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respectmen -> Is Male Disposability the Fault of Patriarchy? (8/1/2017 1:03:04 AM)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PotPeM__JMY&feature=youtu.be




Termyn8or -> RE: Is Male Disposability the Fault of Patriarchy? (8/1/2017 3:26:00 AM)

You and your god damn videos.

Say something.

T^T




WickedsDesire -> RE: Is Male Disposability the Fault of Patriarchy? (8/1/2017 3:45:39 AM)

There is no you two best you fuk off




Musicmystery -> RE: Is Male Disposability the Fault of Patriarchy? (8/1/2017 6:29:12 AM)

Seriously, you aren't well.




vincentML -> RE: Is Male Disposability the Fault of Patriarchy? (8/1/2017 9:26:45 AM)

Seriously, I don't do effin videos.




WhoreMods -> RE: Is Male Disposability the Fault of Patriarchy? (8/1/2017 11:04:05 AM)


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ORIGINAL: vincentML

Seriously, I don't do effin videos.

You're not missing anything.




ThatDizzyChick -> RE: Is Male Disposability the Fault of Patriarchy? (8/1/2017 11:46:27 AM)

Yes, and the guys in that video do not know what they are talking about. But I do love the irony of a couple gender ideologues complaining about what gender ideologues think, all while misrepresenting those views.
Thanks for posting this, it was a good laugh.




respectmen -> RE: Is Male Disposability the Fault of Patriarchy? (8/1/2017 1:07:11 PM)

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ORIGINAL: ThatDizzyChick

Yes, and the guys in that video do not know what they are talking about. But I do love the irony of a couple gender ideologues complaining about what gender ideologues think, all while misrepresenting those views.
Thanks for posting this, it was a good laugh.


What I find ironic from what you said is that the people who claim that patriarchy is the fault of this or that are the ones who don't know what they're talking about as its something that's unclear and unproven. Patriarchy theory is based on feelings, not fact. Idiots such as your self use patriarchy as a multi purpose scapegoat. Anything that annoys you is patriarchy pretty much.

Patriarchy theory is nothing more than anti scientific rubbish. It's something that's totally unproven and used to pile hate on men.




respectmen -> RE: Is Male Disposability the Fault of Patriarchy? (8/1/2017 1:18:38 PM)

Oh and by the way, male disposability has nothing to do with patriarchy or matriarchy. It has always been based on human survival. Warren in the video explains it perfectly.




Spiritedsub2 -> RE: Is Male Disposability the Fault of Patriarchy? (8/1/2017 1:28:55 PM)


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ORIGINAL: Termyn8or

You and your god damn videos.

Say something.

T^T


Ummm, you sure about that?!




mnottertail -> RE: Is Male Disposability the Fault of Patriarchy? (8/1/2017 1:50:30 PM)

non-returnable bottles is the seminal cause at work here.

/end thread.




Danemora -> RE: Is Male Disposability the Fault of Patriarchy? (8/1/2017 2:15:04 PM)

~FRing it~

So when one disposes of a male, do we have to haul them out to the landfill ourselves or will Waste Management just let me put him in my roll cart for Thursday morning pick up?




respectmen -> RE: Is Male Disposability the Fault of Patriarchy? (8/1/2017 8:19:02 PM)

The feminist flow chart of blaming men.

https://i.redd.it/xwh27j16s3dz.jpg

Gotta larf




ThatDizzyChick -> RE: Is Male Disposability the Fault of Patriarchy? (8/1/2017 8:48:17 PM)

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What I find ironic from what you said

And, as usual, you didn't understand a damn thing I said.
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Patriarchy theory

It's not a theory, it is a fact.




respectmen -> RE: Is Male Disposability the Fault of Patriarchy? (8/2/2017 12:48:36 AM)

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And, as usual, you didn't understand a damn thing I said.


Well lets see. You said that the guys in the video do not know what they are talking about. The total irony that you miss is that the patriarchy blamers such as your self are really the ones that don't know what they're talking about as you are really following a blind path. You have no evidence, you have no citations, yet you still blindly believe. You can compare this to people preaching a space daddy. They've never seen the space daddy, never met the space daddy, have never been shown irrefutable evidence that the space daddy exist, yet they still blindly believe.

