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heavyblinker -> RE: Deranged Leftists Think Trump is Creating “Racist” Hurricanes (9/9/2017 8:57:20 AM)

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ORIGINAL: NotDimDom
That's not what was said. What was said was that the media is tying their hyperbolic adjectives together with climate change to insert the "correctness" of their assertions in their believers' brains.


'Hyperbolic adjectives' that just happen to be correct.
And I don't even think the nuttiest right-winger denies that the climate is changing anymore.




heavyblinker -> RE: Deranged Leftists Think Trump is Creating “Racist” Hurricanes (9/9/2017 9:00:34 AM)


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ORIGINAL: BoscoX


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ORIGINAL: heavyblinker

It was the strongest recorded in the Atlantic Basin, and with the most powerful winds ever measured.
WTF does it matter if it ends up being the 5th or 6th strongest to hit the US?
So the media shouldn't report that there's any danger involved because it might make people think that climate change isn't a liberal plot to control the world?

Why are you so anxious to believe the media when it says it's the 5th strongest (so I guess no need to worry), but not when they accurately report other records?


When you howlers scream "ever recorded" what you really mean is "since we launched all those high tech satellites a few years ago"


Reliable record-keeping began in 1851 you ignorant asshole.




MasterWickedness -> RE: Deranged Leftists Think Trump is Creating “Racist” Hurricanes (9/9/2017 9:05:54 AM)

Is that you too sanity? Meh, no matter.

Currently downgraded to a cat 3 at the moment but expected to scoff more energy from the sea and strengthen

they tend to use the argument
There is no global warming its a hoax, or Chinese conspiracy, or some trot like that and then they go onto backing up those arguments with claptrap... And (conclude) therefore hurricanes are a leftist hoax, or liberal snowflake conspiracy.


Christ, Baldrick he really said that? "Rush Limbaugh Just Snuck Out Of Florida After Telling Listeners Hurricane Irma Is A Liberal Hoax




BoscoX -> RE: Deranged Leftists Think Trump is Creating “Racist” Hurricanes (9/9/2017 9:52:07 AM)

quote:

ORIGINAL: heavyblinker

quote:

ORIGINAL: NotDimDom
That's not what was said. What was said was that the media is tying their hyperbolic adjectives together with climate change to insert the "correctness" of their assertions in their believers' brains.


'Hyperbolic adjectives' that just happen to be correct.
And I don't even think the nuttiest right-winger denies that the climate is changing anymore.


You are a moron

The only climate change deniers are howlers like you who really believe that Earths climate never changed until Al Gore needed a get-rich-quick scheme.

The climate has always been in a constant state of change, its just never been politicized like this before now




BoscoX -> RE: Deranged Leftists Think Trump is Creating “Racist” Hurricanes (9/9/2017 9:55:38 AM)

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ORIGINAL: heavyblinker


quote:

ORIGINAL: BoscoX


quote:

ORIGINAL: heavyblinker

It was the strongest recorded in the Atlantic Basin, and with the most powerful winds ever measured.
WTF does it matter if it ends up being the 5th or 6th strongest to hit the US?
So the media shouldn't report that there's any danger involved because it might make people think that climate change isn't a liberal plot to control the world?

Why are you so anxious to believe the media when it says it's the 5th strongest (so I guess no need to worry), but not when they accurately report other records?


When you howlers scream "ever recorded" what you really mean is "since we launched all those high tech satellites a few years ago"


Reliable record-keeping began in 1851 you ignorant asshole.


You really believe we knew exact wind speeds everywhere on the planet in 1851

I believe you when you tell us that




heavyblinker -> RE: Deranged Leftists Think Trump is Creating “Racist” Hurricanes (9/9/2017 9:56:38 AM)

quote:

ORIGINAL: BoscoX
You are a moron

The only climate change deniers are howlers like you who really believe that Earths climate never changed until Al Gore needed a get-rich-quick scheme.

The climate has always been in a constant state of change, its just never been politicized like this before now


Nobody believes that.
It's amazing just how stupid you have to pretend someone else is in order to feel like you're smarter than them.
Not surprising though.




