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RE: The number of snowflakes in Britain hits critical mass - 8/23/2017 3:28:34 AM   
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I NEVER understood, even growing up here, how such pride in being ill-mannered and uncultured could ever be a cause celebre.

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It appears to be a fetish for some, a proof of strength and virility.

Those people, however, just show their lack of social skills.


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RE: The number of snowflakes in Britain hits critical mass - 8/23/2017 7:23:04 AM   
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"Writing in the Guardian, Saunders said: “Left unchallenged, even low-level offending can subsequently fuel the kind of dangerous hostility that has been plastered across our media in recent days. That is why countering it is a priority for the CPS."

Don't they have any antifa fascists to handle that?

Once again, the USA leads the world.


Pay attention to world news a bit more. Antifa is not a U.S. alone phenomenon. i.e. The Antifa riots in Hamburg, Germany.

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RE: The number of snowflakes in Britain hits critical mass - 8/23/2017 8:01:09 AM   
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https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Generation_Snowflake#Background
    The term "snowflake" has been used to refer to children raised by their parents in ways that give them an inflated sense of their own uniqueness.


"an inflated sense of their own uniqueness"? Really, wiki?

But your point stands, as has been proven out.

An inflated sense of 'the individual' beats the crap out uniqueness any day, right?

The blunt instrument of unaware individualism.

Even minimal cognizance of the rest of the world (anymore than 20'/6 meters away) is 'weakness,' right?





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RE: The number of snowflakes in Britain hits critical mass - 8/23/2017 11:00:21 AM   
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ORIGINAL: DesideriScuri
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Generation_Snowflake#Background
    The term "snowflake" has been used to refer to children raised by their parents in ways that give them an inflated sense of their own uniqueness.

"an inflated sense of their own uniqueness"? Really, wiki?
But your point stands, as has been proven out.
An inflated sense of 'the individual' beats the crap out uniqueness any day, right?
The blunt instrument of unaware individualism.
Even minimal cognizance of the rest of the world (anymore than 20'/6 meters away) is 'weakness,' right?


Sounds like someone is a bit butthurt over Wiki opposing him.

I did not disagree that the term snowflake didn't start as describing uniqueness, did I? All I did was point out that - since the mid/late 1990's - the term has also assumed a different connotation.

If you can discredit that Wiki entry, feel free.

https://en.oxforddictionaries.com/definition/snowflake
    quote:

    2. informal, derogatory An overly sensitive or easily offended person, or one who believes they are entitled to special treatment on account of their supposedly unique characteristics.


Is the Oxford Dictionary a better cite, or.....?


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RE: The number of snowflakes in Britain hits critical mass - 8/23/2017 11:43:05 AM   
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The latest bout of insanity from the socialist utopia that is modern Britain: https://www.theguardian.com/society/2017/aug/21/cps-to-crack-down-on-social-media-hate-says-alison-saunders

I expect all Brits in this forum to start being a lot more pleasant to everyone - lest we be forced to report you to your own CPS and have you brought up on hate crime charges.

In Britain, harsh language is now the same as assault. And the CPS will now be prosecuting opinions.

This is the classic thoughtcrime rationale of the Party. And it is no way hyperbolic to call this Orwellian. It is exactly the realisation of the template laid bare by Orwell in his writings.

Welcome to 1984, you socialist nutbars.


Wow, seriously?


Do you like where we are going?

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RE: The number of snowflakes in Britain hits critical mass - 8/23/2017 12:28:22 PM   
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Status: offline 		I didn't question the cite, nor the veracity of it in terms of its own explanation.

Sorry you missed it (not that I'm surprised), but the point is that there wasn't a counterpart by way of any explanation of "children raised by their parents in ways that give them an inflated sense of their own individualism."

But while we're here, is this the time and place to point out the historically anti-worker "liberal media"?

PS

I have a record of five correction contributions to wiki, to this point. I'm not even going to bother with anything as irrelevant as soft headed allusions to 'snowflake.' Look up Harry Nillson. "Lime in the Coconut" was indeed backed by a C7, all the way through, so I shut up the stupid ass who said [citation needed] and told him that if he had to ask . . .

It was obvious that the challenger had no clue what a C7 chord sounded like to begin with, just as you and others don't have a clue when I'm talking about economics and how it affects society, either.

If you actually wanted to learn something, I could go with it.

But as I learned in Jr. HS, the guys having no interest in learning threw peanuts and shot spitballs, so here we are. Sad to see somebody still that way, so far into adulthood.



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RE: The number of snowflakes in Britain hits critical mass - 8/23/2017 1:58:04 PM   
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ORIGINAL: Edwird

I didn't question the cite, nor the veracity of it in terms of its own explanation.

