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Greta75 -> Myammar Situation (9/18/2017 3:49:48 AM)

I love how like every Lib writer out there is using Myammar as an example why the violence in Islam has nothing to do with Islam. Claiming that Buddhist are capable of violence too.

They forgot though, that the Myammar Military waging violence IS NOT IN THE NAME OF BUDDHISM! You don't hear them screaming, "Buddha be praised!" And then go slaughtering people.

What it is about is These Rohingya were like illegal immigrants gazillion years ago from Bangladesh and up till now, Myammar still refuse to recognise them as legal immigrants. None of them got legal status to stay in Myammar.

And at the same time, These Rohingyas went to burn villages of local Buddhist Myammar people and murder some folks in the Myammar Military. There is a Militant Arm of Rohingya that has been attacking innocent Myammar people until they ambushed and killed a bunch of Military. And the Military strikes back.

So what is happening is, Illegal Immigrants basically went to kill law enforcers of Myammar. Of course the Law Enforcers are gonna push them all back to Bangladesh where they belong.

The other nonsensical news is how violence against Rohingya is empowering Extremist Muslims including ISIS to call for Jihad to attack Myammar. Indonesia and Malaysian ISIS members are all prepared to declare war on Myammar.

So...., here is the thing. Let's think about a non-muslim group of people who was persecuted in Iraq. The Yazadis? Despite them all being driven from their homes and murdered constantly by Muslims their entire lives, for worshiping some pagan religion. Do Yazadis turn extremist?

No. Zero. Yazadis simply turn the other cheek.

So this stupid bullshit about Islam not being violent is bullshit considering the reaction that is happening now.

And then trying to drag buddhism into this situation when it has nothing to do buddhism. Until I see those military actually yell that they are killing in the name of Buddha, like the Muslims love to yell that they are killing in the name of Allah.

Then tell me that those Buddhist Military is killing BECAUSE of their religion.

It is a Territory dispute that has been brewing for gazillion years that escalated. Plus I love how the media is soooo bias, they never bother reporting what the Myammar people suffered from the Rohingyas for years! If you read all the comments from Myammar people online, so many have first hand experience of Rohingyas persecuting them, burning down their village, they lost their homes to rohingyas and had to go hide in a buddhist temple where they were provided shelter. Because it's a battle of territory dispute and Rohingyas are trying to claim back land they feel belongs to them.

This is gonna be like Jews and Palestinians over land. Not gonna be resolved. It's best all Rohingyas move back to Bangladesh.




PeonForHer -> RE: Myammar Situation (9/18/2017 3:53:44 AM)

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They forgot though, that the Myammar Military waging violence IS NOT IN THE NAME OF BUDDHISM!


Well, that's all right, then. [:)]




Greta75 -> RE: Myammar Situation (9/18/2017 3:59:43 AM)

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ORIGINAL: PeonForHer

Well, that's all right, then. [:)]

It's actually quite alright for the Myammar military to be driving these terrorists away from their country.

I understand that Terrorist groups, like Taliban, also have women and children who don't fight. But their husbands are part of a terrorist organization. And ALL of them are illegal immigrants. They don't belong in Myammar. And 500k Rohingyas made it to Bangladesh. The only problem now is, Bangladesh don't want them back either.




Hillwilliam -> RE: Myammar Situation (9/18/2017 4:32:31 AM)


quote:

ORIGINAL: Greta75

I love how like every Lib writer out there is using Myammar as an example why the violence in Islam has nothing to do with Islam. Claiming that Buddhist are capable of violence too.



You are the first person who has mentioned Myanmar on these boards in quite some time.
By your logic, then, there are no liberals here as you said "every lib writer".

Can you see just hos fucking ignorant that sounds?

As usual[8|]




BoscoX -> RE: Myammar Situation (9/18/2017 5:39:41 AM)

quote:

ORIGINAL: Hillwilliam


quote:

ORIGINAL: Greta75

I love how like every Lib writer out there is using Myammar as an example why the violence in Islam has nothing to do with Islam. Claiming that Buddhist are capable of violence too.



