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A twat who isn't anything to do with el presidente... - 8/17/2017 8:52:18 AM   
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This is glorious: a transcript of comments from some of the 200 odd jurors who were deemed unsuitable to sit in judgement on Martin Shkreli during his fraud trial last year. From Harpers.

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From the jury selection process that took place over three days in June for the trial of Martin Shkreli, an investor and hedge fund founder who is facing eight counts of securities and wire fraud. In 2015, when Shkreli was CEO of Turing Pharmaceuticals, the company raised the price of its drug Daraprim by 5,000 percent. In 2016, Shkreli was widely criticized for defending the 400 percent increase in the price of EpiPen, an emergency allergy injection sold by Mylan. More than two hundred potential jurors were excused from the trial. Judge Kiyo Matsumoto presided. Benjamin Brafman is a lawyer representing Shkreli.

the court: The purpose of jury selection is to ensure fairness and impartiality in this case. If you think that you could not be fair and impartial, it is your duty to tell me. All right. Juror Number 1.

juror no. 1: I’m aware of the defendant and I hate him.

benjamin brafman: I’m sorry.

juror no. 1: I think he’s a greedy little man.

the court: Jurors are obligated to decide the case based only on the evidence. Do you agree?

juror no. 1: I don’t know if I could. I wouldn’t want me on this jury.

the court: Juror Number 1 is excused. Juror Number 18.

juror no. 18: Both of my parents are on prescriptions that have gone up over the past few months, so much that they can’t afford their drugs. I have several friends who have H.I.V. or AIDS who, again, can’t afford the prescription drugs that they were able to afford.

the court: These charges don’t concern drug pricing. Could you decide this case based only on the evidence —

juror no. 18: No. No.

the court: — presented at this trial and put aside anything you might have heard in the media?

juror no. 18: No. No.

the court: Sir, we are going to excuse you from this panel. Juror Number 25, come forward, please.

juror no. 25: This is the price-gouging, right, of drugs?

the court: This case has nothing to do with drugs.

juror no. 25: My kids use those drugs.

the court: As I said, the case does not concern anything that you might have read or heard about the pricing of certain pharmaceuticals.

juror no. 25: It affects my opinion of him.

the court: I am going to excuse you. Juror Number 40. Come on up, sir.

juror no. 40: I’m taking prescription medication. I would be upset if it went up by a thousand percent. I saw the testimony on TV to Congress and I saw his face on the news last night. By the time I came in and sat down and he turned around, I felt immediately I was biased.

the court: Sir, we are going to excuse you. Juror Number 47, please come up.

juror no. 47: He’s the most hated man in America. In my opinion, he equates with Bernie Madoff with the drugs for pregnant women going from $15 to $750. My parents are in their eighties. They’re struggling to pay for their medication. My mother was telling me yesterday how my father’s cancer drug is $9,000 a month.

the court: The case is going to come before you on evidence that you must consider fairly and with an open mind.

juror no. 47: I would find that difficult.

the court: And that’s based on your parents’ experience with medication?

juror no. 47: It’s based on people working very hard for their money. He defrauded his company and his investors, and that’s not right.

the court: Ma’am, we’re going to excuse you. Juror Number 52, how are you?

juror no. 52: When I walked in here today I looked at him, and in my head, that’s a snake — not knowing who he was. I just walked in and looked right at him and that’s a snake.

brafman: So much for the presumption of innocence.

the court: We will excuse Juror Number 52. Juror Number 67?

juror no. 67: The fact that he raised the price of that AIDS medication, like, such an amount of money disgusts me. I don’t think I’ll ever be able to forget that. Who does that, puts profit and self-interest ahead of anything else? So it’s not a far stretch that he could do what he’s accused of.

the court: Please go to the jury room and tell them you have been excused. Juror Number 70.

juror no. 70: I have total disdain for the man. When you go back to how he was able to put so many children —

the court: You have negative feelings?

juror no. 70: Very.

the court: Would those feelings prevent you from being fair to both sides in this case?

juror no. 70: I can be fair to one side but not the other.

the court: We will excuse you from this jury. Juror Number 77.

juror no. 77: From everything I’ve seen on the news, everything I’ve read, I believe the defendant is the face of corporate greed in America.

brafman: We would object.

juror no. 77: You’d have to convince me he was innocent rather than guilty.

the court: I will excuse this juror. Hello, Juror Number 125.

juror no. 125: I’ve read extensively about Martin’s shameful past and his ripping off sick people and it hits close to me. I have a mother with epilepsy, a grandmother with Alzheimer’s, and a brother with multiple sclerosis. I think somebody that’s dealt in those things deserves to go to jail.

the court: Just to be clear, he’s not being charged with anything relating to the pricing of pharmaceuticals.

juror no. 125: I understand that, but I already sense the man is guilty.

the court: Well, I’m going to excuse you. Juror Number 144, tell us what you have heard.

juror no. 144: I heard through the news of how the defendant changed the price of a pill by up-selling it. I heard he bought an album from the Wu-Tang Clan for a million dollars.

the court: The question is, have you heard anything that would affect your ability to decide this case with an open mind. Can you do that?

juror no. 144: I don’t think I can because he kind of looks like a dick.

the court: You are Juror Number 144 and we will excuse you. Come forward, Juror Number 155.

juror no. 155: I have read a lot of articles about the case. I think he is as guilty as they come.

the court: Then I will excuse you from this case. Juror Number 10, please come forward.

juror no. 10: The only thing I’d be impartial about is what prison this guy goes to.

the court: Okay. We will excuse you. Juror 28, do you need to be heard?

