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jlf1961 -> Hey the weather channel has gotten on the fake news bandwagon (9/10/2017 6:38:23 PM)

Yup the weather channel has jumped on the fake news band wagon, their first entry was a video about the devastation in Naples Florida, a whole neighborhood destroyed....

Failing to mention that the neighborhood in question is a mobile home park.

While I agree that the people who lost their homes in this particular neighborhood has suffered, they are mobile homes and technically not designed to survive tropical storm force winds, let alone a damn hurricane.




Real0ne -> RE: Hey the weather channel has gotten on the fake news bandwagon (9/10/2017 7:26:33 PM)

It took trump to expose what some of us have been ranting about for years and listening to all the ass helmets sing their conspiracy theory mantra to shut everyone who did not fall in line with the state agenda. People are a little slow but at some point the cancer grows to the point even the hardest core statist poser has to squeal like a pig.




heavyblinker -> RE: Hey the weather channel has gotten on the fake news bandwagon (9/10/2017 10:48:33 PM)

Ummm... so was the neighborhood destroyed or not?
I don't understand how it being a trailer park somehow makes it less of a neighborhood.

Fake news is stuff that doesn't have a shred of truth to it and tends to serve a purely political purpose-- like Pizzagate or Hillary was arrested yesterday.
If the story actually happened, then even if there's a whiff of sensationalism there it's still not fake news.




tweakabelle -> RE: Hey the weather channel has gotten on the fake news bandwagon (9/11/2017 12:24:49 AM)

If his posts here are anything to go by, in RO's world his fav conspiracy theories are confirmed by fake news.

OTOH RO's fav conspiracy theories are NOT disproved by real news. Real (truthful) news is just more evidence to prove that the conspiracy theory is in fact true. In RO's world, real (truthful) news is just more fake news dreamt up by the gubmint/mainstream media conspirators to pull the wool over our collective eyes.

Please don't ask me to make sense of the above.




heavyblinker -> RE: Hey the weather channel has gotten on the fake news bandwagon (9/11/2017 12:43:31 AM)

Basically the important thing isn't whether it's real or fake, but whether it confirms or contradicts what he already believes.

If it confirms his insanity, it is uncritically accepted as truth.
If it contradicts his insanity, it is uncritically denounced as part of the ongoing librul conspiracy.

What I don't understand is how he can possibly think Trump has 'exposed' anything.
RWNJs have never trusted any media outside of FOX, Breitbart and various conspiracy sites... they don't like it when reality interferes with their beliefs.
This has been common knowledge for decades now... the only difference is that we finally have a president stupid enough to agree with them.




Made2Obey -> RE: Hey the weather channel has gotten on the fake news bandwagon (9/11/2017 3:16:19 AM)

NBC news was in the same trailer park last night, not much left but debris.




Hillwilliam -> RE: Hey the weather channel has gotten on the fake news bandwagon (9/11/2017 4:33:59 AM)

I never understood why trailers were allowed anydamnplace in FL.




Made2Obey -> RE: Hey the weather channel has gotten on the fake news bandwagon (9/11/2017 4:38:59 AM)


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ORIGINAL: Hillwilliam

I never understood why trailers were allowed anydamnplace in FL.


They would be fine if trailers in coastal areas (or areas prone to tornadoes) were required to be built to withstand a 200 mph wind, and to be properly anchored for the same.




Hillwilliam -> RE: Hey the weather channel has gotten on the fake news bandwagon (9/11/2017 4:42:11 AM)


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ORIGINAL: Made2Obey


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ORIGINAL: Hillwilliam

I never understood why trailers were allowed anydamnplace in FL.


They would be fine if trailers in coastal areas (or areas prone to tornadoes) were required to be built to withstand a 200 mph wind, and to be properly anchored for the same.


I was in a concrete block house in Andrew (165+) and holes were punched in the walls by 1x2's. In spite of 'hurricane straps' the roof went byby. The whole place got jackhammered. I don't think a trailer can be built to stand 200.




captive4ever -> RE: Hey the weather channel has gotten on the fake news bandwagon (9/11/2017 4:48:00 AM)


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ORIGINAL: Made2Obey


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ORIGINAL: Hillwilliam

I never understood why trailers were allowed anydamnplace in FL.