BoscoX -> RE: Deranged Leftists Think Trump is Creating “Racist” Hurricanes (9/9/2017 10:18:36 AM)


quote:

ORIGINAL: heavyblinker

quote:

ORIGINAL: BoscoX
You are a moron

The only climate change deniers are howlers like you who really believe that Earths climate never changed until Al Gore needed a get-rich-quick scheme.

The climate has always been in a constant state of change, its just never been politicized like this before now


Nobody believes that.
It's amazing just how stupid you have to pretend someone else is in order to feel like you're smarter than them.
Not surprising though.


Now we're getting somewhere

Admitting that the climate changes naturally without the help of mankind is a good first step toward your joining reality




WhoreMods -> RE: Deranged Leftists Think Trump is Creating “Racist” Hurricanes (9/9/2017 10:23:32 AM)


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ORIGINAL: BoscoX


quote:

ORIGINAL: heavyblinker

quote:

ORIGINAL: BoscoX
You are a moron

The only climate change deniers are howlers like you who really believe that Earths climate never changed until Al Gore needed a get-rich-quick scheme.

The climate has always been in a constant state of change, its just never been politicized like this before now


Nobody believes that.
It's amazing just how stupid you have to pretend someone else is in order to feel like you're smarter than them.
Not surprising though.


Now we're getting somewhere

Admitting that the climate changes naturally without the help of mankind is a good first step toward your joining reality

[img]http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-RjJU8Fn6Iso/UaXqojm34dI/AAAAAAAAA0o/yq79Ij_okb4/s1600/ironman_iron_knee.png[/img]




heavyblinker -> RE: Deranged Leftists Think Trump is Creating “Racist” Hurricanes (9/9/2017 10:51:07 AM)


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ORIGINAL: BoscoX

quote:

ORIGINAL: heavyblinker


quote:

ORIGINAL: BoscoX


quote:

ORIGINAL: heavyblinker

It was the strongest recorded in the Atlantic Basin, and with the most powerful winds ever measured.
WTF does it matter if it ends up being the 5th or 6th strongest to hit the US?
So the media shouldn't report that there's any danger involved because it might make people think that climate change isn't a liberal plot to control the world?

Why are you so anxious to believe the media when it says it's the 5th strongest (so I guess no need to worry), but not when they accurately report other records?


When you howlers scream "ever recorded" what you really mean is "since we launched all those high tech satellites a few years ago"


Reliable record-keeping began in 1851 you ignorant asshole.


You really believe we knew exact wind speeds everywhere on the planet in 1851

I believe you when you tell us that



You're ignorant and lazy.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anemometer

Next time look it up yourself.




heavyblinker -> RE: Deranged Leftists Think Trump is Creating “Racist” Hurricanes (9/9/2017 10:53:58 AM)

quote:

ORIGINAL: BoscoX
Now we're getting somewhere

Admitting that the climate changes naturally without the help of mankind is a good first step toward your joining reality


I just told you that I have never disagreed that climate changes naturally and now you are pretending that I have changed my mind?
WTF is wrong with you?




jlf1961 -> RE: Deranged Leftists Think Trump is Creating “Racist” Hurricanes (9/9/2017 10:55:12 AM)

I have it on good authority that the reason the US is getting nailed by so many hurricanes is due to Brit experiments in weather control!




Lucylastic -> RE: Deranged Leftists Think Trump is Creating “Racist” Hurricanes (9/9/2017 10:56:21 AM)


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ORIGINAL: jlf1961

I have it on good authority that the reason the US is getting nailed by so many hurricanes is due to Brit experiments in weather control!

damn Ive been rumbled.




WhoreMods -> RE: Deranged Leftists Think Trump is Creating “Racist” Hurricanes (9/9/2017 10:59:30 AM)


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ORIGINAL: jlf1961

I have it on good authority that the reason the US is getting nailed by so many hurricanes is due to Brit experiments in weather control!

