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Hacking from Russia...or anybody. - 9/17/2017 11:58:15 PM   
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According to a new research report issued by cybersecurity firm Symantec, there is a hacking group capable of disrupting the U.S. power grid.

In fact, a new wave of attacks recently did just that.

The hacking group calls itself Dragonfly. And it's been wreaking havoc on the power grids of Turkey, Switzerland and the U.S.

The group has been in operation since 2011 and has reemerged over the past two years with more frequent attacks.

Dragonfly's attacks are becoming increasingly more sophisticated. And it doesn't have to overcome technical hurdles...

In fact, according to Symantec researchers, there's just one thing keeping Dragonfly from bringing down the entire grid: a lack of motivation.

Like so many other hacker groups, Dragonfly consists of ultra-smart individuals. Many speculate that most of the group is Russian due to the fact that many of the code strings that have been found are in Russian.

However, some of the code is of French origin... but that's likely just a tactic to throw investigators off the scent.

In Dragonfly's most recent attack, it compromised about a dozen utilities around the U.S. At least three of them said the operational side of their grids was hacked.

That means Dragonfly had access to virtually every component of the grid. Generators, switchyards and other key components were at risk.

Utilities have one network for administrative computers and a second one for grid operation. Utilities do their best to isolate the two, but they generally never achieve 100% separation.

All hackers need is a single juncture to hop from one network to the other... and then it's showtime.

Not until two years ago was Dragonfly able to do this. That's when it reemerged in what Symantec now calls the "Dragonfly 2.0" campaign. The group now has more sophisticated tools that make it harder for Symantec and U.S. government organizations to track it.

In 2014, Dragonfly successfully hacked into the administrative side of the power sector.

But the most recent campaign has targeted computer systems that control the grid.

Symantec believes Dragonfly is state-sponsored. The Russians have a long reputation of state-sponsored hacking.

Now that they have access to the grid side of the network, hackers are in the driver's seat.

Our power grids are more vulnerable than they've ever been.

Probably the hottest market since the anti-virus splash...cyber security against hackers getting in.

Look at what happened to Sony a few years back (Sony costs...$170 Million, $3.1B Total Loss for 2011 for Sony Entertainment) and just now, Equifax. And some analyst say now that there two types of networks.

.....those networks that operators know have been hacked.

.....and those that have been hacked but operators don't know it yet.

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RE: Hacking from Russia...or anybody. - 9/18/2017 6:57:21 AM   
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spare me, the french code is just to throw us off the trail of the russians! sure, of course.

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RE: Hacking from Russia...or anybody. - 9/18/2017 8:17:50 AM   
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spare me, the french code is just to throw us off the trail of the russians! sure, of course.

So the French are hacking into our power grid ? Why ? That is the only alternative conclusion one could draw.

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RE: Hacking from Russia...or anybody. - 9/18/2017 8:19:56 AM   
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spare me, the french code is just to throw us off the trail of the russians! sure, of course.

So the French are hacking into our power grid ? Why ? That is the only alternative conclusion one could draw.


Because they are Jews?

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RE: Hacking from Russia...or anybody. - 9/18/2017 8:26:39 AM   
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spare me, the french code is just to throw us off the trail of the russians! sure, of course.


The only way you could know that for certain is if you were one if the Russians.

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RE: Hacking from Russia...or anybody. - 9/18/2017 9:55:39 AM   
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quote:

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spare me, the french code is just to throw us off the trail of the russians! sure, of course.

So the French are hacking into our power grid ? Why ? That is the only alternative conclusion one could draw.


the point is that its al propaganda to keep the attention on russia, SOP when something else is going down they dont want us to see. mercanz fall for it every time


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RE: Hacking from Russia...or anybody. - 9/18/2017 11:43:26 AM   
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spare me, the french code is just to throw us off the trail of the russians! sure, of course.

Or because hackers will use any code they can find in any language at all that functions to do the job they want it. It's not like they kludge stuff together from whatever they can find on download sites rather than writing all of their own code, after all. A lot of Russians speak pretty decent French.

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RE: Hacking from Russia...or anybody. - 9/18/2017 1:25:30 PM   
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The Russians, who are already in, would not have used French code but they would be in my top four. I thought America was in everyones system even its allies? ISIS do not have the capability or tech knowledge or resources. So that leaves you with:
NK
China
Iran
Russia
then sundry others.

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RE: Hacking from Russia...or anybody. - 9/18/2017 1:38:52 PM   
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It depends on how the Russians compiled the code they're using. Teh hax0r d00ds will compile scripts using stuff from all over rather than writing it themselves, as there all sorts of code repositories to grab routines that match that you want from: the notion of some smartarse sitting in their parent's cellar and writing a whole programme by themself went out with computers that had less than a megabyte of storage memory and the rise of bloatware. The software companies don't optimise code anymore, so the notion that some tool who's just to cause trouble will is ridiculous.

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RE: Hacking from Russia...or anybody. - 9/18/2017 1:58:48 PM   
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Who can it be?

The Americans are already in everywhere, but so are the Russians, Chinese and British, and possibly the Israelis. It is rather unlikely the aforementioned would mount an utility attack.

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RE: Hacking from Russia...or anybody. - 9/18/2017 3:23:53 PM   
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Fast Reply:

This never gets old.

NEW RESEARCH REVEALS: Evil geniuses have developed new [fill in the blank] weapon.

A couple more stories from a few months ago and a year and a few months ago:

http://www.sciencealert.com/russia-has-developed-a-cyber-weapon-that-can-disrupt-power-grids-new-research-finds

http://freebeacon.com/issues/fbi-warns-cyber-threat-electric-grid/



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RE: Hacking from Russia...or anybody. - 9/19/2017 9:44:13 AM   
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quote:

ORIGINAL: Aylee

Fast Reply:

This never gets old.

NEW RESEARCH REVEALS: Evil geniuses have developed new [fill in the blank] weapon.

A couple more stories from a few months ago and a year and a few months ago:

http://www.sciencealert.com/russia-has-developed-a-cyber-weapon-that-can-disrupt-power-grids-new-research-finds

http://freebeacon.com/issues/fbi-warns-cyber-threat-electric-grid/



Thing is with utilities, management will be tight with money, they will likely under protect, get reamed for allowing a damaging hack, cost the rate payers million$ and go about their uninspiring jobs.

Just another fact of economic disincentives our regulatory framework almost purposefully creates.

Experts despite the clarity of hindsight, agree that Sony should have been much better prepared but instead, were arrogant and it cost them big time.

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RE: Hacking from Russia...or anybody. - 9/19/2017 10:32:58 AM   
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quote:

ORIGINAL: MrRodgers

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ORIGINAL: Aylee

Fast Reply:

This never gets old.

NEW RESEARCH REVEALS: Evil geniuses have developed new [fill in the blank] weapon.

A couple more stories from a few months ago and a year and a few months ago:

http://www.sciencealert.com/russia-has-developed-a-cyber-weapon-that-can-disrupt-power-grids-new-research-finds

http://freebeacon.com/issues/fbi-warns-cyber-threat-electric-grid/



Thing is with utilities, management will be tight with money, they will likely under protect, get reamed for allowing a damaging hack, cost the rate payers million$ and go about their uninspiring jobs.

Just another fact of economic disincentives our regulatory framework almost purposefully creates.

Experts despite the clarity of hindsight, agree that Sony should have been much better prepared but instead, were arrogant and it cost them big time.

Yep.

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