They would be fine if trailers in coastal areas (or areas prone to tornadoes) were required to be built to withstand a 200 mph wind, and to be properly anchored for the same.




I think that's called a house...




DesideriScuri -> RE: Hey the weather channel has gotten on the fake news bandwagon (9/11/2017 5:05:21 AM)

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ORIGINAL: Made2Obey
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ORIGINAL: Hillwilliam
I never understood why trailers were allowed anydamnplace in FL.

They would be fine if trailers in coastal areas (or areas prone to tornadoes) were required to be built to withstand a 200 mph wind, and to be properly anchored for the same.


IOW, not allowed in FLA. [:D]




Musicmystery -> RE: Hey the weather channel has gotten on the fake news bandwagon (9/11/2017 5:34:57 AM)


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ORIGINAL: Hillwilliam

I never understood why trailers were allowed anydamnplace in FL.

Same reason shacks are allowed in Haiti -- because some people can't afford houses.




jlf1961 -> RE: Hey the weather channel has gotten on the fake news bandwagon (9/11/2017 6:14:19 AM)


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ORIGINAL: Musicmystery


quote:

ORIGINAL: Hillwilliam

I never understood why trailers were allowed anydamnplace in FL.

Same reason shacks are allowed in Haiti -- because some people can't afford houses.



Except that, in many cases, the mobile homes cost as much as a regular house.

There is one dealership locally that has a triple wide mobile home that starts at 145K.




Hillwilliam -> RE: Hey the weather channel has gotten on the fake news bandwagon (9/11/2017 6:26:13 AM)

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ORIGINAL: jlf1961


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ORIGINAL: Musicmystery


quote:

ORIGINAL: Hillwilliam

I never understood why trailers were allowed anydamnplace in FL.

Same reason shacks are allowed in Haiti -- because some people can't afford houses.



Except that, in many cases, the mobile homes cost as much as a regular house.

There is one dealership locally that has a triple wide mobile home that starts at 145K.

When I sold real estate, it was not uncommon for a doublewide to cost more than a stick built home of similar size.
The problem is that a mobile home WILL depreciate.




jlf1961 -> RE: Hey the weather channel has gotten on the fake news bandwagon (9/11/2017 6:39:06 AM)


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ORIGINAL: heavyblinker

Ummm... so was the neighborhood destroyed or not?
I don't understand how it being a trailer park somehow makes it less of a neighborhood.

Fake news is stuff that doesn't have a shred of truth to it and tends to serve a purely political purpose-- like Pizzagate or Hillary was arrested yesterday.
If the story actually happened, then even if there's a whiff of sensationalism there it's still not fake news.




The point is that in order to get a maximum effect from the video, they chose to film the one area that would show complete and udder devastation, a mobile home park.

I have friends living in Naples, and they were the ones that brought it to my attention, basically saying that if you went by that footage, you would believe the entire town was flattened, which is not the case, in point of fact, that while the damage is bad, it is not near as bad as that clip implies.

Basically some roof damage, minor structural damage and a lot of water damage, but not complete devastation.

In other words, the producer who decided to use that footage picked a location to get maximum effect and imply that things were worse than they really are.

Mobile homes are going to take a beating in high winds. In fact, you cannot get a standard home owners policy, the insurance on a mobile home is considerably higher due to the fact they do get damaged easily.

One more thing on a mobile home, they are not considered permanent structures, so you get a title, like a car, to prove ownership.

The alternative is a modular home that is basically built in a factory, trucked to the site and set on a standard home foundation with the intent of never moving it again.

In those instances, the home owners insurance is the same as any other stick built home. And modular homes are usually (not always, depends on the company) built to a higher standard than a normal house since it has to be trucked to a location.

Firms building modular homes in the gulf and coastal states even design them so they can be placed on wood stilts or concrete pilings above the storm surge.

Some years ago, in a response to the fact that standard mobile homes cannot stand up to high winds, a bill was introduced in congress that would have basically made mobile homes uninsurable as permanent dwellings, which failed because the opposition claimed that they were a cheap alternative to standard constructed homes.