You are the first person who has mentioned Myanmar on these boards in quite some time.
By your logic, then, there are no liberals here as you said "every lib writer".

Can you see just hos fucking ignorant that sounds?

As usual[8|]


In her part of the world, in the articles she has access to, I am sure it is a big deal

Not everything revolves around your little insane chicken world







jlf1961 -> RE: Myammar Situation (9/18/2017 6:29:00 AM)

So, they are kinda like the Kurds and Armenians in Turkey?

You know, basically been inhabiting the region for a few thousand years but declared non citizens by the government so they can be exterminated.

Makes everything alright, they dont belong there so genocide is a perfectly acceptable solution.

Hmm, come to think about it, India is just about as bad with the Sikhs, Punjabi people, Muslims and just about anyone not Hindu....

The Pol Pot government in Cambodia did that with 'non-citizen' tribesmen (and well their own people) when they controlled Cambodia...

Yup Greta, you finally made it to the universally accepted reason for genocide. You can be proud of yourself.




Hillwilliam -> RE: Myammar Situation (9/18/2017 6:41:31 AM)


quote:

ORIGINAL: BoscoX

quote:

ORIGINAL: Hillwilliam


quote:

ORIGINAL: Greta75

I love how like every Lib writer out there is using Myammar as an example why the violence in Islam has nothing to do with Islam. Claiming that Buddhist are capable of violence too.



You are the first person who has mentioned Myanmar on these boards in quite some time.
By your logic, then, there are no liberals here as you said "every lib writer".

Can you see just hos fucking ignorant that sounds?

As usual[8|]


In her part of the world, in the articles she has access to, I am sure it is a big deal

Not everything revolves around your little insane chicken world





I have a feeling she has access to this thing called "The Internet".

Your argument is one of the stupidest things to ever come off your keyboard.........and that's saying a LOT.[8|]




jlf1961 -> RE: Myammar Situation (9/18/2017 6:43:19 AM)


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ORIGINAL: Hillwilliam


quote:

ORIGINAL: BoscoX

quote:

ORIGINAL: Hillwilliam


quote:

ORIGINAL: Greta75

I love how like every Lib writer out there is using Myammar as an example why the violence in Islam has nothing to do with Islam. Claiming that Buddhist are capable of violence too.



You are the first person who has mentioned Myanmar on these boards in quite some time.
By your logic, then, there are no liberals here as you said "every lib writer".

Can you see just hos fucking ignorant that sounds?

As usual[8|]


In her part of the world, in the articles she has access to, I am sure it is a big deal

Not everything revolves around your little insane chicken world





I have a feeling she has access to this thing called "The Internet".

Your argument is one of the stupidest things to ever come off your keyboard.........and that's saying a LOT.[8|]


Yes she has access to the internet, however that does not make her points any more valid.

In fact, she is a stupid bitch with the IQ lower than a rock.




Hillwilliam -> RE: Myammar Situation (9/18/2017 6:58:08 AM)


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ORIGINAL: jlf1961


quote:

ORIGINAL: Hillwilliam


quote:

ORIGINAL: BoscoX

quote:

ORIGINAL: Hillwilliam


quote:

ORIGINAL: Greta75

I love how like every Lib writer out there is using Myammar as an example why the violence in Islam has nothing to do with Islam. Claiming that Buddhist are capable of violence too.



You are the first person who has mentioned Myanmar on these boards in quite some time.
By your logic, then, there are no liberals here as you said "every lib writer".

Can you see just hos fucking ignorant that sounds?

As usual[8|]


In her part of the world, in the articles she has access to, I am sure it is a big deal

Not everything revolves around your little insane chicken world





I have a feeling she has access to this thing called "The Internet".

Your argument is one of the stupidest things to ever come off your keyboard.........and that's saying a LOT.[8|]


Yes she has access to the internet, however that does not make her points any more valid.

In fact, she is a stupid bitch with the IQ lower than a rock.

