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jlf1961 -> RE: Eclipse marks apocalypse: Mystery planet Nibiru to collide with Earth (8/11/2017 4:29:59 PM)
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ORIGINAL: Nnanji
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ORIGINAL: Musicmystery
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The funny thing about the people who believe this shit and point to 'science' as proof seem to forget for a planet to get that close, the orbits of every planet in the solar system would be effected....
Like about 12 years prior to impact.
Fucking complete morons
Yep. More people who haven't a clue what science is or what it does.
And your actual experience with science is...?
Amateur astronomer, HAM radio operator
I have built, to date, have built a total of six optical telescopes (the last one was an 18 inch catadioptric telescope) and two homemade radio telescopes (not much of a challenge, just convert an one 1.3 meter home satellite dish and bingo you have a radio telescope)
Also, considering how long the Nibiru and Nemesis (the dark star companion to our sun) theories have been around, as well as the few thousand articles written on just why we would have known about them and their position long before now, and the simple fact that orbital physics in relation to the mass extinct events in earth's history is kind of a hobby, a lot.
Now while the possibility of a brown dwarf (or even a red dwarf) star as a companion to our sun has yet to be proved or disproved simply due to the fact that a star of either type is virtually invisible to optical telescopes, but there is a consensus that there is something nearby that seems to directly impact the kuiper belt every 12 million years or so, the planet Nibiru has been disproven and debunked every time it pops up.
As I said, the effects of a planetary mass moving into the elliptic plain of the solar system would have become known about 12 years ago, earlier if it were something along the lines of a gas giant, simply by the disturbance in the orbits of the known Kuiper belt objects, i.e a dramatic increase on the number of comets moving into the inner solar system.
Then the asteroids in eccentric orbits (those orbiting at an angle to the solar plain) would have been altered, increasing the chance of a repeat of the heavy bombardment epoch of earth's development.
Once that started happening, astronomers would have some idea of where to look for whatever was causing the disturbances (again orbital physics at work.)
Finally, if a planetary mass was close enough to hit us on the 21st of this month, we would be able to see it with the naked eye both at night and during the day, not to mention the tides would have gone through some extreme changes (figure a 30 foot high tide in Miami FL.)
Of course, the planets own gravity would be playing havoc with the earth in other ways, earthquakes, volcanoes erupting, new volcanoes where none existed before.
And when I mention earthquakes, figure a magnitude 12 quake in Buffalo NY as an example.
A good example of gravity induced earthquakes would be the activity on Jupiter's moon Io.
Oh, a last point, a planetary mass that close would have affected our own moon's orbit in some rather spectacular ways, along with the orbits of satellites and the ISS.
And for those making the claim that the reason we have not seen the oncoming planet is that it consists of Dark Matter, then all the disturbances to orbits as stated would have been going on but about 10000 times worse, since dark matter seems to have a hell of a lot more mass than normal matter, or say a thousand times heavier than the substance that makes up neutrino starts, which has the mass of the sun for every cubic inch.
Oh, and there is one more point.
A planet sized object made of dark matter in a near by orbit would have one other major effect.....
It would have prevented the planets of the solar system from forming since it would have stolen the stuff that made up the planets from the sun before any formed in the first place.
And there is one other, tiny bit of insignificant proof....
We detect extrasolar planets by the way they cause their parent stars to wobble.
Which means that even that far out, there would have been a difference in our own sun's behavior, not to mention all the planets in the solar system would have eccentric orbits.
Personally, I am leaning toward the dark stellar mass companion of our sun theory, which means that we are due to see an increase of newly discovered comets in the near future (say within the next 100 years.)
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