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Termyn8or -> RE: What is the point of prayer? (7/28/2017 3:50:43 PM)

FR

What's the purpose of religion in the first place ? We live in a supposedly advanced world here and should be well past that guy in the sky shit. But we aren't, why ?

Well when you pray and succeed you give part of that credit to your god. You believe that what you have done pleases him. Now when you fail, you have something to blame it on. That you somehow did not please your god.

You externalize your failures. To many, it is worth sharing credit for your successes.

The psychology of huans makes them want to believe. Many have grown out of that. I do not believe that there is absolutely nothing after death, but I am damn sure nobody around here can tell about it. I think the universe is god in a way. And this god is not much of a communicator. I do not believe the Bible, I think it was written by a bunch of loons, and read by the really nuts. World created in a day. We measure days by the rotation of the Earth, so how long was a day before there was an Earth ?

Assholes have it all distorted. First of all about abortion, there is something about "bitter waters" in there. And Onanism, jacking off ? Your god was not pissed off about that, it was that supposedly he wanted Onan to have a kid with some Woman. And Leviticus was off his rocker.

These nuts gave us a book allowing us to misinterpret it to our heart's desire. And it is full of contradictions. Thou shalt not kill, but then I give you this land, all you have to do is kill all the people there. And Man shall not lay with Man, yet some are created with the desire to do so. What kind of joke is that ? I used to be quite against homosexuality, until a long talk with one. He sees a Woman he simply does not get turned on, but a Man he does. Well WTF do you want him to do about it ?

I can't say there is no god, but I do not believe that book of bullshit. What's more, who decided which books go in there ? I read somewhere that there were five more books of Moses that explained the magic supposedly used by Moses, but they were determined to be too dangerous to include. What's more, in the old day people did not have Bibles, only the preachers did. I doubt they were actually forbidden, but in the old days it was quite and undertaking to publish anything. So people were also at the mercy of the preacher's interpretation of it.

And look at the Koran. People says it says this, it says that, and it probably does.

So pray for whatever you want. But even if your god exists, he might just say no.

T^T




sloguy02246 -> RE: What is the point of prayer? (7/28/2017 5:51:08 PM)

FR -

To (sorta) quote Nathan Filion as Malcolm Reynolds in "Serenity":
"..it's been my experience that praying to the almighty is always nothing but a long wait for a train that never comes."




bounty44 -> RE: What is the point of prayer? (7/28/2017 6:47:36 PM)

right, because no prayer has ever been answered with either a yes, no, or maybe.

or as if all prayer is a matter of "give me something" as opposed to just speaking to god in order to give thanks, seek guidance etc.

the bible has over a hundred instances of the use of the word pray---its full of examples of answered prayer, encouragement to pray, admonitions to pray and the worth of prayer.

jesus prayed, jesus taught his followers to pray. people's testimonies and faith lives all have examples of answered prayer (which is to say, god answers all prayer---see above), and perhaps as importantly, how prayer has changed them as people.

as an aside, one of the theological questions in church history that has caused some debate is, does god "hear" the prayers of non-believers.






ThatDizzyChick -> RE: What is the point of prayer? (7/29/2017 1:57:48 AM)

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its full of examples of answered prayer

It is also full of tales of magic, flying machines, magical creatures, and even a few giants for good measure. Sorry, but as soon as you reference the Bible, or any similar holy book, to prove the efficacy of prayer, you have conceded it has none. I mean come on, that is like quoting from Mein Kampf to prove Jews are evil.




WhoreMods -> RE: What is the point of prayer? (7/29/2017 5:07:56 AM)


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ORIGINAL: ThatDizzyChick

quote:

its full of examples of answered prayer

It is also full of tales of magic, flying machines, magical creatures, and even a few giants for good measure. Sorry, but as soon as you reference the Bible, or any similar holy book, to prove the efficacy of prayer, you have conceded it has none. I mean come on, that is like quoting from Mein Kampf to prove Jews are evil.

