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McCain: Trump pardoning Arpaio 'undermines his claim for the respect of rule of law'

"Mr. Arpaio was found guilty of criminal contempt for continuing to illegally profile Latinos living in Arizona based on their perceived immigration status in violation of a judge's orders," McCain said in a statement.



Sheriff Joe Arpaio, in my opinion, was a detestable law man. And, his manner of executing his duties as Sheriff were repellent. Again, this is just my opinion, BUT, the Sheriff himself is not the central issue at hand. A democracy depends on respect for its institutions and rule of law. This is just one more example where president Trumps actions are a threat to our basic institutions.

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IT's the sustained attack on the judiciary that's the glaring concern.

AND the bizarre way he did it -- President Trump addressed his pardon of former Arizona Sheriff Joe Arpaio in a news conference today. When asked why he issued the pardon, while a catastrophic hurricane was hitting Texas, he said he did it for the ratings! He then went on to make Arpaio out to be somewhat of a hero, not a criminal. Here's a little of what he said:

"I assumed the ratings would be far higher than they were normally. The hurricane was just starting and I put out that I pardoned, as we call Sheriff Joe. He's done a great job for the people of Arizona. He's very strong on borders, very strong on illegal immigration. He is loved in Arizona."

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President Trump on Monday said he announced his pardon of former Maricopa County, Ariz., Sheriff Joe Arpaio as Hurricane Harvey made landfall in Texas because he “assumed the ratings would be far higher.”

“In the middle of a hurricane, even though it was a Friday evening, I assumed the ratings would be far higher than they would be normally,” Trump said during a press conference with Finnish President Sauli Niinistö. “You know, the hurricane was just starting.”


“He’s done a great job for the people of Arizona, he’s very strong on borders, very strong on illegal immigration,” Trump said about Arpaio. “I thought he was treated unbelievably unfairly when they came down with their big decision to go get him right before the election voting started.”

Democrats blasted Trump on Friday for announcing his pardon of Arpaio as Harvey made landfall, with Senate Minority Leader Charles Schumer (D-N.Y.) accusing Trump of “using the cover of the storm” to issue the pardon.

The White House announced Trump’s decision to pardon Arpaio on Friday night in a statement.

“Throughout his time as Sheriff, Arpaio continued his life’s work of protecting the public from the scourges of crime and illegal immigration,” the White House said.

“Sheriff Joe Arpaio is now eighty-five years old, and after more than fifty years of admirable service to our Nation, he is a worthy candidate for a Presidential pardon.”

Arpaio was convicted of criminal contempt after he disobeyed a federal judge’s order to stop racially profiling individuals suspected of illegally entering the U.S.

http://thehill.com/homenews/administration/348327-trump-i-pardoned-arpaio-during-hurricane-because-i-thought-tv-ratings

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ORIGINAL: Musicmystery

IT's the sustained attack on the judiciary that's the glaring concern.

AND the bizarre way he did it -- President Trump addressed his pardon of former Arizona Sheriff Joe Arpaio in a news conference today. When asked why he issued the pardon, while a catastrophic hurricane was hitting Texas, he said he did it for the ratings! He then went on to make Arpaio out to be somewhat of a hero, not a criminal. Here's a little of what he said:

"I assumed the ratings would be far higher than they were normally. The hurricane was just starting and I put out that I pardoned, as we call Sheriff Joe. He's done a great job for the people of Arizona. He's very strong on borders, very strong on illegal immigration. He is loved in Arizona."

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No, there are not going to be two standards by which we judge presidents.

One standard for all.

I'm delighted to hear you say that " there are not going to be two standards by which we judge presidents. One standard for all" Bosco.

I recall you lambasting Obama for taking a golfing holiday every time he took a day or two off work. So precisely when can we look forward to you holding Trump to the exact same standard and lambasting him for his regular and (compered to Obama) lengthy golfing breaks each and every time he takes one?

Conservatives pointed to the hypocrisy after leftists went howling mad over President Bush's golfing for eight years

Context matters

What hypocrisy ? The real hypocrisy is in how Trump derided Obama about all of the golf he was playing. In 4 years at this pace, and at $91 million so far, Trump's golfing costs will be $472 million.