Musicmystery -> RE: Hey the weather channel has gotten on the fake news bandwagon (9/11/2017 6:53:43 AM)


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ORIGINAL: jlf1961


quote:

ORIGINAL: Musicmystery


quote:

ORIGINAL: Hillwilliam

I never understood why trailers were allowed anydamnplace in FL.

Same reason shacks are allowed in Haiti -- because some people can't afford houses.



Except that, in many cases, the mobile homes cost as much as a regular house.

There is one dealership locally that has a triple wide mobile home that starts at 145K.

A triple has got to be at least 1500 sq feet - you'd have trouble find a house that size for $145k




Hillwilliam -> RE: Hey the weather channel has gotten on the fake news bandwagon (9/11/2017 6:57:20 AM)


quote:

ORIGINAL: jlf1961


quote:

ORIGINAL: heavyblinker

Ummm... so was the neighborhood destroyed or not?
I don't understand how it being a trailer park somehow makes it less of a neighborhood.

Fake news is stuff that doesn't have a shred of truth to it and tends to serve a purely political purpose-- like Pizzagate or Hillary was arrested yesterday.
If the story actually happened, then even if there's a whiff of sensationalism there it's still not fake news.




The point is that in order to get a maximum effect from the video, they chose to film the one area that would show complete and udder devastation, a mobile home park.

I have friends living in Naples, and they were the ones that brought it to my attention, basically saying that if you went by that footage, you would believe the entire town was flattened, which is not the case, in point of fact, that while the damage is bad, it is not near as bad as that clip implies.

Basically some roof damage, minor structural damage and a lot of water damage, but not complete devastation.

In other words, the producer who decided to use that footage picked a location to get maximum effect and imply that things were worse than they really are.

Mobile homes are going to take a beating in high winds. In fact, you cannot get a standard home owners policy, the insurance on a mobile home is considerably higher due to the fact they do get damaged easily.

One more thing on a mobile home, they are not considered permanent structures, so you get a title, like a car, to prove ownership.

The alternative is a modular home that is basically built in a factory, trucked to the site and set on a standard home foundation with the intent of never moving it again.

In those instances, the home owners insurance is the same as any other stick built home. And modular homes are usually (not always, depends on the company) built to a higher standard than a normal house since it has to be trucked to a location.

Firms building modular homes in the gulf and coastal states even design them so they can be placed on wood stilts or concrete pilings above the storm surge.

Some years ago, in a response to the fact that standard mobile homes cannot stand up to high winds, a bill was introduced in congress that would have basically made mobile homes uninsurable as permanent dwellings, which failed because the opposition claimed that they were a cheap alternative to standard constructed homes.

In SOME areas, Jeff, a modular home may be built better than a stick built but not most of FL.
Remember, in FL, a huge percentage of homes are concrete block. That's because MOST termites cant eat that stuff while a wooden structure is dessert.
Concrete block stands up better to wind than stick built.




jlf1961 -> RE: Hey the weather channel has gotten on the fake news bandwagon (9/11/2017 8:22:34 AM)


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ORIGINAL: Hillwilliam

In SOME areas, Jeff, a modular home may be built better than a stick built but not most of FL.
Remember, in FL, a huge percentage of homes are concrete block. That's because MOST termites cant eat that stuff while a wooden structure is dessert.
Concrete block stands up better to wind than stick built.


really?




Hillwilliam -> RE: Hey the weather channel has gotten on the fake news bandwagon (9/11/2017 8:25:02 AM)


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ORIGINAL: jlf1961


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ORIGINAL: Hillwilliam

In SOME areas, Jeff, a modular home may be built better than a stick built but not most of FL.
Remember, in FL, a huge percentage of homes are concrete block. That's because MOST termites cant eat that stuff while a wooden structure is dessert.
Concrete block stands up better to wind than stick built.


really?

I saw a lot of 2x4's shattering against masonry.




ThatDizzyChick -> RE: Hey the weather channel has gotten on the fake news bandwagon (9/11/2017 8:27:33 AM)

It was a neighbourhood and it was destroyed. How is that fake news?




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