we all know Dems are only in it for the power. They don't have any more intention of delivering what they say they're for than a moose has sense. They'll say whatever they think will get them elected and then run off to the Wall Street bankers with their hand out. They've sat and mulled messages and decided this is what they'll be and it will be fun to watch them all fall into line.


Hilarious, because it's true.




Musicmystery -> RE: Dims Announce Hard Left Turn (7/25/2017 8:08:00 AM)

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ORIGINAL: BoscoX


I must have talked them into it. Now they can finally start winning elections again... [;)]

Democrats please progressives with left-leaning policy agenda

BERRYVILLE, VA.

The Democratic Party’s top leaders talked about reviving Teddy Roosevelt’s fights against big corporations, mimicked Bernie Sanders’ calls for a massive minimum wage hike, and echoed Franklin Roosevelt’s promise to deliver a “New Deal” to the American public.

It was the kind of message the party’s liberal wing has waited years to hear.

“For a long time the Democratic Party has been pretty timid about the role of government,” said Tamara Draut, a vice president of policy and research at the liberal think tank Demos. “It’s a good thing to see them leaning in to it.”

In an attempt to prove they are about more than saying “no” to President Donald Trump, the party’s congressional leaders gathered Monday in this small Virginia town to unveil an agenda they hope will unite Democrats for the foreseeable future. It didn’t include any mention of the polarizing president or the investigation into his campaign’s ties to the Russian government, a decision Democrats say they made deliberately to show they have their own ideas and messages.


The leaders and their aides say Democrats tried to conceive an agenda any Democrat can run on — whether the candidate is in a deep red state or bright blue city — a months-long process they describe as exacting and careful to bring everybody on board.

But the most important audience for their “Better Deal” program was the party’s increasingly vocal liberal wing, which has blamed the party’s electoral wipeout in recent elections on the establishment’s perceived political timidity and fealty to corporate interests.

“When you lose elections, as we did in 2014 and 2016, you don’t flinch, you don’t blink. You look in the mirror and ask what did we do wrong?” said Chuck Schumer, flanked on stage by nine other Democratic congressional leaders. “The number one thing we did wrong was not to present a strong, bold economic agenda to working Americans so they’re hope for the future might return.”

The party, he said, had for too long shied away from these fights — but no longer.

Even the language used by Schumer — normally associated with the party’s business-oriented, pragmatic faction — was reminiscent of a revolutionary-minded activist...

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Schumer is hardly the left wing of his party. He's as establishment as they come.




mnottertail -> RE: Dims Announce Hard Left Turn (7/25/2017 12:58:08 PM)

are the nutsuckers taking any turns off the duty in the airport bathrooms, communism, felchgobbling putinjizz, propaganda, lying, goon and thugging, cowardice, borrowing and spending, and selling out our country as they destroy it or is it the same old shit since St. Wrinklemeat?




Musicmystery -> RE: Dims Announce Hard Left Turn (7/25/2017 1:50:12 PM)

It's worse than the Reagan years. It's the Gingrich cancer metastasized.




BoscoX -> RE: Dims Announce Hard Left Turn (7/26/2017 6:27:24 AM)


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ORIGINAL: Musicmystery

Schumer is hardly the left wing of his party. He's as establishment as they come.


Read the article THEN comment




Musicmystery -> RE: Dims Announce Hard Left Turn (7/26/2017 6:52:44 AM)

Advice you should follow.

And, Schumer is hardly the left wing of his party. He's as establishment as they come.

His support for Clinton at the top of the list.




BoscoX -> RE: Dims Announce Hard Left Turn (7/26/2017 4:07:36 PM)


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ORIGINAL: Musicmystery

Advice you should follow.

And, Schumer is hardly the left wing of his party. He's as establishment as they come.

His support for Clinton at the top of the list.


Schumer is farther to the insane left than you are




mnottertail -> RE: Dims Announce Hard Left Turn (7/26/2017 4:20:08 PM)

looks like many of the putinjizz felchgobbling nutsuckers have taken a hard turn and are fully behind obamacare now.

they are always against it before they are for it, or for it before they are against it. They are stupid, and talk into microphones.

They are cowardly pantshitters to the last nutsucker.




Musicmystery -> RE: Dims Announce Hard Left Turn (7/26/2017 6:55:03 PM)


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ORIGINAL: BoscoX


quote:

ORIGINAL: Musicmystery

Advice you should follow.

And, Schumer is hardly the left wing of his party. He's as establishment as they come.

His support for Clinton at the top of the list.


Schumer is farther to the insane left than you are

Well if that's true, then so was Hilary.

But...it's not true.

* shrug *




BoscoX -> RE: Dims Announce Hard Left Turn (7/26/2017 7:02:50 PM)


Schumer is scheming with rabid socialist Fauxcahontas to mount a frontal attack on capitalism itself

From the article (which you obviously failed to either read or understand):

quote:

Even the language used by Schumer — normally associated with the party’s business-oriented, pragmatic faction — was reminiscent of a revolutionary-minded activist.

“Old-fashioned capitalism has broken down, to the detriment of the consumer,” the Democratic Senate leader said. (The term “Better Deal” is an homage to President Franklin Roosevelt’s New Deal economic program from the 1930s, which many liberals still view as the foundation for the party’s economic agenda.)

Schumer was joined on stage by liberal icon Sen. Elizabeth Warren of Massachusetts, a sign of the support of the agenda from many of Capitol Hill’s progressive leaders. On stage, the potential 2020 presidential contender talked up the agenda’s anti-trust proposal, which she said was proof Democrats are trying to “take back our government.”

“For decades now, government has slacked off enforcement of those laws, and the result has been bigger and bigger corporations with more and more power,” Warren said. “Democrats are ready to take this challenge head on.”


I even posted a teaser to Schumer's "revolutionary" stand in the OP [;)]




Musicmystery -> RE: Dims Announce Hard Left Turn (7/26/2017 7:05:46 PM)

* Yawn *

Wake me when they have an actual plan.




BoscoX -> RE: Dims Announce Hard Left Turn (7/26/2017 8:18:10 PM)

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ORIGINAL: Musicmystery

* Yawn *

Wake me when they have an actual plan.


Their plan is exactly the same as your plan

Stagger around with wild eyes bleating hysterically about "TRUMP!!! and RUSSIA!!!" while calling everyone who disagrees with you cunts, twats, faggots, Nazis, traitors, and whatever else springs to mind

Same basic plan that got you all here, in other words





mnottertail -> RE: Dims Announce Hard Left Turn (7/26/2017 9:31:13 PM)

Nutsuckers have always done that though, they are planless shitlickers. I second the *yawn* Nothing new under the nutsucker sun, nothing.




ThatDizzyChick -> RE: Dims Announce Hard Left Turn (7/26/2017 10:35:12 PM)

Oh fuck, only in Yankistan could that be considered a "hard left turn".

The depth of political ignorance in this political discussion group is truly breathtaking.




WickedsDesire -> RE: Dims Announce Hard Left Turn (7/27/2017 2:00:52 AM)

Yankistan I may have to purloin that ;)




Hillwilliam -> RE: Dims Announce Hard Left Turn (7/27/2017 4:03:33 AM)

So they're going to emulate Teddy Roosevelt huh?

He was a Republican yaknow




BoscoX -> RE: Dims Announce Hard Left Turn (7/27/2017 4:10:07 AM)


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ORIGINAL: Hillwilliam

So they're going to emulate Teddy Roosevelt huh?

He was a Republican yaknow


No one ever accused you of being able to read an article, I suppose... [:D]




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