Eisenhower...800 rounds or 100 rounds per year.

Trump projected to play 73 rounds a year and Obama played 42 rounds a year...some with the speaker.

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Some shit that now makes sense...
WASHINGTON ― President Donald Trump on Monday defended his decision to pardon former Maricopa County Sheriff Joe Arpaio during a Category 4 hurricane, saying, “I assumed the ratings would be far higher.”

Asked about the Friday night pardon at a joint news conference, Trump praised Arpaio, who was convicted of criminal contempt after facing accusations of racial profiling and who ran an infamously brutal “Tent City” jail.

“He’s done a great job for the people of Arizona,” Trump said. “He’s strong on borders and strong on illegal immigration. He is loved in Arizona, and I thought he was treated unbelievably unfairly.”
When asked about the rationale for the pardon, which did not pass through the usual pardon process, Trump engaged in whataboutism, bringing up other controversial presidential pardons, such as President Bill Clinton’s pardon of billionaire oil trader Marc Rich. He also referred to President Barack Obama’s commutation of the sentence of Army whistleblower Chelsea Manning. (Obama did not pardon Manning, despite Trump’s claim that he “perhaps” pardoned her.)

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/trump-defends-joe-arpaio-pardon_us_59a480c6e4b050afa90c12d7

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Far better to have a president who pardons decent law and order types, than the last pile of shit who prioritized terrorists for his pardons

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Has anyone brought this up yet?

http://www.phoenixnewtimes.com/news/joe-arpaio-tent-city-a-concentration-camp-6500984

I haven't looked through the entire thread.

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ORIGINAL: Musicmystery

IT's the sustained attack on the judiciary that's the glaring concern.

AND the bizarre way he did it -- President Trump addressed his pardon of former Arizona Sheriff Joe Arpaio in a news conference today. When asked why he issued the pardon, while a catastrophic hurricane was hitting Texas, he said he did it for the ratings! He then went on to make Arpaio out to be somewhat of a hero, not a criminal. Here's a little of what he said:

"I assumed the ratings would be far higher than they were normally. The hurricane was just starting and I put out that I pardoned, as we call Sheriff Joe. He's done a great job for the people of Arizona. He's very strong on borders, very strong on illegal immigration. He is loved in Arizona."

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Not going to read it.

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ORIGINAL: Nnanji
Not going to read it.

Why would you?
It doesn't reinforce what you want to believe.

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ORIGINAL: Nnanji
Not going to read it.

Why would you?
It doesn't reinforce what you want to believe.

I explained in the part of my post you trimmed.

You're so smart. I know you can read all of my post.

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Far better to have a president who pardons decent law and order types, than the last pile of shit who prioritized terrorists for his pardons

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Far better to have a president who pardons decent law and order types, than the last pile of shit who prioritized terrorists for his pardons

So Arpaio is a "decent law and order type". The historical record differs sonewhat from this claim. According to wiki:
"Under Arpaio, the Maricopa County Sheriff's Office may have improperly cleared (reported as solved) as many as 75% of cases without arrest or proper investigation.[75][76][77][78][79]

In 2000 it was claimed that the sheriff's office failed to properly investigate serious crimes, including the rape of a 14-year-old girl by classmates,[80][81] and the rape of a 15-year-old girl by two strangers.[82][83] These cases were reported as "exceptionally cleared" (solved) by the MCSO without investigation or, in one instance, without even identifying a suspect – in contravention of Federal Bureau of Investigation (FBI) standards for exceptional clearance.[82][84] In the case of the 15-year-old girl, the case was closed within one month and before DNA testing was even complete, a 13-year-old's because her mother did not want to "pursue this investigation," and the 14-year-old's because a suspect declined to appear for questioning.[80][82]
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In an interview on the ABC's Nightline news program, when asked to explain why 82 percent of cases were declared cleared by exception, Arpaio said, "We do clear a higher percentage of that. I know that. We clear many, many cases – not 18 percent." Nightline contacted the MCSO after the interview and was told that of 7,346 crimes, only 944, or 15%, had been cleared by arrest.[85]

