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What say you? - 9/13/2017 4:06:10 PM   
CreativeDominant


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Status: offline 		The story about this video came across my facebook page this afternoon. The video can be found here:

https://youtu.be/qku2WZ7aRYw

Related to the video:

http://narrative-collapse.com/2017/09/13/gangster-rapper-depicts-white-child-being-lynched-youtube-approves/

http://www.rap-up.com/2017/09/12/video-xxxtentacion-look-at-me/

https://www.google.com/amp/s/ijr.com/the-declaration/2017/09/973103-new-social-justice-rap-video-glorifies-killing-white-teacher-hanging-white-child/amp/

Oddly enough, the Black Entertainment Television website only refers to the video as provocative and disturbing:

https://www.google.com/amp/www.bet.com/music/2017/09/13/xxxtentacion-look-at-me-music-video-reactions.amp.html

Any bets as to what YouTube would do if a submitted video depicted the white singer showing a white child how to hang a black child? I doubt they'd accept it but...what say you?
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RE: What say you? - 9/13/2017 4:16:53 PM   
tamaka


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RE: What say you? - 9/13/2017 5:27:46 PM   
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Rather, whites are the only race that it's okay discriminate against

And for giggles, they call it "privilege"

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RE: What say you? - 9/13/2017 6:33:09 PM   
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Status: offline 		If you really want to be called a racist start a thread on why and how whites, or rather non-blacks, became the most powerful and successful races.

If... through the progress and evolution of mankind... Blacks were to have come to dominate civilization they would earn the right to be called privileged... and the moniker would be correct.

Otherwise...were we, the white race, obligated to share our good fortune with the less fortunate? I think so... instead we used this fortune to subjugate ...so we deserve to be called privileged as a derogatory term... But this should not paint our race forever and I believe we are well on our way in making amends.

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RE: What say you? - 9/13/2017 7:33:42 PM   
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If you really want to be called a racist start a thread on why and how whites, or rather non-blacks, became the most powerful and successful races.

Not in the least, in fact I am reading an interesting book on just that question. It is called Guns, Germs, and Steel, and the basic premise is that it is due to a number of environmental factors that affected the socio-cultural development in areas that just happened to be inhabited by white people.

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RE: What say you? - 9/13/2017 7:34:56 PM   
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There is nothing derogatory about it, it is simply a fact of life in Europe and North America.

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RE: What say you? - 9/13/2017 8:25:19 PM   
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Status: offline 		I think it is used in a derogatory way by those that want to assign blame for their predicament in life or those that are ashamed of being born into good fortune. There is blame... of that their is no doubt but is the blame to be assigned to all whites for all time... This term rubs many whites...that are not racists, the wrong way.

Yes indeed... many will say get over the butt hurt to those that do not like to be called privileged in this sense...But those saying that need to understand the use of this term is not doing them any favors in reality... otherwise it is causing a backlash that is real... like it or not...and it will only harden views against them.

If you don't think many believe this is an unfair characterization of hard working whites... just wait for the comments here.

Butch

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RE: What say you? - 9/13/2017 8:34:37 PM   
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I think it is used in a derogatory way by those that want to assign blame for their predicament in life or those that are ashamed of being born into good fortune. There is blame... of that their is no doubt but is the blame to be assigned to all whites for all time... This term rubs many whites...that are not racists, the wrong way.

Yes indeed... many will say get over the butt hurt to those that do not like to be called privileged in this sense...But those saying that need to understand the use of this term is not doing them any favors in reality... otherwise it is causing a backlash that is real... like it or not...and it will only harden views against them.

If you don't think many believe this is an unfair characterization of hard working whites... just wait for the comments here.

Butch


I already made my 'hard work' comments on another thread the other day. Privilege is a word used by people who don't know the meaning of hard-work and don't want to. So they make up this idea that everything 'appeared' as a privilege (vs. earned via hard work and sacrifice).

