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Hillwilliam -> Is the fat fuck bluffing again about capabilities? (8/12/2017 5:08:16 PM)
https://www.yahoo.com/news/m/14454326-b0f3-3a4c-90c8-9e37aaa036bb/newsweek-exclusive%3A-north.html A certain rocket scientist seems to think he is and the NA mainland is NOT under threat. That's not to say that the little fat fuck won't be able to do damage in the future but.............

Lucylastic -> RE: Is the fat fuck bluffing again about capabilities? (8/12/2017 6:01:31 PM)
Whom are you speaking of?

Hillwilliam -> RE: Is the fat fuck bluffing again about capabilities? (8/12/2017 6:08:29 PM)
The leader of NK. Kim Jong asshole

thompsonx -> RE: Is the fat fuck bluffing again about capabilities? (8/12/2017 9:14:07 PM)
ORIGINAL: Hillwilliam The leader of NK. Kim Jong asshole Why do you think he is an asshole?

Marini -> RE: Is the fat fuck bluffing again about capabilities? (8/12/2017 9:39:28 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: thompsonx ORIGINAL: Hillwilliam The leader of NK. Kim Jong asshole Why do you think he is an asshole? Even you, can't have anything good to say about that raving lunatic asshole.

thompsonx -> RE: Is the fat fuck bluffing again about capabilities? (8/12/2017 10:26:33 PM)
ORIGINAL: Marini ORIGINAL: thompsonx The leader of NK. Kim Jong asshole Why do you think he is an asshole? Even you, can't have anything good to say about that raving lunatic asshole. Why do you think he is an asshole?

Marini -> RE: Is the fat fuck bluffing again about capabilities? (8/12/2017 10:28:11 PM)
Hummm, everything I have read about JK and his actions, all point to assholery.

thompsonx -> RE: Is the fat fuck bluffing again about capabilities? (8/12/2017 10:38:38 PM)
ORIGINAL: Marini Hummm, everything I have read about JK and his actions, all point to assholery. That is pretty much my point. I have read the same things. I have been told the news is fake. If the news is fake then how do I/we find out what is the 'truth' about him. Do you know anyone who is "all" bad? If you do not then how can this guy, that we do not even know, be "all" this or "all" that? Look at all the news stories about every war we have ever been in. In retrospect and with the access to records we know that we have been consistently lied to. How is this different?

Marini -> RE: Is the fat fuck bluffing again about capabilities? (8/12/2017 10:44:08 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: thompsonx ORIGINAL: Marini Hummm, everything I have read about JK and his actions, all point to assholery. That is pretty much my point. I have read the same things. I have been told the news is fake. If the news is fake then how do I/we find out what is the 'truth' about him. Do you know anyone who is "all" bad? If you do not then how can this guy, that we do not even know, be "all" this or "all" that? Look at all the news stories about every war we have ever been in. In retrospect and with the access to records we know that we have been consistently lied to. How is this different? Well, let's go with what you are saying. All news is fake, why are we even here discussing it?

thompsonx -> RE: Is the fat fuck bluffing again about capabilities? (8/12/2017 10:49:11 PM)
ORIGINAL: Marini Which war have we been in that we did not start or insinuate ourselves into? What part of amerika was not gained by force of arms or the threat there of? Which war have we been in that was not based on a lie? Seriously.

MrRodgers -> RE: Is the fat fuck bluffing again about capabilities? (8/12/2017 11:48:16 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: thompsonx ORIGINAL: Marini Hummm, everything I have read about JK and his actions, all point to assholery. That is pretty much my point. I have read the same things. I have been told the news is fake. If the news is fake then how do I/we find out what is the 'truth' about him. Do you know anyone who is "all" bad? If you do not then how can this guy, that we do not even know, be "all" this or "all" that? Look at all the news stories about every war we have ever been in. In retrospect and with the access to records we know that we have been consistently lied to. How is this different? Refugees have some pretty harrowing tales.

MrRodgers -> RE: Is the fat fuck bluffing again about capabilities? (8/12/2017 11:57:27 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: thompsonx ORIGINAL: Marini Which war have we been in that we did not start or insinuate ourselves into? What part of amerika was not gained by force of arms or the threat there of? Which war have we been in that was not based on a lie? Seriously. As far as WWII I might differ with you there at least somewhat. Suffice it say that in hindsight, Japan didn't need to attack Pearl, it was an almost complete tactical failure but felt forced into doing it by the US. We didn't really need to drop the bombs, it was tactical overkill and maybe a war crime which brings into question the definition of war crime...but felt forced into it by the Japanese. (Hitler declared war on us) As for whether the US didn't need to enter the war in Europe ? Yes, we did, if only because German technology (R & D) was way out there and the Nazis given certain few possible scenarios, could have controlled the world. After the west financed German war reparations and their economic comeback, it's likely they hadn't realized the monster they helped create.