During a three-year period ending in 2007, more than 400 sex crimes reported to Arpaio's office were inadequately investigated or not investigated at all. While providing police services for El Mirage, Arizona, the MCSO under Arpaio failed to follow through on at least 32 reported child molestations, even though the suspects were known in all but six cases. Many of the victims were children of illegal immigrants.[82][86]

In a controversial case, Arpaio's office was accused of ignoring Sabrina Morrison, a teenage girl suffering from a mental disability. On March 7, 2007, the 13-year-old was raped by her uncle, Patrick Morrison. She told her teacher the next day, and her teacher called the MCSO. A rape kit was taken, but the detective assigned to the case told Sabrina and her family that there were no obvious signs of sexual assault, no semen, or signs of trauma.[87]

As a result of the detective's statements, Sabrina was branded by her family as a liar. Her uncle continued to rape her repeatedly, saying he would kill her if she told anyone. She became pregnant by him, and had an abortion. The family did not know that the rape kit had been tested at the state lab and showed the presence of semen. The lab requested that the detective obtain a blood sample from the suspect, Patrick Morrison.[88] Instead of obtaining the blood sample, or making an arrest, the detective filed the crime-lab note and closed the case for four years.[88]

In September 2011 the sheriff's office obtained a blood sample from Patrick Morrison, which was a DNA match with the semen taken over four years earlier. On February 29, 2012, Patrick Morrison was arrested and charged with one count of sexual conduct with a minor, at which point the MCSO closed the case. Later Sabrina's uncle was charged with additional indictments based on information obtained from Sabrina by a victim's advocate. Patrick Morrison pleaded guilty and was sentenced to 24 years in prison.[88]

In December 2011, responding to continuing media coverage of the controversy, and apparently unaware that there were hundreds of victims in these cases, Arpaio stated in a press conference, "If there were any victims, I apologize to those victims."[89]

In August 2012, Sabrina Morrison filed a $30-million notice of claim against Joe Arpaio and Maricopa County for gross negligence, a claim which was eventually settled for $3.5 million.[90][91]
Justification for ignoring sex crimes

An internal memo written by one of the detectives assigned to the Morrison case blamed a high case load, saying the special victims unit had gone from five detectives to just three, and the detectives left were often called off their cases to investigate special assignments. These included a credit card fraud case involving the Arizona Diamondbacks and a mortgage fraud case in Arpaio's home city of Fountain Hills.[92]"
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Joe_Arpaio

The above is an extract from Arpaio's record in dealing with sex crimes only. Other crimes, including the criminal contempt of court that eventually resulted in Arpaio's conviction should be read as additional to the above.

If this is the record of a "decent law and order type" then heaven protect us from such "decent law and order types". Of course Trump being a serial sexual assailant himself would understand and sympathise with such crimes. If Trump's own statements are anything to go by possibly, he probably holds the view that the rape of juvenile girls with developmental disabilities isn't such a serious crime, if in fact it is a crime at all and not the birthright of red-blooded males ... and anyway, these girls are 'illegal immigrants' and therefore undeserving of the protection of the law.

"Decent law and order type" used to mean something honourable. It is a salient indicator of the nasty perversity of Trump's America that it now refers to pedophile enablers, protectors and rapists.

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FR

Far better to have a president who pardons decent law and order types, than the last pile of shit who prioritized terrorists for his pardons

So Arpaio is a "decent law and order type". The historical record differs sonewhat from this claim. According to wiki:
"Under Arpaio, the Maricopa County Sheriff's Office may have improperly cleared (reported as solved) as many as 75% of cases without arrest or proper investigation.[75][76][77][78][79]

In 2000 it was claimed that the sheriff's office failed to properly investigate serious crimes, including the rape of a 14-year-old girl by classmates,[80][81] and the rape of a 15-year-old girl by two strangers.[82][83] These cases were reported as "exceptionally cleared" (solved) by the MCSO without investigation or, in one instance, without even identifying a suspect – in contravention of Federal Bureau of Investigation (FBI) standards for exceptional clearance.[82][84] In the case of the 15-year-old girl, the case was closed within one month and before DNA testing was even complete, a 13-year-old's because her mother did not want to "pursue this investigation," and the 14-year-old's because a suspect declined to appear for questioning.[80][82]
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In an interview on the ABC's Nightline news program, when asked to explain why 82 percent of cases were declared cleared by exception, Arpaio said, "We do clear a higher percentage of that. I know that. We clear many, many cases – not 18 percent." Nightline contacted the MCSO after the interview and was told that of 7,346 crimes, only 944, or 15%, had been cleared by arrest.[85]