Sorry you missed it (not that I'm surprised), but the point is that there wasn't a counterpart by way of any explanation of "children raised by their parents in ways that give them an inflated sense of their own individualism."

But while we're here, is this the time and place to point out the historically anti-worker "liberal media"?

PS

I have a record of five correction contributions to wiki, to this point. I'm not even going to bother with anything as irrelevant as soft headed allusions to 'snowflake.' Look up Harry Nillson. "Lime in the Coconut" was indeed backed by a C7, all the way through, so I shut up the stupid ass who said [citation needed] and told him that if he had to ask . . .

It was obvious that the challenger had no clue what a C7 chord sounded like to begin with, just as you and others don't have a clue when I'm talking about economics and how it affects society, either.

If you actually wanted to learn something, I could go with it.

But as I learned in Jr. HS, the guys having no interest in learning threw peanuts and shot spitballs, so here we are. Sad to see somebody still that way, so far into adulthood.



Edweird, while I don't doubt that you had your share of peanuts and spitballs thrown at you, unfortunately it happens to kids that ride the short bus, those other boys learned how to socialize normally. You, on the other hand, this:

https://socialtriggers.com/the-big-problem-with-big-words-hint-they-make-you-look-stupid/


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RE: The number of snowflakes in Britain hits critical mass - 8/23/2017 2:33:36 PM   
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Status: offline 		Thanks for the tip.

So, when matriculating (oh shot! a "big word"!) to a university, don't use any words bigger than five letters or two sylables. Got it.

That's the sort of thing these higher-paying jobs look for.


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RE: The number of snowflakes in Britain hits critical mass - 8/23/2017 3:24:04 PM   
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Hi A,

Just to say: I've noticed your thread and read your OP.

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RE: The number of snowflakes in Britain hits critical mass - 8/23/2017 3:48:32 PM   
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ORIGINAL: BoscoX


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ORIGINAL: Marini


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ORIGINAL: Awareness

The latest bout of insanity from the socialist utopia that is modern Britain: https://www.theguardian.com/society/2017/aug/21/cps-to-crack-down-on-social-media-hate-says-alison-saunders

I expect all Brits in this forum to start being a lot more pleasant to everyone - lest we be forced to report you to your own CPS and have you brought up on hate crime charges.

In Britain, harsh language is now the same as assault. And the CPS will now be prosecuting opinions.

This is the classic thoughtcrime rationale of the Party. And it is no way hyperbolic to call this Orwellian. It is exactly the realisation of the template laid bare by Orwell in his writings.

Welcome to 1984, you socialist nutbars.


Wow, seriously?


Do you like where we are going?


Of course I don't like where we are going, everything is a mess.

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RE: The number of snowflakes in Britain hits critical mass - 8/23/2017 10:30:44 PM   
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ORIGINAL: Edwird
I didn't question the cite, nor the veracity of it in terms of its own explanation.
Sorry you missed it (not that I'm surprised), but the point is that there wasn't a counterpart by way of any explanation of "children raised by their parents in ways that give them an inflated sense of their own individualism."


Sooooo, you weren't questioning the veracity of the cite, but you did question the cite itself ("Really, wiki?"), which is typically done more to imply the actual information isn't accurate. Why would you question the cite ("Really, wiki?") if you don't disagree with the information presented?

There doesn't need to be any counterpart or explanation. That's one way the word is being used.

quote:

But while we're here, is this the time and place to point out the historically anti-worker "liberal media"?


You don't need my permission.

quote:

PS
I have a record of five correction contributions to wiki, to this point. I'm not even going to bother with anything as irrelevant as soft headed allusions to 'snowflake.' Look up Harry Nillson. "Lime in the Coconut" was indeed backed by a C7, all the way through, so I shut up the stupid ass who said [citation needed] and told him that if he had to ask . . .
It was obvious that the challenger had no clue what a C7 chord sounded like to begin with, just as you and others don't have a clue when I'm talking about economics and how it affects society, either.
If you actually wanted to learn something, I could go with it.
But as I learned in Jr. HS, the guys having no interest in learning threw peanuts and shot spitballs, so here we are. Sad to see somebody still that way, so far into adulthood.


Wow! He has a record of 5 corrected contributions to Wiki! Everything he says must be true!!!

I'm thinking it's more likely we simply disagree on your analysis of how economics plays out in society.


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RE: The number of snowflakes in Britain hits critical mass - 8/24/2017 9:44:28 PM   
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Status: offline 		Once you have demonstrated the slightest clue in understanding of economics or any other social science, I'm all ears.

And you're damn right I have a better notion of how economics plays out in society.

Whereas you've yet to display any notion or concern at all about society to begin with.

