MrRodgers
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ORIGINAL: Nnanji First a Republican president does a deal with Democrats. No link, you've all seen it. Now: http://m.jpost.com/Arab-Israeli-Conflict/Did-the-Saudi-Crown-Prince-make-a-covert-visit-to-Israel-504777 Arab leaders visiting Israel. But... Didn't Jimmy Carter bring peace to the Middle East??? They all said... ! Now President TRUMP is doing it instead??? You're comparing el presidente to Carter? I thought that was a terminal insult* in republican circles... *(an insult so insulting that if you say it to somebody, one of you is going to die) Carter was an awesome human being but leader, not so much. I daresay that he couldn't lead pissants to a picnic. I certainly admire the stuff he's done since 1980 a lot more than his presidential career, but that doesn't alter the fact that he made an attempt to drain the swamp (all of which Reagan did away the second he got into the white house), suggested that an economic dependency on Arab oil wasn't a good thing (the oil crisis was already going when he said that, of course, but unlike his predecessor he didn't spend his term in office denying it was causing problems), took a hand in the D of E, and made a point of establishing financial disclosure rules on his donors . However big a fuck up of the hostage mess he made (and that was, if we're honest, as much the CIA making a point of fucking him up as incompetence on Carter's part), he certainly wasn't anything like the catastrophe he gets painted as, and if anybody can name anything an American president has done in the middle east that has proven more beneficial than the Camp David accord syrup boy is mocking since then, I haven't heard about it. Remember Iran, Desert one, and his helping the terrorists take over Iran. Far outweighs Camp David. How did he help the jihadists take over Iran? Something like Khomeni became inevitable as soon as Truman deposed Mossadeq and put the shah back in power. How was he Carter's fault? Show your working out. You don't remember do you that Carter undermined the Shah and helped Khomeni get into Iran.. Then he totally mishandled the hostage situation including sending a rescue mission which was proven to have no chance of doing anything other than get Americans killed. Before they left it was proven that the choppers couldn't handle the sand so he handed the jihadist a propaganda victory to get an edge on Kennedy. Of course you claim to be from Saudi so you see anything that works out for radicals as being inevitable. I don't care about people's place of origin but the rest is as usual...unmitigated bullshit. Choppers have been working fine in Iraqi, Kuwaiti and Saudi desert sands. And what struck Desert 1 was a huge sand storm, impossible to predict and obviously much less of a risk than to 241 marines in their sleep on a Sunday morning. Nothing but cheap ad hominem partisan attacks on Carter and because you have nothing else and most of the time. Plus you are going to need to explain just how Carter undermined the Shah. Did offering medical care do it ? In fact in terms of what really happened is that the Shah left Iran in Jan. 79 and in Feb. the Iranian govt, invited Khomeini into Iran. Where was the oh so glorious and patriotic 'oil-saving' CIA then ?
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You can be a murderous tyrant and the world will remember you fondly but fuck one horse and you will be a horse fucker for all eternity. Catherine the Great Under capitalism, man exploits man. Under communism, it's just the opposite. J K Galbraith
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