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Trump now directly implicated in Russia scandal cover-up - 8/2/2017 3:17:49 PM   
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Yesterday at 12:10pm ·

We want to make sure everyone understands the importance of the story reported by The Washington Post last night. The Post describes a personal effort by Donald Trump to mislead the American people regarding the purpose of Don Jr.'s meeting with a Russian lawyer. Some of you have written to us saying "mislead" is just another way to say Trump lied. But this is more important than that.

From The Post:

"This latest story is clearly one of the most significant developments in this scandal to date, for two reasons. First, it describes an organized effort to mislead the public — not to spin, or minimize the story, or distract from it, or throw out wild accusations about someone else, but to intentionally fool everyone into believing something false. Second, it implicates the president himself."

https://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/plum-line/wp/2017/08/01/president-trump-is-now-directly-implicated-in-trying-to-cover-up-the-russia-scandal/?tid=sm_tw&utm_term=.3410b3f4131f

It's always the cover-up that gets 'em.
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RE: Trump now directly implicated in Russia scandal cov... - 8/2/2017 3:19:25 PM   
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Who saw this shit last fall?

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RE: Trump now directly implicated in Russia scandal cov... - 8/2/2017 3:30:08 PM   
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How can you cover up something that never happened ?

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RE: Trump now directly implicated in Russia scandal cov... - 8/2/2017 3:31:17 PM   
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WHY would you cover up something that never happened?

You'd have to be pretty fucking dumb.

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RE: Trump now directly implicated in Russia scandal cov... - 8/2/2017 3:35:11 PM   
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Oh Hell, I saw it back in 2012 the first time he ran.

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RE: More unnamed anonymous fake news bs - 8/2/2017 3:53:20 PM   
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According to the Washington Post, and it's secret unnamed anonymous source

Wow, what a surprise that the Washington Post is again using its only source, for its relentless attacks against the president who threatened the owner of the Washington Post with antitrust action

Doubly surprising to see you once again sucking it right up


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RE: Trump now directly implicated in Russia scandal cov... - 8/2/2017 3:57:24 PM   
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Reading comprehension.

Get your tutor to read it together with you.

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RE: More unnamed anonymous fake news bs - 8/2/2017 4:03:28 PM   
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Reading comprehension.

Get your tutor to read it together with you.


You're a moron.

Name the source, moose

You can't do it because there is no named source

This is exactly like every other "TRUMP!!! RUSSIA!!! " story that you scream about, goes exactly nowhere every time

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RE: More unnamed anonymous fake news bs - 8/2/2017 4:22:09 PM   
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According to the Washington Post, and it's secret unnamed anonymous source

Wow, what a surprise that the Washington Post is again using its only source, for its relentless attacks against the president who threatened the owner of the Washington Post with antitrust action

Doubly surprising to see you once again sucking it right up


How many times have you used anonymous sources?

Fucking hypocrite

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RE: Trump now directly implicated in Russia scandal cov... - 8/2/2017 4:23:49 PM   
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Reading comprehension, that article is pure opinion. Not one shred of hard evidence in it, just like everything else liberal pull out. You believe what you want to believe.

And I am no Trump supporter except for the fact that he is not Clinton.

And last but not least, what are you going to do about it ? Politicians lie all the time, and their staff and everyone around them frequently meet with foreigners.

You got nothing, that article has nothing. And you know what is going to happen - nothing. And spamming a kink site every time Trump takes a shit or makes a phone call is going to result in the same thing. Nothing. Now you're into his son or son in law making phone calls or meeting with foreigners. If that ain't clutching at straws I don't know what is.

I have problems with Trump, but they are real. Not invented. First of all the wall is not a good idea. I have already explained that. If Sessions goes after pot that is bad. His appointees come from the same banks that swindled this country in 2008. He changes his mind like underwear. He had a good relationship with Putin but now he is going to sign sanctions, albeit they are pretty much vetoproof. He tweets too much. He says stupid shit.

Next time don't run an autistic pimp and you probably won't have these problems. And no more of this boys can go to the girlsroom shit. And no more free immigration.

And sanctuary cities ? Send them ALL the immigrants so they can find out what kind of scum these other countries send. They are not sending their doctors and engineers. They are emptying out their prisons.