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RE: What say you? - 9/13/2017 8:45:08 PM   
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Status: offline 		I don't think it has to do with people not wanting to work... I think there are real divisions in prosperity between races that are the result of PAST racism. I see nothing wrong with pointing out this division...but blaming is not the way to go... Maybe asking for help would be better. Good people are just living their lives and are not always aware of others problems.

Butch

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RE: What say you? - 9/13/2017 9:32:26 PM   
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I don't think it has to do with people not wanting to work... I think there are real divisions in prosperity between races that are the result of PAST racism. I see nothing wrong with pointing out this division...but blaming is not the way to go... Maybe asking for help would be better.

Butch


actually more like past AND present racism. I am experiencing part of that reality just getting out of college this year job hunting with a side order of age discrimination. "help" isn't the right word.... "progressive change" I think would be better.

I don't want a hand out, I don't want an "allowance", I surely don't want to be part of a "quota", I want to be measured by My actual abilities to do the job I would be assigned to do ....and that I would be an asset to the company.... measured the same yardstick used on anyone else applying for the same job as any other human being.

"privilege" only pisses off those who don't know they are given it solely for who they are.....or know it and don't want to give it up. Ether way it cheapens their work or accomplishments if others know they have it, hence why they hate it pointed out to them.

They really should be pissed off it exists, and many people like them who are more intelligent who know the truth, and have pointed it out, - already are.






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RE: What say you? - 9/13/2017 9:34:44 PM   
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RE: What say you? - 9/13/2017 9:50:20 PM   
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I think you will do just fine.


Well... it depends on how he comes across in an interview.

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RE: What say you? - 9/13/2017 9:50:45 PM   
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I already made my 'hard work' comments on another thread the other day. Privilege is a word used by people who don't know the meaning of hard-work and don't want to. So they make up this idea that everything 'appeared' as a privilege (vs. earned via hard work and sacrifice).


So then why do I see on a daily basis so many of African descent and from Mexico and S America and China and India working their arse off everyday, even as stupid Protestant motherfuckers indeed 'work' to fuck everything up and steal wealth from retirees and lowest echelon of society?

That's not every white person's problem, but then if you don't understand that immigrants are for purpose of keeping all wages low, you are clueless to begin with.

That's just history, and the "liberal media" have hated the cause of workers from day one. Get a clue.

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RE: What say you? - 9/13/2017 10:05:50 PM   
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ORIGINAL: kdsub

I think you will do just fine.


Well... it depends on how he comes across in an interview.


I 'd hire him... or her.. He had an excellent counter point to my comment.

Butch

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RE: What say you? - 9/13/2017 10:10:03 PM   
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ORIGINAL: tamaka


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ORIGINAL: kdsub

I think you will do just fine.


Well... it depends on how he comes across in an interview.


I 'd hire him... or her.. He had an excellent counter point to my comment.

Butch


Yes he did but he also has an arrogance about him and he 'talks down' to people.

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RE: What say you? - 9/13/2017 10:14:53 PM   
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I don't think it has to do with people not wanting to work... I think there are real divisions in prosperity between races that are the result of PAST racism. I see nothing wrong with pointing out this division...but blaming is not the way to go... Maybe asking for help would be better.
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Maybe there are a lot of 'them' who don't want your or my help. Maybe if they could just make it to class with out being shot would be all the help they need.


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Good people are just living their lives and are not always aware of others problems.


I don't disagree there. People have kids, gotta get to the grocery store, etc. But I can't imagine at least not going into black people's houses like I did or these black kids playing in my house for hours. If in the right circumstance, it's all conjoined and natural and who's even paying attention.




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RE: What say you? - 9/13/2017 10:23:18 PM   
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ORIGINAL: tamaka


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ORIGINAL: kdsub


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ORIGINAL: tamaka


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ORIGINAL: kdsub

I think you will do just fine.


Well... it depends on how he comes across in an interview.


I 'd hire him... or her.. He had an excellent counter point to my comment.