Don't talk such rot, Jeff: have you never seen the weather in Britain? You'd be getting rain rather than storms if we had anything to do with it.




blnymph -> RE: Deranged Leftists Think Trump is Creating “Racist” Hurricanes (9/9/2017 11:18:05 AM)


quote:

ORIGINAL: heavyblinker


quote:

ORIGINAL: BoscoX


quote:

ORIGINAL: heavyblinker

It was the strongest recorded in the Atlantic Basin, and with the most powerful winds ever measured.
WTF does it matter if it ends up being the 5th or 6th strongest to hit the US?
So the media shouldn't report that there's any danger involved because it might make people think that climate change isn't a liberal plot to control the world?

Why are you so anxious to believe the media when it says it's the 5th strongest (so I guess no need to worry), but not when they accurately report other records?


When you howlers scream "ever recorded" what you really mean is "since we launched all those high tech satellites a few years ago"


Reliable record-keeping began in 1851 you ignorant asshole.

In 1783 to be precise - at one station until present without any gaps.

The methods developed then are international standard now.

See
https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Societas_Meteorologica_Palatina






BoscoX -> RE: Deranged Leftists Think Trump is Creating “Racist” Hurricanes (9/9/2017 12:00:24 PM)


quote:

ORIGINAL: blnymph


quote:

ORIGINAL: heavyblinker


quote:

ORIGINAL: BoscoX


quote:

ORIGINAL: heavyblinker

It was the strongest recorded in the Atlantic Basin, and with the most powerful winds ever measured.
WTF does it matter if it ends up being the 5th or 6th strongest to hit the US?
So the media shouldn't report that there's any danger involved because it might make people think that climate change isn't a liberal plot to control the world?

Why are you so anxious to believe the media when it says it's the 5th strongest (so I guess no need to worry), but not when they accurately report other records?


When you howlers scream "ever recorded" what you really mean is "since we launched all those high tech satellites a few years ago"


Reliable record-keeping began in 1851 you ignorant asshole.

In 1783 to be precise - at one station until present without any gaps.

The methods developed then are international standard now.

See
https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Societas_Meteorologica_Palatina





There's no arguing with your kind of stupidity

Your moron howler friend claimed there are accurate Atlantic hurricane records OUT AT SEA going back to 1851

How many ships really sailed through powerful hurricanes at that time, all of them, recording wind speed data

Take your time finding the answer, we will all wait very patiently




heavyblinker -> RE: Deranged Leftists Think Trump is Creating “Racist” Hurricanes (9/9/2017 12:10:03 PM)

quote:

ORIGINAL: BoscoX


quote:

ORIGINAL: blnymph


quote:

ORIGINAL: heavyblinker


quote:

ORIGINAL: BoscoX


quote:

ORIGINAL: heavyblinker

It was the strongest recorded in the Atlantic Basin, and with the most powerful winds ever measured.
WTF does it matter if it ends up being the 5th or 6th strongest to hit the US?
So the media shouldn't report that there's any danger involved because it might make people think that climate change isn't a liberal plot to control the world?

Why are you so anxious to believe the media when it says it's the 5th strongest (so I guess no need to worry), but not when they accurately report other records?


When you howlers scream "ever recorded" what you really mean is "since we launched all those high tech satellites a few years ago"


Reliable record-keeping began in 1851 you ignorant asshole.

In 1783 to be precise - at one station until present without any gaps.

The methods developed then are international standard now.

See
https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Societas_Meteorologica_Palatina





There's no arguing with your kind of stupidity

Your moron howler friend claimed there are accurate Atlantic hurricane records OUT AT SEA going back to 1851

How many ships really sailed through powerful hurricanes at that time, all of them, recording wind speed data

Take your time finding the answer, we will all wait very patiently


You're delusional.
I made no such claim.

You just keep making shit up to make yourself feel better.




ThatDizzyChick -> RE: Deranged Leftists Think Trump is Creating “Racist” Hurricanes (9/9/2017 12:29:08 PM)

Fuck you guys are stupid.




BoscoX -> RE: Deranged Leftists Think Trump is Creating “Racist” Hurricanes (9/9/2017 12:31:34 PM)


quote:

ORIGINAL: heavyblinker


quote:

ORIGINAL: BoscoX


quote:

ORIGINAL: heavyblinker

It was the strongest recorded in the Atlantic Basin, and with the most powerful winds ever measured.
WTF does it matter if it ends up being the 5th or 6th strongest to hit the US?
So the media shouldn't report that there's any danger involved because it might make people think that climate change isn't a liberal plot to control the world?

