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BoscoX -> RE: The Left's War On Free Speech Continues (8/25/2017 8:46:51 PM)


You're being called a howler because you went off the deep end over a harmless little CNN video, and started throwing insults around just like every other leftard on here who cannot discuss a topic - and proved that a howler and an idiot is exactly what you are

[:)]




Nnanji -> RE: The Left's War On Free Speech Continues (8/25/2017 8:53:02 PM)


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ORIGINAL: Danemora


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ORIGINAL: Nnanji


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ORIGINAL: Danemora

What does political correctness have to do with the fact that you think 6 people is an adequate sample size. You are hilarious, Bosco. A true riot

While I haven't watched the video, I live off grid and only have limited cell service to power my iPad, I have to agree with Bosco. It's a phenomon that people on the left just don't understand. For the last three or four decades the left has controlled all discussion politically by enforcing PC rules of conversation. I personally can relate my share of stories where've been threatened to be fired from employment if I said certain things.

Trump was, in my opinion, elected because he refused the PC dictates. The fact that a panel would stand up to established news sources and deny their required PC dictates is completely new and unestablished territory. To people like me, who've had speech chilled in order to work at a job, it is a big deal.




Ninja, Ill be honest...PC speech annoys the living shit out of me. And as I said in a few places, I was hopeful about Trump.

But to be honest, things are an absolute mess here in the US. And no, its not all Trump's fault. He's just doing business as usual in politics. Its been going on for a long time. Longer than him and the last I dont know how many Presidents.

All Im trying to explain to Bosco is that it isnt absolutes. Left leaners arent all like he portrays those of us who are to be. That is all. And Im getting called a "howler" and "an idiot" for saying so.

I think you've neglected a couple of things. For instance the concept of "hate crimes" where actual anti-PC speech can put you in jail. Or, as I've said, I have more than one story where I've been told not to speak or lose my job. I don't find it unreasonable for someone living under that oppression to feel "liberated" under Trump and to fling it back at "perceived" oppressors. Some day let me tell you about the black, female affirmative action officer that walked the corridors of my employ. Some day let me tell you about the only people that really saw how terrible I was used by the PC police were the lesbians in the organization. Some day let me tell you about how I was sent to classes to,learn how terrible I was because I was a white male. Some day let me tell you about how my employ illegally "worked around" hiring qualified people in order to illegally hire unqualified people. Some day let me tell you about how my employ illigally planned to hire unqualified contractors for millions of tax payer dollars in order to be politically correct...and...politically righteous. And on and on for thirty years of professional employ.




Danemora -> RE: The Left's War On Free Speech Continues (8/25/2017 8:57:49 PM)

I neglected to bring up things that hadnt been introduced into conversation? Truth be told, I was only replying yo Bosco...not spinning the conversation off into tangents. And no, that isnt a criticism of you. But if Im only responding to one thing being said, I tend to stick to just what Im replying to.

If I support free speech (which I do), I DO NOT support people being locked up for speaking theor mind. I dont have to like what someone has to say. But if I want my right to free speech, I have to extend that same courtesy to everyone else.

As Ive been trying to say repeatedly, it goes beyond absolutes.




Danemora -> RE: The Left's War On Free Speech Continues (8/25/2017 9:01:46 PM)


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ORIGINAL: Nnanji


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ORIGINAL: Danemora


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ORIGINAL: Nnanji


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ORIGINAL: Danemora

What does political correctness have to do with the fact that you think 6 people is an adequate sample size. You are hilarious, Bosco. A true riot

While I haven't watched the video, I live off grid and only have limited cell service to power my iPad, I have to agree with Bosco. It's a phenomon that people on the left just don't understand. For the last three or four decades the left has controlled all discussion politically by enforcing PC rules of conversation. I personally can relate my share of stories where've been threatened to be fired from employment if I said certain things.

Trump was, in my opinion, elected because he refused the PC dictates. The fact that a panel would stand up to established news sources and deny their required PC dictates is completely new and unestablished territory. To people like me, who've had speech chilled in order to work at a job, it is a big deal.




Ninja, Ill be honest...PC speech annoys the living shit out of me. And as I said in a few places, I was hopeful about Trump.