Just syrup boy's type in other words.[8D]




Rule -> RE: Myammar Situation (9/18/2017 7:14:38 AM)

It appears that for some unknown reason the people of that country strenuously object against the presence of children of circumcized males in their country. Which is strange.




Greta75 -> RE: Myammar Situation (9/18/2017 8:47:03 AM)

quote:

ORIGINAL: Hillwilliam


quote:

ORIGINAL: Greta75

I love how like every Lib writer out there is using Myammar as an example why the violence in Islam has nothing to do with Islam. Claiming that Buddhist are capable of violence too.



You are the first person who has mentioned Myanmar on these boards in quite some time.
By your logic, then, there are no liberals here as you said "every lib writer".

Can you see just hos fucking ignorant that sounds?

As usual[8|]

When I say "Lib Writer", I mean journalists. People who writes news for a career. Not referring to forum posters here. I would call the forum posters here, just "Libs".

I wouldn't call them "writers".




Greta75 -> RE: Myammar Situation (9/18/2017 8:50:33 AM)

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ORIGINAL: jlf1961
Makes everything alright, they dont belong there so genocide is a perfectly acceptable solution.

I see no Genocide happening. I only see Military chasing them out of the country. The Rohingyas were mostly ignored at first, until they started it first by burning the homes of Myammar people and raping their women.

Now the Military punished them by burning their homes and chasing them and forcing them to get back to Bangladash.

I don't think Myammar goal was to murder all of them. Their goal was to force them to return to their home country as they are illegals. So they don't gotta deal with their militants hurting their country's people.

And it's a success. All the Rohingyas are back in Bangladesh! Their real home! Humanitarian aid is gonna be provided, they gonna be settled back in Bangladesh. Rohingyas terrorists will probably keep attacking the Myammar Army non stop still, but at least all their women and children are back in Bangladesh, so it can just be terrorists versus the Myammar Military now. I mean, 500k made it there! New life back in their homeland. They should have travelled back long ago.

If they weren't stateless people. Myammar would have round them all out and officially deported them back to Bangladesh.

But this is the only way to force Bangladesh to take them back.




jlf1961 -> RE: Myammar Situation (9/18/2017 10:27:48 AM)


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ORIGINAL: Greta75

quote:

ORIGINAL: jlf1961
Makes everything alright, they dont belong there so genocide is a perfectly acceptable solution.

I see no Genocide happening. I only see Military chasing them out of the country. The Rohingyas were mostly ignored at first, until they started it first by burning the homes of Myammar people and raping their women.

Now the Military punished them by burning their homes and chasing them and forcing them to get back to Bangladash.

I don't think Myammar goal was to murder all of them. Their goal was to force them to return to their home country as they are illegals. So they don't gotta deal with their militants hurting their country's people.

And it's a success. All the Rohingyas are back in Bangladesh! Their real home! Humanitarian aid is gonna be provided, they gonna be settled back in Bangladesh. Rohingyas terrorists will probably keep attacking the Myammar Army non stop still, but at least all their women and children are back in Bangladesh, so it can just be terrorists versus the Myammar Military now. I mean, 500k made it there! New life back in their homeland. They should have travelled back long ago.

If they weren't stateless people. Myammar would have round them all out and officially deported them back to Bangladesh.

But this is the only way to force Bangladesh to take them back.



Hmm, lets look at a few facts:

1) the Rohignya have been living in that region that crosses the border into Bangladish for generations, longer than the Myammar government has existed.

2) In 1982 the Burma Citizenship law was passed that denied them citizenship, and done so after they started returning to the region after fleeing the area in the 70's.

3) While they can qualify as citizens if they can prove that their family have been living in what is now Burma before 1823. Not that hard for tribesmen that didnt record births with the British Colonial government that controlled the region....

4) While they do not count as citizens, they are allowed to be used as forced labor for no pay.

5) they are not entitled to education facilities, but are entitled to very limited medical care providing they can meet some of the citizenship requirements of the 1982 citizenship law.