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RE: The number of snowflakes in Britain hits critical mass - 8/24/2017 11:00:18 PM   
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Once you have demonstrated the slightest clue in understanding of economics or any other social science, I'm all ears.
And you're damn right I have a better notion of how economics plays out in society.
Whereas you've yet to display any notion or concern at all about society to begin with.


Then you don't know how to read.


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RE: The number of snowflakes in Britain hits critical mass - 8/25/2017 12:36:04 AM   
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Status: offline 		I think that my record at the uni and commendations from various instructors who have read my laboriously written papers disagree with your facile commentary.

So tell us again what first clue you have about economics to begin with, much less how it fits into society.


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RE: The number of snowflakes in Britain hits critical mass - 8/25/2017 12:53:26 AM   
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It's social sciences, and we come at it from different angles. But it's still social sciences, which means that we (amoungst us) have some notion of society as civilization to begin with.

I admit that I'm not the best representative, not the best example of civilization myself, actually. But one thing that economics has taught me, this being mostly beyond the classroom, is that not everybody is perfectly placed.

(exculpatory evidence)

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RE: The number of snowflakes in Britain hits critical mass - 8/25/2017 8:45:50 AM   
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ORIGINAL: DesideriScuri

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ORIGINAL: Edwird
The dumbass doesn't even know how the term 'snowflake' ever came about in the first place, not surprising.
Howevermuch he deludes himself else wise, the term was originally and thereafter to purpose of explaining individuality, not fragility. It was the dullwits who took their misinterpretation and ran with it.
The purposeful misinterpretation was soley to reach out to idiots like you and thousands of others like you.
Oooh!. You have no answer, sorry/not for you.


https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Generation_Snowflake#Background
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    The term "snowflake" has been used to refer to children raised by their parents in ways that give them an inflated sense of their own uniqueness. This usage of "snowflake" has been reported to originate from Chuck Palahniuk's 1996 novel Fight Club, and its 1999 film adaptation. Both the novel and the film include the line "You are not special. You are not a beautiful and unique snowflake." In January 2017, Palahniuk claimed credit for coining this usage of "snowflake", adding "Every generation gets offended by different things but my friends who teach in high school tell me that their students are very easily offended". Palahniuk referred to the young adults of the 2010s as exhibiting "a kind of new Victorianism.” According to Merriam-Webster, Palahniuk was not the first person to use the metaphor saying, "It's the stuff of self-help books and inspirational posters and elementary school assurances. The imagery before negation is lovely; we are each unique snowflakes, each worth treasuring because each is uniquely beautiful", furthering "Palahniuk's denial of the individual's snowflake status struck a chord."


Regardless of how a word gets it's start, usage is king. Once a meaning is conveyed by a word or phrase across a large enough population, that word will not ever likely lose that 'definition,' no matter how much it differs from the original usage.



Just this morning on my FB page, a friend who is a father of two daughters, twins, that are freshmen in high school and a daughter in junior high asked the public if he was over reacting to the girls using the term "butthurt" as he said in his generation the term implies painful anal sex. He was roundly voted down by his neighbors. I found the discussion interesting in that clearly both I and the father had been passed by with the current usage that seems to now be king.

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RE: The number of snowflakes in Britain hits critical mass - 8/25/2017 10:17:20 AM   
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Now FTW means "For The Win."

Every once in awhile, change actually works For The Better.

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RE: The number of snowflakes in Britain hits critical mass - 8/25/2017 10:37:35 AM   
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ORIGINAL: Edwird
I think that my record at the uni and commendations from various instructors who have read my laboriously written papers disagree with your facile commentary.
So tell us again what first clue you have about economics to begin with, much less how it fits into society.


You must have lost the ability after uni, or at some point in time here.

You say I have no understanding of economics or social science? Prove your assertion. I passed all my econ and social science classes for my undergraduate degree, so, apparently, I have at least some.


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RE: The number of snowflakes in Britain hits critical mass - 8/25/2017 10:44:15 AM   
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ORIGINAL: DesideriScuri

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ORIGINAL: Edwird
I think that my record at the uni and commendations from various instructors who have read my laboriously written papers disagree with your facile commentary.
So tell us again what first clue you have about economics to begin with, much less how it fits into society.


You must have lost the ability after uni, or at some point in time here.

You say I have no understanding of economics or social science? Prove your assertion. I passed all my econ and social science classes for my undergraduate degree, so, apparently, I have at least some.


In prior threads Ed has touted that his three semesters of accounting at the "uni" opened his eyes to the world. When I recount his opinions to one friend that is a CPA with a master's in accounting and another friend who teaches accounting at a "uni", they scoff. Go figure.

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