Butch


Yes he did but he also has an arrogance about him and he 'talks down' to people.



u just don't like My not "sugar coating" it for u..... as a Black Man & a unashamed Liberal on here, while someone suggested I "humbly" present something,

I have discovered that unless I want to make a point without going through 10 pages of "humble" explanation, or lame "chicken fighting" type discussions, I have to damn near ram it down some of u's throat the first time.

its sad really, y'all know the point, but u wanna see if u can say something and not be called out on it.....




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What would the internet be like if we couldn't say trump is a moron?

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RE: What say you? - 9/13/2017 10:27:06 PM   
tamaka


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ORIGINAL: tamaka


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ORIGINAL: kdsub


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ORIGINAL: tamaka


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ORIGINAL: kdsub

I think you will do just fine.


Well... it depends on how he comes across in an interview.


I 'd hire him... or her.. He had an excellent counter point to my comment.

Butch


Yes he did but he also has an arrogance about him and he 'talks down' to people.



u just don't like My not "sugar coating" it for u..... as a liberal on here, while someone suggested I "humbly" present something,

I have discovered that unless I want to make a point without going through 10 pages of "humble" explanation, I have to damn near ram it down ur throat the first time.



it





No not at all. I wasn't even thinking of My personal interactions with u. As a hiring manager, i would question how well u would get along with coworkers and whether u could be an effective team player.

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RE: What say you? - 9/13/2017 10:36:23 PM   
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ORIGINAL: tamaka


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ORIGINAL: itsSIRtou


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ORIGINAL: tamaka


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ORIGINAL: kdsub


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ORIGINAL: tamaka


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ORIGINAL: kdsub

I think you will do just fine.


Well... it depends on how he comes across in an interview.


I 'd hire him... or her.. He had an excellent counter point to my comment.

Butch


Yes he did but he also has an arrogance about him and he 'talks down' to people.



u just don't like My not "sugar coating" it for u..... as a liberal on here, while someone suggested I "humbly" present something,

I have discovered that unless I want to make a point without going through 10 pages of "humble" explanation, I have to damn near ram it down ur throat the first time.



No not at all. I wasn't even thinking of My personal interactions with u. As a hiring manager, i would question how well u would get along with coworkers and whether u could be an effective team player.



that's what makes it so sad and irritating here.... I almost never have to be that "blunt force trauma" talking, debating, or working with anyone else BUT here..... hell, I don't even have to be like that to My slaves.

I'm a nice guy!!.... ASK ME!!


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I will allways be a knight, instead of a prince.

What would the internet be like if we couldn't say trump is a moron?

The Republican party complains government doesnt work for people, and then makes darn sure it cannot.

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RE: What say you? - 9/13/2017 10:39:43 PM   
tamaka


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ORIGINAL: itsSIRtou


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ORIGINAL: tamaka


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ORIGINAL: itsSIRtou


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ORIGINAL: tamaka


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ORIGINAL: kdsub


quote:

ORIGINAL: tamaka


quote:

ORIGINAL: kdsub

I think you will do just fine.


Well... it depends on how he comes across in an interview.


I 'd hire him... or her.. He had an excellent counter point to my comment.

Butch


Yes he did but he also has an arrogance about him and he 'talks down' to people.



u just don't like My not "sugar coating" it for u..... as a liberal on here, while someone suggested I "humbly" present something,

I have discovered that unless I want to make a point without going through 10 pages of "humble" explanation, I have to damn near ram it down ur throat the first time.



No not at all. I wasn't even thinking of My personal interactions with u. As a hiring manager, i would question how well u would get along with coworkers and whether u could be an effective team player.



that's what makes it so sad and irritating here.... I almost never have to be that "blunt force trauma" talking, debating, or working with anyone else BUT here..... hell, I don't even have to be like that to My slaves.





Well, it is not one of your redeeming qualities that you can't keep your attitude in check when dealing with others. And hiring managers are looking for things like your attitude and personality in frustrating situations, etc at least as much as they are evaluating your skills, education, etc.

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