And you are correct, there is no genocide, so what if landmines are planted around a village prior to troops going in and burning it to the ground, it is not the government's fault if people fleeing the burning village happens to step on a mine and blow themselves to hell by accident.

Nor is it genocide to set a hut on fire without telling people hiding in the hut you are doing so.

Nor does it matter if the Rohignya have been persecuted by the Burmese government since the country was established, does it?

Of course, there is another justification you conveniently left out, isnt there?

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The Security Council did condemn the violence last week, its first such unified statement on Myanmar in nine years. But China blocked an effort by Egypt to add language calling for Rohingya refugees to be guaranteed the right to return to Myanmar from Bangladesh, Agence France-Presse reported. The government of Myanmar, a majority-Buddhist country, does not recognize the Rohingya, most of whom are Muslim, as citizens.

And you are correct, the appropriate term used by the UN as well as every human rights organization around the world, is Ethnic Cleansing. I mean so what if the Myanmar group has sealed the region from outside investigators which is an effective way to make damn sure that no one says anything than the government approved statements.

What is funny is the fact that their are reports that those Rohignya who are Buddhist are given a free pass and left alone.

Greta, you are letting your true colors show.




WhoreMods -> RE: Myammar Situation (9/18/2017 11:47:52 AM)


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ORIGINAL: Greta75

quote:

ORIGINAL: Hillwilliam


quote:

ORIGINAL: Greta75

I love how like every Lib writer out there is using Myammar as an example why the violence in Islam has nothing to do with Islam. Claiming that Buddhist are capable of violence too.



You are the first person who has mentioned Myanmar on these boards in quite some time.
By your logic, then, there are no liberals here as you said "every lib writer".

Can you see just hos fucking ignorant that sounds?

As usual[8|]

When I say "Lib Writer", I mean journalists. People who writes news for a career. Not referring to forum posters here. I would call the forum posters here, just "Libs".

I wouldn't call them "writers".

Thanks for clarifying that: I thought you were saying "liberators" with your mouth full or something.




Hillwilliam -> RE: Myammar Situation (9/18/2017 11:49:37 AM)


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ORIGINAL: Greta75

quote:

ORIGINAL: Hillwilliam


quote:

ORIGINAL: Greta75

I love how like every Lib writer out there is using Myammar as an example why the violence in Islam has nothing to do with Islam. Claiming that Buddhist are capable of violence too.



You are the first person who has mentioned Myanmar on these boards in quite some time.
By your logic, then, there are no liberals here as you said "every lib writer".

Can you see just hos fucking ignorant that sounds?

As usual[8|]

When I say "Lib Writer", I mean journalists. People who writes news for a career. Not referring to forum posters here. I would call the forum posters here, just "Libs".

I wouldn't call them "writers".

Care to supply a link or 12. I mean if E VERY lib writer is doing articles on it, there must be bunches of them.

Or are you just full of crap as usual?




Greta75 -> RE: Myammar Situation (9/18/2017 4:51:07 PM)


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ORIGINAL: Hillwilliam
Care to supply a link or 12. I mean if E VERY lib writer is doing articles on it, there must be bunches of them.

Or are you just full of crap as usual?

Oh please, it's in the mainstream news. I don't have to link anything that is such a big news right now, that every lib media is writing about. The angle they are portraying.




Greta75 -> RE: Myammar Situation (9/18/2017 5:03:57 PM)

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ORIGINAL: jlf1961
1) the Rohignya have been living in that region that crosses the border into Bangladish for generations, longer than the Myammar government has existed.

What has the existence of the Myammar government gotta do with anything? They were officially illegal immigrants from old times. This is like the DCDA thingy in the US. Just because they illegally cross over years ago, doesn't mean they get to enjoy legal status.

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2) In 1982 the Burma Citizenship law was passed that denied them citizenship, and done so after they started returning to the region after fleeing the area in the 70's.

Uh huh, illegal immigrants leaving and then coming back....., nothing to see here.

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4) While they do not count as citizens, they are allowed to be used as forced labor for no pay.