Patriarchy theory is based on faith and feelings, not fact. Just like religion. Sorry, but there are no invisible phantom patriarchy demons oppressing women and making men disposable. It only exist in the heads of the followers who are gullible enough to believe it. The patriarchy boogeyman is as real as the tooth fairy or santa claus the cunt.

Speaking of male disposability, lets talk about war. If male disposibility in war is the fault of patriarchy, how come female leaders who have started wars in the past didn't do any different to male leaders who started wars? Did the patriarchy make them do it?


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It's not a theory, it is a fact.


If it's a fact, fucking prove it for fucks sake. For all these years where I have had run ins with feminists, when I ask them to show irrefutable evidence that patriarchy is to blame for whatever they are blaming it on, there hasn't been one single time, not one, where I have been shown the said evidence which turns the assumption into fact.

Do you understand what a fact is? A fact is something that is provided by irrefutable evidence. Without the said irrefutable evidence, it can't be a fact. Therefore, it's downgraded to an assumption. It remains an assumption until it's proven as a fact, which of course, can only happen when you provide irrefutable evidence.

To consider something as a fact without seeing any evidence of it being a fact equals prejudice. And prejudice equals bigotry. In other words, anyone who claims patriarchy is the fault of anything is a sexist bigot.




tweakabelle -> RE: Is Male Disposability the Fault of Patriarchy? (8/2/2017 2:21:58 AM)

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ORIGINAL: respectmen



Patriarchy theory is based on faith and feelings, not fact.

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If it's a fact, fucking prove it for fucks sake.
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A fact is something that is provided by irrefutable evidence. Without the said irrefutable evidence, it can't be a fact. Therefore, it's downgraded to an assumption. It remains an assumption until it's proven as a fact, which of course, can only happen when you provide irrefutable evidence.

To consider something as a fact without seeing any evidence of it being a fact equals prejudice. And prejudice equals bigotry. In other words, anyone who claims patriarchy is the fault of anything is a sexist bigot.


Listen closely rm. Use your fingers to trace the words if that makes it any easier for you.

Patriarchy is the name given to the system or force that ensures males occupy, and excludes females from occupying the most powerful and/or most prestigious positions in just about every human society or field of endeavour. It is an irrefutable fact that almost all the most powerful and/or most prestigious positions in human societies are occupied by males, even though this is changing slowly in some places.

So patriarchy theory is NOT based on "feelings", nor is it an "assumption", as you falsely assert. It is based on the irrefutable fact I have just mentioned.

FWIW this meets all the criteria you set out to qualify as a "fact". And, again following the criteria you set, to deny this irrefutable fact would equate to prejudice, which you claim equates to bigotry. So, still using your logic, to deny that patriarchy, the system that places males in, and excludes females from almost all the most powerful and/or most prestigious positions, is a fact makes the denier a sexist bigot. Your words, your argument, your logic, not mine.

Please don't feel the need to thank me for bringing this irrefutable fact to your attention. I'm happy to help in this instance.




respectmen -> RE: Is Male Disposability the Fault of Patriarchy? (8/3/2017 10:51:53 PM)

Tweak

Oh crikey, where do I begin?

Feminists seem to be simplistic thinkers. They only see things in black and white while willfully ignoring the complexities. Take the wage gap theory for example.

One point that refutes a part of patriarchy theory alone is that every male does not think the same and every female does not think the same. Some women are anti feminists, others aren't. Some women are on the right, others are on the left. Men, vise versa. In today's world, lets look at two men, two people of the same gender. Donald Trump and Justin Trudeau. They share the same gender yet have totally opposite opinions.

So blaming certain mindsets, opinions on patriarchy is ludicrous. Such as the opinions on male disposability.

Patriarchy theory makes judgement depending what gender the person in a powerful position in society is, not the person's individuality and personal opinions. Having such a stance has more holes in it than a spaghetti strainer.

"Patriarchy" is meant to mean that men as a group hold power over women as a group. How can that be when women can be a president or PM or any one in a high status and powerful position in society? If it was REALLY a patriarchy, it would be against the law for women to be in such positions. If America was really a patriarchy, Hillary wouldn't have been allowed to run in the last election.