But to be honest, things are an absolute mess here in the US. And no, its not all Trump's fault. He's just doing business as usual in politics. Its been going on for a long time. Longer than him and the last I dont know how many Presidents.

All Im trying to explain to Bosco is that it isnt absolutes. Left leaners arent all like he portrays those of us who are to be. That is all. And Im getting called a "howler" and "an idiot" for saying so.

I think you've neglected a couple of things. For instance the concept of "hate crimes" where actual anti-PC speech can put you in jail. Or, as I've said, I have more than one story where I've been told not to speak or lose my job. I don't find it unreasonable for someone living under that oppression to feel "liberated" under Trump and to fling it back at "perceived" oppressors. Some day let me tell you about the black, female affirmative action officer that walked the corridors of my employ. Some day let me tell you about the only people that really saw how terrible I was used by the PC police were the lesbians in the organization. Some day let me tell you about how I was sent to classes to,learn how terrible I was because I was a white male. Some day let me tell you about how my employ illegally "worked around" hiring qualified people in order to illegally hire unqualified people. Some day let me tell you about how my employ illigally planned to hire unqualified contractors for millions of tax payer dollars in order to be politically correct...and...politically righteous. And on and on for thirty years of professional employ.


And none of our conversation regarding Bosco diminishes what you have said. While I dont know what you have gone through, I can try to imagine. Its tough when you are misunderstood or lumped in with a group.

As I said, Im a white female...and I cant stand PC.




Danemora -> RE: The Left's War On Free Speech Continues (8/25/2017 9:03:17 PM)

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ORIGINAL: BoscoX


You're being called a howler because you went off the deep end over a harmless little CNN video, and started throwing insults around just like every other leftard on here who cannot discuss a topic - and proved that a howler and an idiot is exactly what you are

[:)]



Bosco, Ill do you the biggest solid I can. You can crow all about how you got me good and shut me down, ok? Its my gift to you. So long as you understand that "shutting me down" means Im soldiering on.

Your opinion of me means about as much as that post Mexican food dump I just took. Bomb food, but spicy tears me up anynore




BoscoX -> RE: The Left's War On Free Speech Continues (8/25/2017 9:13:25 PM)

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ORIGINAL: Danemora

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ORIGINAL: BoscoX


You're being called a howler because you went off the deep end over a harmless little CNN video, and started throwing insults around just like every other leftard on here who cannot discuss a topic - and proved that a howler and an idiot is exactly what you are

[:)]



Bosco, Ill do you the biggest solid I can. You can crow all about how you got me good and shut me down, ok? Its my gift to you. So long as you understand that "shutting me down" means Im soldiering on.

Your opinion of me means about as much as that post Mexican food dump I just took. Bomb food, but spicy tears me up anynore


Yeah... Keep trying to insult me, in your petty juvenile way. Eventually you may find an insult that you really believe is as good as actual debate, with facts and everything

That, or learn how to discuss a topic like an adult

Until then you will remain an idiot, and a howler. Exactly lie practically every other mindless alt left troll infesting this site




Danemora -> RE: The Left's War On Free Speech Continues (8/25/2017 9:15:11 PM)

Shh, baby. Its okay...just relax and breathe deep. It'll all be over soon




BoscoX -> RE: The Left's War On Free Speech Continues (8/25/2017 9:20:56 PM)


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ORIGINAL: Danemora

Shh, baby. Its okay...just relax and breathe deep. It'll all be over soon


You should ease up on the LSD btw, or the mescaline, or whatever is causing the bizarre hallucinations you keep posting about

Or perhaps just grow up and learn to post like an adult?




Danemora -> RE: The Left's War On Free Speech Continues (8/25/2017 9:26:01 PM)

Did anyone tell you you're the spitting image of Charlie Brown's teacher? Honk, honk, honk...trumpet style. So close you'd swear it was a Canadian goose talking.