Voluntarily right? Don't tell me now you are accusing Myammar of enslaving them for hard labour.

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5) they are not entitled to education facilities, but are entitled to very limited medical care providing they can meet some of the citizenship requirements of the 1982 citizenship law.

They are illegal immigrants. Even illegals in my country are not entitled to anything.

quote:

And you are correct, there is no genocide, so what if landmines are planted around a village prior to troops going in and burning it to the ground, it is not the government's fault if people fleeing the burning village happens to step on a mine and blow themselves to hell by accident.

That's a pretty good strategy to force them to return to Bangladesh if they can't safely live in the illegal parts they want they to live in. I bet you if US build land mines on their border instead of the humane wall Trump wants. They will have ALOT less illegals crossing over.

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Nor is it genocide to set a hut on fire without telling people hiding in the hut you are doing so.

I don't blame them for setting their huts on fire, because the Rohingyas have spent years setting Myammar people's huts on fire first. The first aggressors were Rohingyas before the Military punished them for it.

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Nor does it matter if the Rohignya have been persecuted by the Burmese government since the country was established, does it?

They were illegal immigrants. It's only in the US that they wanna defend illegal immigrants when in Asia, any illegal immigrant is a considered a criminal eligible for a very long jail term.


quote:

The Security Council did condemn the violence last week, its first such unified statement on Myanmar in nine years. But China blocked an effort by Egypt to add language calling for Rohingya refugees to be guaranteed the right to return to Myanmar from Bangladesh, Agence France-Presse reported. The government of Myanmar, a majority-Buddhist country, does not recognize the Rohingya, most of whom are Muslim, as citizens. And you are correct, the appropriate term used by the UN as well as every human rights organization around the world, is Ethnic Cleansing.

It's not a religious issue. UN and every human rights organisation are wrong in this one. Because these Rohingyas illegally go into Myammar and burn their villages and rape their women. And now Myammar fight back and UN calls it ethic cleansing. UN is fucked up and bias only because of Muslims. They are saying the retaliation by the Military is disproportionate. But Myammar is doing the right thing. Do they wanna be like Europe who is constantly plague by terrorists attack? No, they get rid of these aggressors and their families. Out of the country!

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What is funny is the fact that their are reports that those Rohignya who are Buddhist are given a free pass and left alone.

What bullshit about rohingyas being buddhists given free pass.

I wonder what source you got that bullshit from.

As far as I can see, this is Asia, and the way we work is, just like what China is doing with the Uighurs Muslims, they attack our people first, we don't hold back and exterminate all of them. You do realise these are countries that put people to death for selling drugs. Because we believe drugs ruin people's lives and can potentially kill, so it's treated as murder crime.

We don't show mercy to criminals. They illegally are situated in Myammar. And they started it first, and now they are crying about being persecuted.


The riots finally came after weeks of sectarian disputes including an allegedly gang rape and murder of a Rakhine woman by Rohingyas and killing of ten Burmese Muslims by Rakhines.[8] On 8 June 2012, Rohingyas started to burn Rakhine's Buddhist and other ethnic houses after returning from Friday's prayers in Maungdaw township. More than a dozen residents were killed in this riot by Rohingya Muslims.[9] State of emergency was declared in Rakhine, allowing military to participate in administration of the region.[10][11] As of 22 August, officially there had been 88 casualties – 57 Muslims and 31 Buddhists.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2012_Rakhine_State_riots

I think Muslim terrorists just need to get the message that, this isn't the West where they hold your hand and praise you for being peaceful when you kill their people and rape their women.

When you rape their women and kill their people, they are driving ALL of you out of the country. All I know this, this is a pattern with Muslims worldwide, they can dish it, but they can't take it.

They will commit their atrocities and when it bites them back ten folds, they cry ethic cleansing.




jlf1961 -> RE: Myammar Situation (9/18/2017 5:27:11 PM)

quote:

ORIGINAL: Greta75

quote:

ORIGINAL: jlf1961
1) the Rohignya have been living in that region that crosses the border into Bangladish for generations, longer than the Myammar government has existed.

