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ORIGINAL: MercTech
Sheesh, Hillary Clinton lost the election because enough people were disgusted at her 30+ year history of questionable ethics.
Move on and leave the has been to the back burner of history where she belongs.

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ORIGINAL: servantforuse

That is exactly why it is there. Luci doesn't like that part of it.

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You may have noticed Hillary Clinton back on your TV screen lately. She's promoting her new book, What Happened, in which she offers her side of the story as to how she lost to Donald Trump in the 2016 presidential election. We've heard most of it before. She blames FBI Director James Comey for reopening her email investigation 11 days before the election. She blames Russian President Vladimir Putin for supposedly colluding with Trump associates to sink her campaign.

Yet, when she sat down with CNN's Andersoon Cooper, she offered a suggestion for future elections: Get rid of the electoral college.

"I think it needs to be eliminated," Clinton said of the Electoral College. "I'd like to see us move beyond it, yes."

She said the same thing in 2000, when Democrat Al Gore lost the general election to George W. Bush, despite garnering more popular votes. But, she is bringing it up again now that she has experienced the same disappointment. In last November's contest, Trump won 304 electoral college votes to Clinton's 227 votes. But, she much prefers talking about the popular vote, which she "won" by 3 million votes.

"It should be one person, one vote," she said, both reflecting on the loss and looking forward.

After Trump emerged the victor, other top Democrats like Sen. Barbara Boxer (D-CA) voiced support for abolishing the electoral college system. She introduced a bill a week after the election to end the "outdated, undemocratic system."

So far, it's all talk.

In their conversation, Clinton told Cooper that had she been in Trump's shoes and won and reports suggested that Russia had intervened on her behalf, she would have launched an outright investigation on day one.

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ORIGINAL: DesideriScuri

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ORIGINAL: MercTech
Sheesh, Hillary Clinton lost the election because enough people were disgusted at her 30+ year history of questionable ethics.
Move on and leave the has been to the back burner of history where she belongs.

SHE won't go gentle into that good night. If she would, this thread wouldn't exist. She is keeping herself in the spotlight, hopefully for the final time.

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Hillary’s got a new book out, “What Happened,” that explains her 2016 election loss and blames just about everyone and everything for her defeat to Donald Trump. A lot of Democrats aren’t too pleased with her continued efforts to be in the limelight and wish she would just bow out of public life. Piers Morgan even excoriated the former secretary of state Thursday in an editorial, in which he described her book as an “elongated case for the defense of abject failure.”

“Hillary is doing herself no favors with this prolonged, agonizing Loser tour,” he wrote. “In fact, with every new appearance she makes to complain ever more bitterly about the unfairness of her defeat, and to blame an ever longer list of people other than herself for it, she is further diminished.

“More worryingly for the Democrats, what she is doing is causing huge damage to the party's chances of rebounding from the catastrophe of last November.”

Morgan, like other Democrats, begs Clinton to pack it up and stop talking before she takes the Democratic Party down with her.

But defiant Hillary says she’s not going anywhere.

Clinton shrugged off a question by NPR’s Rachel Martin if she’s “reconciled that, that people might not want you around as the party steps forward.”

“Well, they don’t have to buy my book, and they can turn off the radio when they hear me talking. I’m not going anywhere,” Clinton said.

“I have the experience, I have the insight, I have the scars that I think give me not only the right, but the responsibility to speak out. And 2018 is going to be incredibly momentous. We have a chance I won 24 congressional districts that have a Republican member of Congress sitting in them. And I think that gives us some idea that maybe, if we are really focused we have a chance to pick up seats, maybe take back the House. We’ve got to defend the Democratic senators,” she added.

Clinton said she has a lot of ideas for how to do that and people are already seeking her input going forward.

“There will always be the naysayers,” she continued. “I understand that and most of them as you might notice are anonymous, but that’s fine. But I’m responding to a very large outpouring of people who want to know what I have to say, who are excited that I’m not going to be, you know, slipping away into the background, but going to stay front and center, doing what I can to try to speak out on behalf of this country that I love, and just want to do everything I can to make sure it’s strong going forward.”

The majority of Americans disagree, however.

According to a Rasmussen poll published the same day as Clinton’s book release, 61 percent of likely voters think it’s time for her to retire.

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ORIGINAL: servantforuse

Delete the votes from CA and NY, then look at the popular vote. Not so pretty for the dems.

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In all, while Trump’s approval ratings might be in the low 40s by the time the 2018 midterms hit, it’s appallingly naïve for the Left to think a blue wave is coming based on that factor alone. Right now, as one media operative noted, “If that’s the attitude that’s driving the Democratic Party, we’re going to drive right into the ocean.” For some memos to candidates...even some are suggesting the party’s agenda is just too bi-coastal, too elite, too out-of-touch, which pretty much represents the issues plaguing the Democratic Party

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ORIGINAL: Lucylastic
Im just waiting for the investigation t be over:)

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ORIGINAL: Real0ne

naked allegations, nothing there

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ORIGINAL: bounty44

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ORIGINAL: servantforuse

Delete the votes from CA and NY, then look at the popular vote. Not so pretty for the dems.

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In all, while Trump’s approval ratings might be in the low 40s by the time the 2018 midterms hit, it’s appallingly naïve for the Left to think a blue wave is coming based on that factor alone. Right now, as one media operative noted, “If that’s the attitude that’s driving the Democratic Party, we’re going to drive right into the ocean.” For some memos to candidates...even some are suggesting the party’s agenda is just too bi-coastal, too elite, too out-of-touch, which pretty much represents the issues plaguing the Democratic Party

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Should we be cognizant of what's going on? Absolutely. Should we try to counter it? I think that's going to be quite a bit more difficult, as we don't necessarily know what's foreign propaganda and what isn't; at least not at the time it's gong on. For example, it's going to be a bit tough to counter any Facebook propaganda the Russian government may have put forth prior to the 2016 election. Unless you have a functional WABAC machine, it's pretty damn impossible.

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ORIGINAL: Real0ne
naked allegations, nothing there

Hundreds of phony posters with made up handles and avatars and thousands of bots all pushing the anti-Hillary right wing agenda. I wonder if anybody on this forum is being paid in rubles?

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