tweakabelle -> RE: Is the fat fuck bluffing again about capabilities? (8/13/2017 1:49:27 AM)
I posted this on another thread but it seems just as relevant here: It's very easy to dismiss Kim as 'batshit crazy' but I am not sure it's a clever thing to do. Kim, with his ridiculous haircut and those awful suits might look the part to us, but remember he's playing to a domestic audience, not us. From a North Korean perspective his actions make a lot of sense. Their goal is regime survival and he doesn't have many cards to play with. There's no economy to speak of, he has no friends outside of the country and probably a lot of ambitious underlings he needs to keep in check. Keeping the US=bad guy thing happening is not that different to the paranoia of Trump's singling out Muslims and Mexicans as foreign enemies who want to intrude into the sacred national space. It keeps the country united behind him, and offers the possibility of eventually getting a Peace and Non-Aggression Pact which would ensure his and the country's survival for a while. Not to mention lots of financial sweeteners to make sure the deal sticks. He sees nuclear weapons as the ultimate guarantee of his and NK's survival. And he is very mindful of what happened to other dictators with nuclear ambitions who gave up their nuclear option without a fight - Ghaddafi Saddam Hussein ..... they're all dead now. There's method in his madness, so don't be quick to dismiss it. The North Koreans have perfected the art of brinkmanship, but haven't allowed things to boil over into full on conflict for over half a century. And don't forget that from where he sits, Trump is just as crazy ... and there are lots of level headed Westerners who share that particular opinion. Another poster pointed out that some people think Kim's image is deliberately styled to resemble his father's and grandfather's appearance. His grandfather is eulogised as the 'Father of the Country', which counts for a lot in a hierarchical, traditional Confucian society like North Korea.

PeonForHer -> RE: Is the fat fuck bluffing again about capabilities? (8/13/2017 2:39:13 AM)
quote: It's very easy to dismiss Kim as 'batshit crazy' but I am not sure it's a clever thing to do. That's a pretty common view amongst the pundits, it seems. Well ... good.

thompsonx -> RE: Is the fat fuck bluffing again about capabilities? (8/13/2017 4:15:01 AM)
ORIGINAL: MrRodgers Refugees have some pretty harrowing tales. Wasn't there a documentary about that? I think it was called "wag the dog"

thompsonx -> RE: Is the fat fuck bluffing again about capabilities? (8/13/2017 4:26:51 AM)
ORIGINAL: MrRodgers As far as WWII I might differ with you there at least somewhat. Suffice it say that in hindsight, Japan didn't need to attack Pearl, it was an almost complete tactical failure but felt forced into doing it by the US. There is more than sufficient evidence to indicate that we knew well in advance of the pearl harbor attack. We didn't really need to drop the bombs, it was tactical overkill and maybe a war crime which brings into question the definition of war crime...but felt forced into it by the Japanese. Actually it was the russian invasion of the mainland of japan that prompted truman to drop the bomb. (Hitler declared war on us) As for whether the US didn't need to enter the war in Europe ? Yes, we did, if only because German technology (R & D) was way out there and the Nazis given certain few possible scenarios, could have controlled the world. Before the japs bombed pearl harbor...before amerika was even in the war the russians had beaten the germans at the gates of Moscow...Germany never had a chance in hell of winning that war.

thompsonx -> RE: Is the fat fuck bluffing again about capabilities? (8/13/2017 4:31:32 AM)
ORIGINAL: tweakabelle I posted this on another thread but it seems just as relevant here: It's very easy to dismiss Kim as 'batshit crazy' but I am not sure it's a clever thing to do. Kim, with his ridiculous haircut and those awful suits might look the part to us, but remember he's playing to a domestic audience, not us. We find it most instructive that haircut and clothes and not policy are the major objections to kim. From a North Korean perspective his actions make a lot of sense. Their goal is regime survival and he doesn't have many cards to play with. There's no economy to speak of, Google could disabuse you of your ignorance in this area. he has no friends outside of the country He seems pretty chummy with china a iran. and probably a lot of ambitious underlings he needs to keep in check. Supposition not supported by evidence.

BoscoX -> RE: Is the fat fuck bluffing again about capabilities? (8/13/2017 4:56:30 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: Marini quote: ORIGINAL: thompsonx ORIGINAL: Hillwilliam The leader of NK. Kim Jong asshole Why do you think he is an asshole? Even you, can't have anything good to say about that raving lunatic asshole. The left literally hates so much that yes, they support our enemies.

thompsonx -> RE: Is the fat fuck bluffing again about capabilities? (8/13/2017 5:02:33 AM)
ORIGINAL: BoscoX The left literally hates so much that yes, they support our enemies. What sort of fool believes his enemies are everyone's enemies?

PeonForHer -> RE: Is the fat fuck bluffing again about capabilities? (8/13/2017 5:10:51 AM)
quote: From a North Korean perspective his actions make a lot of sense. Their goal is regime survival and he doesn't have many cards to play with. There's no economy to speak of, Google could disabuse you of your ignorance in this area. Are you talking about the economy? It's growing, certainly, indeed at a record rate presently, but "North Korea's people are among the world's poorest with per capita gross national income standing at 1.5 million won ($1136; £874) a year. South Korea's per capita income is more than twenty times that." http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-40679333

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