What has the existence of the Myammar government gotta do with anything? They were officially illegal immigrants from old times. This is like the DCDA thingy in the US. Just because they illegally cross over years ago, doesn't mean they get to enjoy legal status.

quote:

2) In 1982 the Burma Citizenship law was passed that denied them citizenship, and done so after they started returning to the region after fleeing the area in the 70's.

Uh huh, illegal immigrants leaving and then coming back....., nothing to see here.

quote:

4) While they do not count as citizens, they are allowed to be used as forced labor for no pay.

Voluntarily right? Don't tell me now you are accusing Myammar of enslaving them for hard labour.

quote:

5) they are not entitled to education facilities, but are entitled to very limited medical care providing they can meet some of the citizenship requirements of the 1982 citizenship law.

They are illegal immigrants. Even illegals in my country are not entitled to anything.

quote:

And you are correct, there is no genocide, so what if landmines are planted around a village prior to troops going in and burning it to the ground, it is not the government's fault if people fleeing the burning village happens to step on a mine and blow themselves to hell by accident.

That's a pretty good strategy to force them to return to Bangladesh if they can't safely live in the illegal parts they want they to live in. I bet you if US build land mines on their border instead of the humane wall Trump wants. They will have ALOT less illegals crossing over.

quote:

Nor is it genocide to set a hut on fire without telling people hiding in the hut you are doing so.

I don't blame them for setting their huts on fire, because the Rohingyas have spent years setting Myammar people's huts on fire first. The first aggressors were Rohingyas before the Military punished them for it.

quote:

Nor does it matter if the Rohignya have been persecuted by the Burmese government since the country was established, does it?

They were illegal immigrants. It's only in the US that they wanna defend illegal immigrants when in Asia, any illegal immigrant is a considered a criminal eligible for a very long jail term.


quote:

The Security Council did condemn the violence last week, its first such unified statement on Myanmar in nine years. But China blocked an effort by Egypt to add language calling for Rohingya refugees to be guaranteed the right to return to Myanmar from Bangladesh, Agence France-Presse reported. The government of Myanmar, a majority-Buddhist country, does not recognize the Rohingya, most of whom are Muslim, as citizens. And you are correct, the appropriate term used by the UN as well as every human rights organization around the world, is Ethnic Cleansing.

It's not a religious issue. UN and every human rights organisation are wrong in this one. Because these Rohingyas illegally go into Myammar and burn their villages and rape their women. And now Myammar fight back and UN calls it ethic cleansing. UN is fucked up and bias only because of Muslims. They are saying the retaliation by the Military is disproportionate. But Myammar is doing the right thing. Do they wanna be like Europe who is constantly plague by terrorists attack? No, they get rid of these aggressors and their families. Out of the country!

quote:

What is funny is the fact that their are reports that those Rohignya who are Buddhist are given a free pass and left alone.

What bullshit about rohingyas being buddhists given free pass.

I wonder what source you got that bullshit from.

As far as I can see, this is Asia, and the way we work is, just like what China is doing with the Uighurs Muslims, they attack our people first, we don't hold back and exterminate all of them. You do realise these are countries that put people to death for selling drugs. Because we believe drugs ruin people's lives and can potentially kill, so it's treated as murder crime.

We don't show mercy to criminals. They illegally are situated in Myammar. And they started it first, and now they are crying about being persecuted.


The riots finally came after weeks of sectarian disputes including an allegedly gang rape and murder of a Rakhine woman by Rohingyas and killing of ten Burmese Muslims by Rakhines.[8] On 8 June 2012, Rohingyas started to burn Rakhine's Buddhist and other ethnic houses after returning from Friday's prayers in Maungdaw township. More than a dozen residents were killed in this riot by Rohingya Muslims.[9] State of emergency was declared in Rakhine, allowing military to participate in administration of the region.[10][11] As of 22 August, officially there had been 88 casualties – 57 Muslims and 31 Buddhists.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2012_Rakhine_State_riots

I think Muslim terrorists just need to get the message that, this isn't the West where they hold your hand and praise you for being peaceful when you kill their people and rape their women.

