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tamaka -> RE: how to keep my slave from coming to the website (8/28/2017 6:40:59 PM)


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ORIGINAL: UllrsIshtar


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ORIGINAL: tamaka

Property 'belongs' to you and you are responsible for it. That is it. No role needed.

Slave is the role and station that person is allocated in a 'Master or Mistress's' life.



Ok, that clears that up.

So then, what does the role and station of 'being a slave' entail?


Service and obedience without rights.




tamaka -> RE: how to keep my slave from coming to the website (8/28/2017 6:42:43 PM)


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ORIGINAL: ThatDizzyChick

Yeah, we knew you were all fantasy, but it is nice of you to admit it.


Well, luckily i now live the fantasy, so it's all good.




ThatDizzyChick -> RE: how to keep my slave from coming to the website (8/28/2017 6:42:53 PM)

Don't bother answering, because anything you say will be taken as you declaring that what you say is an absolute, then the little cunt will lie about what you said to keep going on and on about how her particular and peculiar definition of "slave" (which oddly enough does not apply to her slave), proves the invalidity of any other interprettatuion. The bitch is completely fucking nuts, and a lying little cunt to boot




UllrsIshtar -> RE: how to keep my slave from coming to the website (8/28/2017 6:44:45 PM)


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ORIGINAL: tamaka


quote:

ORIGINAL: UllrsIshtar


quote:

ORIGINAL: tamaka

Property 'belongs' to you and you are responsible for it. That is it. No role needed.

Slave is the role and station that person is allocated in a 'Master or Mistress's' life.



Ok, that clears that up.

So then, what does the role and station of 'being a slave' entail?


Service and obedience without rights.



So consensual slavery is impossible in common law states?




tamaka -> RE: how to keep my slave from coming to the website (8/28/2017 6:47:47 PM)


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ORIGINAL: UllrsIshtar


quote:

ORIGINAL: tamaka


quote:

ORIGINAL: UllrsIshtar


quote:

ORIGINAL: tamaka

Property 'belongs' to you and you are responsible for it. That is it. No role needed.

Slave is the role and station that person is allocated in a 'Master or Mistress's' life.



Ok, that clears that up.

So then, what does the role and station of 'being a slave' entail?


Service and obedience without rights.



So consensual slavery is impossible in common law states?



Common Law requires you to both consent that you are married.




UllrsIshtar -> RE: how to keep my slave from coming to the website (8/28/2017 6:53:37 PM)

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ORIGINAL: ThatDizzyChick

to keep going on and on about how her particular and peculiar definition of "slave" (which oddly enough does not apply to her slave), proves the invalidity of any other interprettatuion.


Nope, I haven't claimed the invalidity of any other interpretation at all.

I agree that people who are in a contractual obedience dynamic rightfully claim the term 'slave'. I agree that such is called 'slavery', because I don't consider the fact that their obedience is based on their voluntary upholding of their promise to have any impact on, or detract from, the conditions that are necessary in order to sensibly be able to speak of 'voluntary slavery'. In fact, I've stated that I agree that contractual obedience dynamics are 'slavery' various time over the course of the thread.

I just don't agree that contractual obedience is a necessary condition in order to speak of 'consensual slavery'. And I don't see disobedience, or the need for enforcement as a sign that the necessary conditions to be able to speak of 'consensual slavery' aren't met.




ThatDizzyChick -> RE: how to keep my slave from coming to the website (8/28/2017 6:59:09 PM)

yeah, well you are not functionally sane, so whatever.
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I just don't agree that contractual obedience is a necessary condition in order to speak of 'consensual slavery'.

No body said it was you stupid little cunt.




UllrsIshtar -> RE: how to keep my slave from coming to the website (8/28/2017 7:01:19 PM)


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ORIGINAL: tamaka

Common Law requires you to both consent that you are married.


Not in all locations, and in court such consent has been established with the denial of one of the parties involved, sometimes with evidence as light as joint names on bills/bank accounts, or one of the parties claiming they were married without knowledge of the other party.

Either way, marriage or not, everybody in Western democracies has rights.
You, for example, have the right to vote. Does that mean you're not a slave?




tamaka -> RE: how to keep my slave from coming to the website (8/28/2017 7:01:20 PM)


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ORIGINAL: UllrsIshtar

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ORIGINAL: ThatDizzyChick

to keep going on and on about how her particular and peculiar definition of "slave" (which oddly enough does not apply to her slave), proves the invalidity of any other interprettatuion.


Nope, I haven't claimed the invalidity of any other interpretation at all.

I agree that people who are in a contractual obedience dynamic rightfully claim the term 'slave'. I agree that such is called 'slavery', because I don't consider the fact that their obedience is based on their voluntary upholding of their promise to have any impact on, or detract from, the conditions that are necessary in order to sensibly be able to speak of 'voluntary slavery'. In fact, I've stated that I agree that contractual obedience dynamics are 'slavery' various time over the course of the thread.

I just don't agree that contractual obedience is a necessary condition in order to speak of 'consensual slavery'. And I don't see disobedience, or the need for enforcement as a sign that the necessary conditions to be able to speak of 'consensual slavery' aren't met.


Spoken like a married woman. Who renegotiates her 'contract' every year, and always manages to ensure she always gets exactly what she wants. A master manipulator.




ThatDizzyChick -> RE: how to keep my slave from coming to the website (8/28/2017 7:08:50 PM)

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Common Law requires you to both consent that you are married.