When the liberals learn a few of these lessons they will again be on top. People like liberals. Government assistance and such. The poor can vote. Now people with money will always not appreciate getting their pockets picked to pay for lowlife drug addicts and whatnot who can't get a job, or people from countries where it is OK to rape a 12 year old. so you liberals lose them no matter what.

You got until 2019 to find someone. If you can't do it by then, you are as pathetic as the republicans.

But keep spamming social media, by all means. It looks stupider and stupider every day.

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RE: More unnamed anonymous fake news bs - 8/2/2017 4:28:57 PM   
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How many times have you used anonymous sources?

Fucking hypocrite


In your insane chicken head, I'm the story...

Washington Post never has a source for these, and they never pan out

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RE: More unnamed anonymous fake news bs - 8/2/2017 4:48:00 PM   
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Washington Post never has a source for these, and they never pan out

Neither do your sources


Conservapedia.

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RE: More unnamed anonymous fake news bs - 8/2/2017 4:51:43 PM   
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ORIGINAL: Hillwilliam


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Washington Post never has a source for these, and they never pan out

Neither do your sources


Conservapedia.


Interesting how you attempt to debase Conservapedia, by claiming that Washington Post and Conservapedia are alike

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RE: More unnamed anonymous fake news bs - 8/2/2017 5:04:34 PM   
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ORIGINAL: BoscoX


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ORIGINAL: Hillwilliam


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Washington Post never has a source for these, and they never pan out

Neither do your sources


Conservapedia.


Interesting how you attempt to debase Conservapedia, by claiming that Washington Post and Conservapedia are alike

aren't they both shit?

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RE: More unnamed anonymous fake news bs - 8/2/2017 5:11:10 PM   
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aren't they both shit?


They are like night and day

Conservapedia is supposed to be bias and opinion, and that's okay. Nothing wrong with that

Washington Post was once a respected news organization though, and only fools trust them for real journalistic integrity today

When I cited Conservapedia before it was for the definition of a word that conservatives coined and that is defined by conservatives, I didn't cite them as a news organization

ManiacalMysery cites the Washington Post, purely for it's propaganda value

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RE: More unnamed anonymous fake news bs - 8/2/2017 5:57:07 PM   
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According to the Washington Post, and it's secret unnamed anonymous source

Wow, what a surprise that the Washington Post is again using its only source, for its relentless attacks against the president who threatened the owner of the Washington Post with antitrust action

Doubly surprising to see you once again sucking it right up


I think Alley Oop fell off his dinosaur when first charged with using anonymous sources.

I do know for a fact that Columbus kicked an Indian's ass for, yep, you got it...using anonymous sources.

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RE: Trump now directly implicated in Russia scandal cov... - 8/2/2017 6:26:20 PM   
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Trump himself validated the story saying he did it to protect his son as any father would do.... but he lied

His supporters are calling in to KMOX a conservative station in my area saying..." so what it was just a lie nothing illegal"... Is this what we want from a President someone who lies to the American people? I don't care if it was not illegal but i do care that it was a bold faced LIE.

Now wait for it... the nut case conservatives will try to say..." will Obama lied" as if that's an excuse for Trump... What happen to class and honor?

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RE: Trump now directly implicated in Russia scandal cov... - 8/2/2017 6:29:31 PM   
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That was my point -- the source isn't anonymous: it's Trump.

And if there's nothing wrong, what's the point of the cover-up?

I've said it before: IF there's nothing wrong here, he handled it very badly, making it appear that something was wrong.

And again...the source is Trump.

He's bungling moron at least.

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RE: More unnamed anonymous fake news bs - 8/2/2017 6:43:23 PM   
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Lets see the facts:

about his son's statement concerning his talks with the Russians:

“I do want to be clear that the president was not involved in the drafting of the statement and did not issue the statement.” — Sekulow on NBC News on July 16

“The president didn't sign off on anything. … The president wasn't involved in that.” — Sekulow on ABC News on July 12

But the truth was:

“The president weighed in as any father would, based on the limited information that he had.” — White House spokeswoman Sarah Huckabee Sanders, after The Washington Post reported that Trump had changed the statement at the last minute to be more misleading.

So, yes he did have something to do with the statement his son gave on his son's meetings with the Russians.

Of course, that is, according to Bosco, fake news, even though the facts were confirmed by the White House, it is still fake.