When you rape their women and kill their people, they are driving ALL of you out of the country. All I know this, this is a pattern with Muslims worldwide, they can dish it, but they can't take it.

They will commit their atrocities and when it bites them back ten folds, they cry ethic cleansing.



Okay, for one thing, THEY are not screaming ethnic cleansing, the United Nations is, along with Amnesty International, the International Red Cross and a few other small organizations and basing it on evidence gathered by people who crossed the border from Bangladish to check it out since the Burmese government will not let anyone from outside the country investigate the claims.

IF the government had nothing to fucking hide, they would not be barring members of the international red cross OR the United Nations to look into the acquisitions.

And how the fuck can anyone be illegal immigrants IF your people have been living in that region for a few thousand fucking years?

Hussein used that argument with the Kurds he gassed, did not matter if the Kurds had been living in that part of Iraq and Turkey since before Christ, they were still illegal in the eyes of Saddam Hussein.

Turks used the same justification for the Armenian genocide at the beginning of the 20th century.

That group of people were living in the region before Burma became a country, so there fore they have the same rights as anyone else. And they fled Burma in the 70's when the government pulled the same fucking shit, killing indiscriminately.

As for the forced labor claim, again the UN has made it since these people have been put to work by the military in the region with no pay, sub human living conditions, and worked till they drop dead, and it has been this way for a few decades.

A government does not block outside investigators to prove or disprove claims or accusations of ethnic cleansing or genocide UNLESS they have a fucking good reason, such as that is exactly what the hell they are doing.

Of course it is okay for you to accept they are being forced out of a region they and their ancestors have been living in for generations, the majority are Muslim and we all know that you have made many statements concerning the eradication of all Muslims.




Rule -> RE: Myammar Situation (9/19/2017 4:48:23 AM)

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ORIGINAL: jlf1961
As for the forced labor claim, again the UN has made it since these people have been put to work by the military in the region with no pay, sub human living conditions, and worked till they drop dead, and it has been this way for a few decades.

If all the Rohingya had dropped dead, how could there have been any left to rape Buddhist females and to murder Buddhist males?




tweakabelle -> RE: Myammar Situation (9/19/2017 6:00:02 AM)

People might not be aware of the history of Myanmar, which is very relevant to this dispute.

Since the military seized power in 1949, there has been a number of civil wars between the central govt and various ethnic minorities who sought independence from the central govt. Probably the best known is the conflict between the Burmese/Myanmar military and the Shan people. In recent years, alongside the gradual return of government to a limited form of democracy (with the military retaining real power, including a overall veto power they can exercise when they wish) many of these conflicts have been settled.

There has been no attempt to resolve the dispute with the Rohingas as they are not recognised as an ethnic minority they are seen officially as illegal immigrants. Please note that I used the term "dispute" rather than "conflict" as historically, the Rohinagas haven't used violence to further their political aims. In recent years the Burmese military has turned its attention to the Rohingas, encouraged by a popular movement led by Buddhist monks that sought to expel the Rohingas. This has escalated in its intensity and brutality. It was this violent escalation that has caused some Rohingas to resort to armed resistance recently.

Every independent account and observer that I have come across holds the Myanmar military responsible for the escalation of the conflict and its increased brutality. Multiple independent accounts, including some from reliable and respected bodies such as the UN and Amnesty allege that the Myanmar military is engaging in crimes against humanity, genocide, ethnic cleansing, mass rape and other horrors.

Greta's account of the situation in Myanmar borders on fictional. It is clear that her obsessive rampant Islamophobia is the guiding light in her reading of the situation. In fact, the Rohingas are an impoverished, powerless, stateless people, with virtually no political influence who are subject to widespread, relentless, vicious persecution in Myanmar. Their situation mirrors that of the Kurds and Palestinians. They are more than deserving of our support and sympathy.




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