Careful about mentioning that: both the holocaust twins are posting in this thread, and at least one of them refuses to accept that The Protocols of the Elders of Zion was a forgery.
[;)]




WickedsDesire -> RE: What is the point of prayer? (7/29/2017 2:00:00 PM)

shhhhhhh


Anyhoos i am doing the medusa touch tonight


I better do the trump biography eh!





Real0ne -> RE: What is the point of prayer? (7/29/2017 2:05:07 PM)


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ORIGINAL: ThatDizzyChick

quote:

its full of examples of answered prayer

It is also full of tales of magic, flying machines, magical creatures, and even a few giants for good measure. Sorry, but as soon as you reference the Bible, or any similar holy book, to prove the efficacy of prayer, you have conceded it has none. I mean come on, that is like quoting from Mein Kampf to prove Jews are evil.



brilliant, what is an allegory for 100

thankfully the future of mankind does not rest upon the biblical knowledge displayed on this board.




Real0ne -> RE: What is the point of prayer? (7/29/2017 2:07:42 PM)


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ORIGINAL: Termyn8or

Well when you pray and succeed you give part of that credit to your god. You believe that what you have done pleases him. Now when you fail, you have something to blame it on. That you somehow did not please your god.

You externalize your failures. To many, it is worth sharing credit for your successes.





seems its a balance proposition, blaming both success and failure on God, in both cases externalized.




Termyn8or -> RE: What is the point of prayer? (7/29/2017 2:09:53 PM)


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ORIGINAL: WhoreMods


quote:

ORIGINAL: ThatDizzyChick

quote:

its full of examples of answered prayer

It is also full of tales of magic, flying machines, magical creatures, and even a few giants for good measure. Sorry, but as soon as you reference the Bible, or any similar holy book, to prove the efficacy of prayer, you have conceded it has none. I mean come on, that is like quoting from Mein Kampf to prove Jews are evil.

Careful about mentioning that: both the holocaust twins are posting in this thread, and at least one of them refuses to accept that The Protocols of the Elders of Zion was a forgery.
[;)]


For something to be a forgery there must be an original. LOL

T^T




Real0ne -> RE: What is the point of prayer? (7/29/2017 2:14:22 PM)

Please dont traumatize the whore and push him further over the edge than he already is with the use of logic and reason.





WickedsDesire -> RE: What is the point of prayer? (7/29/2017 3:01:16 PM)

You could always try me?

Whoremods brain-mind is better than yours

You waste your brain and yet you have one. Why?




Real0ne -> RE: What is the point of prayer? (7/29/2017 5:37:22 PM)

yes the whores dead-brain-mind-less is far better at making a total fool out of himself than anyone else on the board, well maybe with the exception of felchboy LOL




WickedsDesire -> RE: What is the point of prayer? (7/29/2017 8:40:29 PM)

there is no you
there is no him
to me

whats not to understand - I will allow swearyman barely but not to 100%

why do you care what I think anyway?




Real0ne -> RE: What is the point of prayer? (7/29/2017 10:15:02 PM)

dont break your back patronizing yourself, instead have another drink, you can still type




WickedsDesire -> RE: What is the point of prayer? (7/29/2017 10:47:21 PM)

There is no you spineless twatery.
They say you haunt the lavy pan and you are uglier than sin itself - is there truth to this hideous monstrosity?




Musicmystery -> RE: What is the point of prayer? (7/30/2017 4:59:38 AM)


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ORIGINAL: Termyn8or


quote:

ORIGINAL: WhoreMods


quote:

ORIGINAL: ThatDizzyChick

quote:

its full of examples of answered prayer

It is also full of tales of magic, flying machines, magical creatures, and even a few giants for good measure. Sorry, but as soon as you reference the Bible, or any similar holy book, to prove the efficacy of prayer, you have conceded it has none. I mean come on, that is like quoting from Mein Kampf to prove Jews are evil.

Careful about mentioning that: both the holocaust twins are posting in this thread, and at least one of them refuses to accept that The Protocols of the Elders of Zion was a forgery.
[;)]


For something to be a forgery there must be an original. LOL

T^T

I have a letter signed by Abraham Lincoln predicting my birth and urging all Americans to follow my prophecies.

A forgery you say? Naw . . . for something to be a forgery there must be an original, so bow before me.




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