juror no. 28: I don’t like this person at all. I just can’t understand why he would be so stupid as to take an antibiotic which H.I.V. people need and jack it up five thousand percent. I would honestly, like, seriously like to go over there —

the court: Sir, thank you.

juror no. 28: Is he stupid or greedy? I can’t understand.

the court: We will excuse you. Juror 41, are you coming up?

juror no. 41: I was looking yesterday in the newspaper and I saw the defendant. There was something about him. I can’t be fair. There was something that didn’t look right.

the court: All right. I’m going to excuse you. Juror Number 59, come on up.

juror no. 59: Your Honor, totally he is guilty and in no way can I let him slide out of anything because —

the court: Okay. Is that your attitude toward anyone charged with a crime who has not been proven guilty?

juror no. 59: It’s my attitude toward his entire demeanor, what he has done to people.

the court: All right. We are going to excuse you, sir.

juror no. 59: And he disrespected the Wu-Tang Clan.


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RE: A twat who isn't anything to do with el presidente... - 8/17/2017 9:20:22 AM   
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quote:

ORIGINAL: WhoreMods
This is glorious: a transcript of comments from some of the 200 odd jurors who were deemed unsuitable to sit in judgement on Martin Shkreli during his fraud trial last year. From Harpers.


They are going to have a very difficult time finding enough impartial jurors.

But, if you look at it another way, if he's guaranteed a jury of his peers (his "equals"), wouldn't his jury be filled with greedy snake CEO's?


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RE: A twat who isn't anything to do with el presidente... - 8/17/2017 10:00:36 AM   
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In a way it's a shame all these jurors were excused. Better if they had all simply said, "Yeah sure, I can be impartial about this guy," and then all found him guilty, guilty, guilty. Some people are so low they really deserve to be treated as they have treated others.

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RE: A twat who isn't anything to do with el presidente... - 8/17/2017 10:04:07 AM   
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But, if you look at it another way, if he's guaranteed a jury of his peers (his "equals"), wouldn't his jury be filled with greedy snake CEO's?

Only to those who are terminally stupid and do not speak english.

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RE: A twat who isn't anything to do with el presidente... - 8/17/2017 10:06:29 AM   
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In a way it's a shame all these jurors were excused. Better if they had all simply said, "Yeah sure, I can be impartial about this guy," and then all found him guilty, guilty, guilty. Some people are so low they really deserve to be treated as they have treated others.


A scammer who steals your money is in need of a "packed" jury while nazis and klansmen need safe space where they can spew their hate????
Jesus you are phoquing stupid.


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RE: A twat who isn't anything to do with el presidente... - 8/17/2017 10:18:38 AM   
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Completely different issues.
If you support the Constitution, especially the Bill of Rights, then you have to support the right of the KKK or anyone else to assemble and speak, whether you agree with them or not. I don't, but somehow in your mind my support of their legal rights equates to my support of their philosophy. I wish you would stop speaking for me when I have never said I agree with them or their purpose.
Even though I do believe in a fair and impartial justice system, this particular guy is a special case. He has basically deprived a great number of people from the means to stay alive, all in the name of excessive greed. Unfortunately that isn't what he is being charged with, so the justice system has already failed.

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RE: A twat who isn't anything to do with el presidente... - 8/17/2017 10:28:54 AM   
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Completely different issues.


Only in the mind of a facist apologist.


If you support the Constitution, especially the Bill of Rights, then you have to support the right of the KKK or anyone else to
assemble and speak, whether you agree with them or not. I don't, but somehow in your mind my support of their legal
rights equates to my support of their philosophy. I wish you would stop speaking for me when I have never said I agree
with them or their purpose.


Please show me the law that says you have the right to incite a riot.



Even though I do believe in a fair and impartial justice system,

Your following statement gives lie to your first statement.

this particular guy is a special case. He has basically deprived a great number of people from the means to stay alive, all in the name of excessive greed. Unfortunately that isn't what he is being charged with, so the justice system has already failed.


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RE: A twat who isn't anything to do with el presidente... - 8/17/2017 10:45:47 AM   
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quote:

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They are going to have a very difficult time finding enough impartial jurors.

But, if you look at it another way, if he's guaranteed a jury of his peers (his "equals"), wouldn't his jury be filled with greedy snake CEO's?


They can probably find an excuse to weasel out of being called to do jury service in the first place, I suspect.

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RE: A twat who isn't anything to do with el presidente... - 8/17/2017 1:13:07 PM   
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Why do they use American businessman and former hedge fund manager crooked cunt pyramid scheme in the one line. makes no sense, save the later part with some handsome modifications. Anyway I only saw Runaway Jury for the first time ever 2 years ago - was probably a book too.

Why are they able to reject 200 Jurors? Granted i piddled myself

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RE: A twat who isn't anything to do with el presidente... - 8/18/2017 4:07:09 AM   
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Why do they use American businessman and former hedge fund manager crooked cunt pyramid scheme in the one line. makes no sense, save the later part with some handsome modifications. Anyway I only saw Runaway Jury for the first time ever 2 years ago - was probably a book too.

Why are they able to reject 200 Jurors? Granted i piddled myself

Christ tell me is wasnt a grism book -John Grisham's

It happens a lot over there, particularly if the accused's counsel wants to make it look like he's doing something to earn his fee before the trial starts. People with a serious media profile or previous appearances in the news for other crimes can take a while to find twelve jurors who'll even pretend not to have prejudged the case. How many people do you think they vetoed before they found the twelve wusses who found Jacko innocent because they were terrified of the lynch mob of freaks lurking outside the court?
(Though it is hard not to suspect that word might have percolated through the queue in this case and people had got wise that if they sounded biased then they wouldn't be called.)

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