On the power of the president to give pardons:

“Pardons are not being discussed and are not on the table.” — Sekulow on July 21

Trump's own words via twitter:

While all agree the U.S. President has the complete power to pardon, why think of that is the only crime so far is LEAKS against us. FAKE NEWS.

So pardons were being discussed.

On the firing of FBI director Comey.

The denials

“No one from the White House. That was a DOJ decision.” — Sean Spicer on May 9

Asked whether Trump had already decided to fire Comey and asked Deputy Attorney General Rod J. Rosenstein and the Justice Department to craft a justification for it: “No.” — Huckabee Sanders on May 10

“He took the recommendation of his deputy attorney general, who oversees the FBI director. … He has lost confidence in the FBI director, and he took the recommendation of Rod J. Rosenstein.” — Kellyanne Conway on May 10

The confirmations

“I was going to fire Comey … Oh, I was going to fire regardless of recommendation.” — Trump on NBC News on May 11

“On May 8, I learned that President Trump intended to remove Director Comey and sought my advice and input.” — Rosenstein on May 19

Comey was fired because of the Russia investigation.

The denials

“That's not what — let me be clear with you — that was not what this is about. That's not what this is about.” — Vice President Pence on May 10

Rosenstein's memo contained no mention of the Russia investigation and instead focused on Comey's unusual announcements about the Hillary Clinton investigation during the 2016 campaign: “I cannot defend the Director's handling of the conclusion of the investigation of Secretary Clinton's emails, and I do not understand his refusal to accept the nearly universal judgment that he was mistaken.” — Rosenstein on May 9

“Based on my evaluation, and for the reasons expressed by the Deputy Attorney General in the attached memorandum, I have concluded that a fresh start is needed at the leadership of the FBI.” — Attorney General Jeff Sessions in a letter May 9

The confirmation

“And in fact, when I decided to just do it, I said to myself — I said, you know, this Russia thing with Trump and Russia is a made-up story.” — Trump to NBC on May 11

That Michael Flynn discussed sanctions with Russia's ambassador

The denial

“They did not discuss anything having to do with the United States’ decision to expel diplomats or impose censure against Russia. … What I can confirm, having spoken to him about it, is that those conversations that happened to occur around the time that the United States took action to expel diplomats had nothing whatsoever to do with those sanctions.” — Pence on Jan. 15

The confirmations

Asked whether Flynn discussed sanctions related to Russia's alleged 2016 election interference: “Right.” — Spicer on Feb. 14

“So just to be clear, the acting attorney general informed the White House counsel that they wanted to give, quote, 'a heads-up' to us on some comments that may have seemed in conflict with what he had said to the vice president in particular. … The issue, pure and simple, came down to a matter of trust, and the president concluded that he no longer had the trust of his national security adviser.” — Spicer on Feb. 14

“What I would tell you is that the vice president became aware of incomplete information that he'd received on February 9, last Thursday night, based on media accounts.” — Pence spokesman Marc Lotter

So, to put it bluntly, our esteemed President has, by his own admission and those of his staff, been lying through his teeth on just about everything he has called 'fake news' on the grounds that none of it ever happened.

Then he, or members of his staff, confirm that it did, in point of fact, happen as reported.

Now the real insanity in all of this is not in the actions of the President or his staff, but in those people, who even after the white house confirms the story as run, was indeed true and to the point, still claim that it is all 'fake news.'

I am of the opinion at this point that if God himself were to appear in the form of a burning bush (or burning New York Times or Washington Post building) and announce in a booming voice that Trump has been lying and misleading the American public, these same people would call it 'fake news' and that God was a liberal.

The fact is that every politician in Washington, and every president elected in the age of TV and electronic social media has lied to the American People, from the famous "I did not have sexual relations with that woman" to "I only fired the FBI director after advised to do so by the Attorney General."

Honesty has as much in common with American national politics as horse shit in a west Texas pasture has to do with the price of tea in China or how well Manchester United is playing this season.

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RE: Trump now directly implicated in Russia scandal cov... - 8/2/2017 7:38:19 PM   
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What happen to class and honor?



ummm, well... Trump has never had any to start with...

but for anyone without blinkers on, that was evident well before he was elected...

only another 7-1/2 years left to go... really, how much damage can he do in 8 years?

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