Why are you so anxious to believe the media when it says it's the 5th strongest (so I guess no need to worry), but not when they accurately report other records?


When you howlers scream "ever recorded" what you really mean is "since we launched all those high tech satellites a few years ago"


Reliable record-keeping began in 1851 you ignorant asshole.


You keep forgetting that your ignorant vacuous howling is on record [:D]




jlf1961 -> RE: Deranged Leftists Think Trump is Creating “Racist” Hurricanes (9/9/2017 12:52:13 PM)

quote:

ORIGINAL: WhoreMods


quote:

ORIGINAL: jlf1961

I have it on good authority that the reason the US is getting nailed by so many hurricanes is due to Brit experiments in weather control!

Don't talk such rot, Jeff: have you never seen the weather in Britain? You'd be getting rain rather than storms if we had anything to do with it.



Except that you brits are still a bit miffed at getting beat in 1776 AND 1812.

and heavy rains are a major part of a hurricane.

As for National Weather Service weather record keeping,


quote:

History of the National Weather Service


The National Weather Service has its beginnings in the early history of the United States. Weather has always been important to the citizenry of this country, and this was especially true during the 17th and 18th centuries.
The beginning of the National Weather Service we know today started on February 9th, 1870, when President Ulysses S. Grant signed a joint resolution of Congress authorizing the Secretary of War to establish a national weather service. This resolution required the Secretary of War

"to provide for taking meteorological observations at the military stations in the interior of the continent and at other points in the States and Territories...and for giving notice on the northern (Great) Lakes and on the seacoast by magnetic telegraph and marine signals, of the approach and force of storms"

After much thought and consideration, it was decided that this agency would be placed under the Secretary of War because military discipline would probably secure the greatest promptness, regularity, and accuracy in the required observations. Within the Department of War, it was assigned to the Signal Service Corps under Brigadier General Albert J. Myer. General Meyer gave the National Weather Service its first name: The Division of Telegrams and Reports for the Benefit of Commerce.

Later that year, the first systematized, synchronous weather observations ever taken in the U.S. were made by "observing-sergeants" of the Army Signal Service at 22 stations and telegraphed to Washington. An agency was born which would affect the daily lives of most of the citizens of the United States through its forecasts and warnings.
Source


As for records of hurricanes and tropical storms.

Prior to the invention of radio, storm data was dependent on telegraphed messages sent from the various islands to other countries, which considering the fact that there were not that many trans ocean telegraph cables, this was unreliable at best.

Otherwise, the only way to know of an approaching tropical storm was by direct observation of weather instruments at the various weather stations around the country.

After ships began to be equipped with radio transmitters and receivers, storm reports were sent from ship to shore after the ship was caught in the storm, these reports included pertinent weather data.

The first USAAC flight into a hurricane was in 1943 and it was not officially sanctioned but was done on a bet with an aT6 Texan, flown by Colonel Joe Duckworth.

Since 43, the following aircraft have been used:
A-20 Havoc, 1944; B-24, 1944–1945; B-17, 1945–1947; B-25, 1946–1947; B-29, 1946–1947. WB-29, 1951–1956; WB-50, 1956–1963; WB-47, 1963–1969; WC-121N 1954–1973; WC-130A,B,E,H, 1965–2012.

It was these crews who gathered the data on the storms.

Additionally, NOAA has two WP-3d Orions they use as well as a high flying Gulfstream.

As for satellites, the first weather satellites, used a very rudimentary television transmission and these were transmitted as the satellite passed over a given receiving station every orbit.




HaveRopeWillBind -> RE: Deranged Leftists Think Trump is Creating “Racist” Hurricanes (9/9/2017 1:10:02 PM)


quote:

ORIGINAL: jlf1961
Except that you brits are still a bit miffed at getting beat in 1776 AND 1812.


I thought the Brits got even for all that when they sent us The Spice Girls.




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