Im just following your debate style, Bosco. Dont blame me, blame the example




BoscoX -> RE: The Left's War On Free Speech Continues (8/25/2017 9:27:01 PM)


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ORIGINAL: Danemora

Did anyone tell you you're the spitting image of Charlie Brown's teacher? Honk, honk, honk...trumpet style. So close you'd swear it was a Canadian goose talking


Where the fuck do you get your LSD anyway. Didn't know they made that shit anymore




Danemora -> RE: The Left's War On Free Speech Continues (8/25/2017 9:28:26 PM)

Same place you got yours. In fact, I saw you there last week. Bad 70's porn star stache and 20 tube socks stuck in your spandex shorts. It was epic, love




itsSIRtou -> RE: The Left's War On Free Speech Continues (8/25/2017 10:02:14 PM)

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ORIGINAL: Nnanji


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ORIGINAL: Musicmystery

Well vince, if it helps -- I could give a shit whether they keep them up or tear them down.

I notice no one ever suggested leaving up Saddam Hussein's statues for historical purposes.

Oh ya, Saddam and Lee are exactly equivalent.


well maybe not exactly....lee was white so u'd give him a pass anyway..... after all, lee was traitor to his original home country. ....there's at least one difference...

but both felt their race/beliefs were superior to the point of anyone who was different needed to die, be enslaved or at the least be minimalized. ....hmmm, that's the same

So both looked the other way or facilitated minorities in their countries being killed & families broken up, women & children sold, murders carried out, etc..... the same too..

Of course lazy saddam used chemical weapons on his minorities ,...... while Lee's people was a little more active & used whips, guns, and lynching's to kill millions.....

a subtle difference right?


btw....hows that company of urs doing with ur fake leadership and multiple non-existent engineering degrees?

I have a few links that should have u a little more enlightened on the capabilities of the people who know more about CAD and design than u obviously do.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vESbiWHmWvQ

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-4PTdB9dnsw

And car design in a next level design platform... https://youtu.be/bdg7wxdIg3M





itsSIRtou -> RE: The Left's War On Free Speech Continues (8/25/2017 10:32:53 PM)

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ORIGINAL: BoscoX


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ORIGINAL: Danemora

Did anyone tell you you're the spitting image of Charlie Brown's teacher? Honk, honk, honk...trumpet style. So close you'd swear it was a Canadian goose talking


Where the fuck do you get your LSD anyway. Didn't know they made that shit anymore


actually Ive always though u were on this shit....ecstasy with rumps face molded into it...

https://gizmodo.com/fun-police-confiscate-thousands-of-ecstasy-pills-that-l-1798310457

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Dvr22999874 -> RE: The Left's War On Free Speech Continues (8/25/2017 10:38:36 PM)

I have to agree with MM on his point about statues. I couldn't really give a damn if they left them up or pulled them down. But there again I feel the same way about national flags and national anthems. I really don't care for either of those things but if the keep playing the anthems and waving the flags, that's fine too. As far as I'm concerned, the only anthem that makes any sense at all is the Spanish national anthem.




Musicmystery -> RE: The Left's War On Free Speech Continues (8/26/2017 5:44:31 AM)


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ORIGINAL: itsSIRtou

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ORIGINAL: Nnanji


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ORIGINAL: Musicmystery

Well vince, if it helps -- I could give a shit whether they keep them up or tear them down.

I notice no one ever suggested leaving up Saddam Hussein's statues for historical purposes.

Oh ya, Saddam and Lee are exactly equivalent.


well maybe not exactly....lee was white so u'd give him a pass anyway..... after all, lee was traitor to his original home country. ....there's at least one difference...

but both felt their race/beliefs were superior to the point of anyone who was different needed to die, be enslaved or at the least be minimalized. ....hmmm, that's the same

So both looked the other way or facilitated minorities in their countries being killed & families broken up, women & children sold, murders carried out, etc..... the same too..

Of course lazy saddam used chemical weapons on his minorities ,...... while Lee's people was a little more active & used whips, guns, and lynching's to kill millions.....

a subtle difference right?


btw....hows that company of urs doing with ur fake leadership and multiple non-existent engineering degrees?

I have a few links that should have u a little more enlightened on the capabilities of the people who know more about CAD and design than u obviously do.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vESbiWHmWvQ

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-4PTdB9dnsw

And car design in a next level design platform... https://youtu.be/bdg7wxdIg3M



It's not about equivalency -- it's about history!!!!!