Oh but feminists claim that it's because evil patriarchy ghosts are keeping women down. That's feminists thinking black and white again. Could it be, I know, the different lifestyle choices females make compared to males due to them being the birth givers? I'm sure women having the womb and not men isn't the fault of patriarchy too. But nothing surprises me when it comes to feminism. But anyway, this is the reason why there are more males than females that are at the top of the game as they've had all that extra time to make it up there.

Only a small tiny subset of all men are in the elite positions, the other 99.9 percent of men are just as powerless as nearly all women. Is that a patriarchy? Far from it.


You didn't give me an irrefutable fact against my stance at all. All you rambled on about was that males hold most of the powerful positions.

Let's go back to what I said, I will quote myself.

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If it's a fact, fucking prove it for fucks sake. For all these years where I have had run ins with feminists, when I ask them to show irrefutable evidence that patriarchy is to blame for whatever they are blaming it on, there hasn't been one single time, not one, where I have been shown the said evidence which turns the assumption into fact.


As I said that feminists never show irrefutable evidence that patriarchy is to blame for whatever they are blaming it on, in this case, the blame is on male disposability. So my question is, can you show irrefutable evidence that patriarchy is to blame for the mindset of male disposability?

Just answering with "males hold all the powerful positions" doesn't refute anything. It doesn't answer the question. So instead of making a deflection, can you actually come up with irrefutable evidence that this is the fault of patriarchy? How do you know if male disposability wouldn't exist under matriarchy? How do you know if male disposability wouldn't exist under neither patriarchy or matriarchy? What? You don't know? How than can you still blame patriarchy?

There has been female leaders in the past that started wars. They didn't seem to care about male disposability. Strange how they are supposed to be in a patriarchy and yet they were leaders lol.

Yes, your patriarchy theory bullshit is based on prejudice and bigotry, NOT FACT, dumbass. You have no irrefutable evidence and you never will as what you are saying is a fantasy.




WickedsDesire -> RE: Is Male Disposability the Fault of Patriarchy? (8/3/2017 10:59:34 PM)

Did any of you watch the video? I did not for he bugs my tits and not an atom of reality

Chitty Chitty Bang Bang Theme Song
Obviously by you I meant anyone with an atoms worth of reality




tweakabelle -> RE: Is Male Disposability the Fault of Patriarchy? (8/4/2017 12:27:50 AM)

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tweakabelle
Patriarchy is the name given to the system or force that ensures males occupy, and excludes females from occupying the most powerful and/or most prestigious positions in just about every human society or field of endeavour. It is an irrefutable fact that almost all the most powerful and/or most prestigious positions in human societies are occupied by males, even though this is changing slowly in some places.

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ORIGINAL: respectmen
You didn't give me an irrefutable fact against my stance at all. All you rambled on about was that males hold most of the powerful positions.


The irrefutable fact I laid out for you is that patriarchy is based on the fact that almost all the most powerful and/or most prestigious positions are occupied by males, and that females are almost always excluded from them. This is an empirical fact.

If you wish to challenge this claim, them please do so supplying evidence to support your position. Evidence in this case would be details of societies where males are either excluded from power or don't hold the majority of the most powerful and/or most prestigious positions, or societies where females occupy the most powerful and/or most prestigious positions. No dissembling, no attempts to change the goalposts, no evasions thanks - just evidence to support your opposition to my claim.

There is about 200 countries in the world. Can you name one or more where females hold the most powerful and/or most prestigious positions? Or where males are systematically excluded from the most powerful and/or most prestigious positions? We both know that there is no such country in the world at the moment and never has been in recorded history. However if you know of an exception, or better still, exceptions to this rule, I'd love to hear about it/them ...

If you are either unable or unwilling to challenge this empirical fact, then you have no alternative but to agree that patriarchy theory is based on an empirical fact. Looking forward to your response.




WickedsDesire -> RE: Is Male Disposability the Fault of Patriarchy? (8/4/2017 12:31:33 AM)

How can you challenge no existence?

How does that work then?
teach me




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