Bullshit




ThatDizzyChick -> RE: how to keep my slave from coming to the website (8/28/2017 7:10:12 PM)

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You, for example, have the right to vote. Does that mean you're not a slave?

No, what means she is not a slave is the same damned thing that means you are not. You are both pretending.




UllrsIshtar -> RE: how to keep my slave from coming to the website (8/28/2017 7:11:41 PM)


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ORIGINAL: ThatDizzyChick

yeah, well you are not functionally sane, so whatever.
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I just don't agree that contractual obedience is a necessary condition in order to speak of 'consensual slavery'.

No body said it was you stupid little cunt.


Various people, throughout the thread, including yourself, said exactly that.

You said that the basic of having a slave is that they do what you tell them to to, and that in consensual slavery obedience is SOP.
Kaliko said: "I do think that if one says they're someone's slave, that obedience shouldn't be an issue. I think that's what makes that person a slave: that obedience isn't an issue."
kiwisub said: "If the slave is not obeying the master, then she isn't really a slave"




UllrsIshtar -> RE: how to keep my slave from coming to the website (8/28/2017 7:14:25 PM)


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ORIGINAL: tamaka

and always manages to ensure she always gets exactly what she wants. A master manipulator.



Actually, we both always get exactly what we want. Does that mean that he's a master manipulator too?

But yes, we reevaluate ever single year whether or not we want to stay together. If that, by your definition, precludes me from being a slave, then I'm obviously not a slave by your definition.




UllrsIshtar -> RE: how to keep my slave from coming to the website (8/28/2017 7:18:02 PM)


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ORIGINAL: ThatDizzyChick

yeah, well you are not functionally sane, so whatever.


you stupid little cunt.


BTW, Dizzy. I'm curious.

If you actually believe that I'm currently -or ever- not functionally sane, then why are you so angry?

If I'm functionally insane, then I can't help the fact that I'm wrong on this subject, because the reason I'm wrong is an expression of my mental illness.
So why does a mental illness in others cause such aggression in you that become unable to interact with a insane person without spewing a nonstop stream of profanity and insults?




ThatDizzyChick -> RE: how to keep my slave from coming to the website (8/28/2017 7:19:01 PM)

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Various people, throughout the thread, including yourself, said exactly that.

You are lying, I never said that.
I dare you to quote me saying that.
I fucking dare you to.

*Jesus she is not only a lying cunt, she is a stupid lying cunt*




UllrsIshtar -> RE: how to keep my slave from coming to the website (8/28/2017 7:22:11 PM)


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ORIGINAL: ThatDizzyChick

quote:

Various people, throughout the thread, including yourself, said exactly that.

You are lying, I never said that.
I dare you to quote me saying that.
I fucking dare you to.

*Jesus she is not only a lying cunt, she is a stupid lying cunt*




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ORIGINAL: ThatDizzyChick

Tell her not to? I mean isn't that the basics of having a slave, they do what you tell them?





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ORIGINAL: ThatDizzyChick

Yeah, that's a no. We are talking about CONSENSUAL make believe slavery, so yeah, obedience is the SOP.

*smh*


(That no is in reply to this post:)


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ORIGINAL: UllrsIshtar

Or he's got a slave who follows a more historic path of slavery than the current BDSM one, and doesn't obey commands the Master can't/won't/doesn't enforce.

I mean seriously... this definition of 'slave' = 'a person who does what you said just because you said it' is really quite new, and rather odd, considering the historical context of the word...





ThatDizzyChick -> RE: how to keep my slave from coming to the website (8/28/2017 7:22:48 PM)

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If you actually believe that I'm currently -or ever- not functionally sane, then why are you so angry?

I'm not angry. Remember I told you people didn't like me? Now you know why, because I call a lying cunt a lying cunt, and you, my dear are a lying cunt.
I 'spew" profanity and insults because those are the appropriate words. If you don't like the words, well too fucking bad for you cunt-for-brains, I no longer give a shit what you do or do not like, you are a fucking loon.




ThatDizzyChick -> RE: how to keep my slave from coming to the website (8/28/2017 7:24:05 PM)

Look up what "SOP" means cunt-for-brains




UllrsIshtar -> RE: how to keep my slave from coming to the website (8/28/2017 7:27:08 PM)


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ORIGINAL: ThatDizzyChick

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If you actually believe that I'm currently -or ever- not functionally sane, then why are you so angry?

I'm not angry. Remember I told you people didn't like me? Now you know why, because I call a lying cunt a lying cunt, and you, my dear are a lying cunt.
I 'spew" profanity and insults because those are the appropriate words. If you don't like the words, well too fucking bad for you cunt-for-brains, I no longer give a shit what you do or do not like, you are a fucking loon.


It's not that I don't like it. I don't really notice it, because I only go of content not 'tone'. So anything like that (positive or negative) just gets parsed out because it doesn't add to the content of the post.
It's just that Ullr read this thread today and pointed it out, which made me notice it, which made me curious as to the reason.

It also explains why I didn't get why people don't like you, because I've never noticed you doing that before.

But so no, it doesn't change my opinion about you at all.




UllrsIshtar -> RE: how to keep my slave from coming to the website (8/28/2017 7:28:17 PM)


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ORIGINAL: ThatDizzyChick

Look up what "SOP" means cunt-for-brains


I don't need to look it up, I know what it stands for.




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