Unless, of course, the "history" argument is just bullshit, and it's really an excuse to grab some guns, some torches, some Nazi flags, and throw a Confederate tantrum.




itsSIRtou -> RE: The Left's War On Free Speech Continues (8/26/2017 9:38:59 AM)

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ORIGINAL: Musicmystery


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ORIGINAL: itsSIRtou

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ORIGINAL: Nnanji


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ORIGINAL: Musicmystery

Well vince, if it helps -- I could give a shit whether they keep them up or tear them down.

I notice no one ever suggested leaving up Saddam Hussein's statues for historical purposes.

Oh ya, Saddam and Lee are exactly equivalent.


well maybe not exactly....lee was white so u'd give him a pass anyway..... after all, lee was traitor to his original home country. ....there's at least one difference...

but both felt their race/beliefs were superior to the point of anyone who was different needed to die, be enslaved or at the least be minimalized. ....hmmm, that's the same

So both looked the other way or facilitated minorities in their countries being killed & families broken up, women & children sold, murders carried out, etc..... the same too..

Of course lazy saddam used chemical weapons on his minorities ,...... while Lee's people was a little more active & used whips, guns, and lynching's to kill millions.....

a subtle difference right?


btw....hows that company of urs doing with ur fake leadership and multiple non-existent engineering degrees?

I have a few links that should have u a little more enlightened on the capabilities of the people who know more about CAD and design than u obviously do.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vESbiWHmWvQ

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-4PTdB9dnsw

And car design in a next level design platform... https://youtu.be/bdg7wxdIg3M



It's not about equivalency -- it's about history!!!!!

Unless, of course, the "history" argument is just bullshit, and it's really an excuse to grab some guns, some torches, some Nazi flags, and throw a Confederate tantrum.


of course its bullshit. its nothing BUTT bullshit. They KNOW its bullshit. nnanji knew when he made the statement it was bullshit,

he just didn't think (as usual) that someone would hand him the equivalency's of a known homicidal dictator and confederate general's on nnanji's own white platter.

all its really about is perpetuating a failed lifestyle.

no different than sharia law, just the white bigot version.






Nnanji -> RE: The Left's War On Free Speech Continues (8/26/2017 9:53:51 AM)

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ORIGINAL: itsSIRtou

quote:

ORIGINAL: Nnanji


quote:

ORIGINAL: Musicmystery

Well vince, if it helps -- I could give a shit whether they keep them up or tear them down.

I notice no one ever suggested leaving up Saddam Hussein's statues for historical purposes.

Oh ya, Saddam and Lee are exactly equivalent.


well maybe not exactly....lee was white so u'd give him a pass anyway..... after all, lee was traitor to his original home country. ....there's at least one difference...

but both felt their race/beliefs were superior to the point of anyone who was different needed to die, be enslaved or at the least be minimalized. ....hmmm, that's the same

So both looked the other way or facilitated minorities in their countries being killed & families broken up, women & children sold, murders carried out, etc..... the same too..

Of course lazy saddam used chemical weapons on his minorities ,...... while Lee's people was a little more active & used whips, guns, and lynching's to kill millions.....

a subtle difference right?


btw....hows that company of urs doing with ur fake leadership and multiple non-existent engineering degrees?

I have a few links that should have u a little more enlightened on the capabilities of the people who know more about CAD and design than u obviously do.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vESbiWHmWvQ

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-4PTdB9dnsw

And car design in a next level design platform... https://youtu.be/bdg7wxdIg3M



Lee was as much a traitor as is Tina Turner who renounced US citizenship and became Swiss. Probably less so as at the time people all had more loyalty to their state than to the U.S.

Glad you're back spanky, you're always good for a laugh. Keep it up.

Oh...and spanky...Lee denounced slavery as immoral and owned none.




Nnanji -> RE: The Left's War On Free Speech Continues (8/26/2017 10:05:06 AM)


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ORIGINAL: Danemora

I neglected to bring up things that hadnt been introduced into conversation? Truth be told, I was only replying yo Bosco...not spinning the conversation off into tangents. And no, that isnt a criticism of you. But if Im only responding to one thing being said, I tend to stick to just what Im replying to.