During a three-year period ending in 2007, more than 400 sex crimes reported to Arpaio's office were inadequately investigated or not investigated at all. While providing police services for El Mirage, Arizona, the MCSO under Arpaio failed to follow through on at least 32 reported child molestations, even though the suspects were known in all but six cases. Many of the victims were children of illegal immigrants.[82][86]

In a controversial case, Arpaio's office was accused of ignoring Sabrina Morrison, a teenage girl suffering from a mental disability. On March 7, 2007, the 13-year-old was raped by her uncle, Patrick Morrison. She told her teacher the next day, and her teacher called the MCSO. A rape kit was taken, but the detective assigned to the case told Sabrina and her family that there were no obvious signs of sexual assault, no semen, or signs of trauma.[87]

As a result of the detective's statements, Sabrina was branded by her family as a liar. Her uncle continued to rape her repeatedly, saying he would kill her if she told anyone. She became pregnant by him, and had an abortion. The family did not know that the rape kit had been tested at the state lab and showed the presence of semen. The lab requested that the detective obtain a blood sample from the suspect, Patrick Morrison.[88] Instead of obtaining the blood sample, or making an arrest, the detective filed the crime-lab note and closed the case for four years.[88]

In September 2011 the sheriff's office obtained a blood sample from Patrick Morrison, which was a DNA match with the semen taken over four years earlier. On February 29, 2012, Patrick Morrison was arrested and charged with one count of sexual conduct with a minor, at which point the MCSO closed the case. Later Sabrina's uncle was charged with additional indictments based on information obtained from Sabrina by a victim's advocate. Patrick Morrison pleaded guilty and was sentenced to 24 years in prison.[88]

In December 2011, responding to continuing media coverage of the controversy, and apparently unaware that there were hundreds of victims in these cases, Arpaio stated in a press conference, "If there were any victims, I apologize to those victims."[89]

In August 2012, Sabrina Morrison filed a $30-million notice of claim against Joe Arpaio and Maricopa County for gross negligence, a claim which was eventually settled for $3.5 million.[90][91]
Justification for ignoring sex crimes

An internal memo written by one of the detectives assigned to the Morrison case blamed a high case load, saying the special victims unit had gone from five detectives to just three, and the detectives left were often called off their cases to investigate special assignments. These included a credit card fraud case involving the Arizona Diamondbacks and a mortgage fraud case in Arpaio's home city of Fountain Hills.[92]"
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Joe_Arpaio

The above is an extract from Arpaio's record in dealing with sex crimes only. Other crimes, including the criminal contempt of court that eventually resulted in Arpaio's conviction should be read as additional to the above.

If this is the record of a "decent law and order type" then heaven protect us from such "decent law and order types". Of course Trump being a serial sexual assailant himself would understand and sympathise with such crimes. If Trump's own statements are anything to go by possibly, he probably holds the view that the rape of juvenile girls with developmental disabilities isn't such a serious crime, if in fact it is a crime at all and not the birthright of red-blooded males ... and anyway, these girls are 'illegal immigrants' and therefore undeserving of the protection of the law.

"Decent law and order type" used to mean something honourable. It is a salient indicator of the nasty perversity of Trump's America that it now refers to pedophile enablers, protectors and rapists.

When someone is as despised by leftist trash as Sheriff Joe Arpaio for standing up to Obama's illegal open border program, the public editing of his Wkipedia article is even more worthless and suspect than your own deplorable reasoning skills

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When someone is as despised by leftist trash as Sheriff Joe Arpaio for standing up to Obama's illegal open border program, the public editing of his Wkipedia article is even more worthless and suspect than your own deplorable reasoning skills