If I support free speech (which I do), I DO NOT support people being locked up for speaking theor mind. I dont have to like what someone has to say. But if I want my right to free speech, I have to extend that same courtesy to everyone else.

As Ive been trying to say repeatedly, it goes beyond absolutes.

Granted.




Real0ne -> RE: The Left's War On Free Speech Continues (8/26/2017 10:08:44 AM)


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ORIGINAL: itsSIRtou

all its really about is perpetuating a failed lifestyle.




but it thrives here [8|]




Nnanji -> RE: The Left's War On Free Speech Continues (8/26/2017 10:18:32 AM)

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ORIGINAL: Danemora


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ORIGINAL: Nnanji


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ORIGINAL: Danemora


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ORIGINAL: Nnanji


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ORIGINAL: Danemora

What does political correctness have to do with the fact that you think 6 people is an adequate sample size. You are hilarious, Bosco. A true riot

While I haven't watched the video, I live off grid and only have limited cell service to power my iPad, I have to agree with Bosco. It's a phenomon that people on the left just don't understand. For the last three or four decades the left has controlled all discussion politically by enforcing PC rules of conversation. I personally can relate my share of stories where've been threatened to be fired from employment if I said certain things.

Trump was, in my opinion, elected because he refused the PC dictates. The fact that a panel would stand up to established news sources and deny their required PC dictates is completely new and unestablished territory. To people like me, who've had speech chilled in order to work at a job, it is a big deal.




Ninja, Ill be honest...PC speech annoys the living shit out of me. And as I said in a few places, I was hopeful about Trump.

But to be honest, things are an absolute mess here in the US. And no, its not all Trump's fault. He's just doing business as usual in politics. Its been going on for a long time. Longer than him and the last I dont know how many Presidents.

All Im trying to explain to Bosco is that it isnt absolutes. Left leaners arent all like he portrays those of us who are to be. That is all. And Im getting called a "howler" and "an idiot" for saying so.

I think you've neglected a couple of things. For instance the concept of "hate crimes" where actual anti-PC speech can put you in jail. Or, as I've said, I have more than one story where I've been told not to speak or lose my job. I don't find it unreasonable for someone living under that oppression to feel "liberated" under Trump and to fling it back at "perceived" oppressors. Some day let me tell you about the black, female affirmative action officer that walked the corridors of my employ. Some day let me tell you about the only people that really saw how terrible I was used by the PC police were the lesbians in the organization. Some day let me tell you about how I was sent to classes to,learn how terrible I was because I was a white male. Some day let me tell you about how my employ illegally "worked around" hiring qualified people in order to illegally hire unqualified people. Some day let me tell you about how my employ illigally planned to hire unqualified contractors for millions of tax payer dollars in order to be politically correct...and...politically righteous. And on and on for thirty years of professional employ.


And none of our conversation regarding Bosco diminishes what you have said. While I dont know what you have gone through, I can try to imagine. Its tough when you are misunderstood or lumped in with a group.

As I said, Im a white female...and I cant stand PC.

One example. A woman where I worked went to HR and told them that a couple of management positions were about to open and if they didn't hire her for one of them, she'd sue for sexual discrimination. From there she went to upper management and accused me of sexual harassment so my job would open for her to,apply for. I was investigated, it would have ruined my career, I'd have had to move to find a job as my profession was a tight community.

But, as it turns out, one woman went to management on my behalf. When the original woman who complained was confronted with that, she admitted she lied. I complained to upper management about her. Upper management, in order to settle the matter, sent me to two days of sexual harassment training where I was told if I spoke during the two day training I'd be fired. During the two day training I was taught that it was all my fault because I was a white male.

BTW, the senior manager who told me that I couldn't speak or I'd be fired was a very good friend of mine then and to this day. It was a word to the wise because he was aware of what was planned for me because I spoke up and complained about what the woman had done to me. Thereupon, the woman who lied was given a promotion to a made up management position for which she was totally unqualified. And that is how Politically Correct culture is managed.




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