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RE: NFL owners, CEOs respond to Trump comments - 9/28/2017 4:07:49 PM   
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Ahhhhhh yes the good old days, when men were men and poc, lgbtq, children and women were afraidto speak out about abuse.



Coincidentally, your incoherent insane meaningless rambling raises an interesting point

Why wasn't the NFL all whiney SJW snowflake bitch before now, if this is really a free speech issue, and not about the flag


trump
have you not been following along?
He used his free speech on friday night, to denigrate black players kneeling. SOB remember.
oh and "get em off the field, etc you're fired?

The NFL is full of SJW issues and they are ignored or belittled at every turn.
SUbstance abuse, head injuries, domestic violence, rape, gambling, intoxication, what else, im sure you can deride a few more.
etc etc etc.



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RE: NFL owners, CEOs respond to Trump comments - 9/28/2017 4:10:31 PM   
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Seeing all the butt hurt fans burning their shit is hysterical.


That's because leftist trash loves nothing more than bitter identity politics divisions. Tearing old wounds open and keeping the hate alive

The wounds havnt healed, they have been suppurating for decades. You just cant hide it anymore.
you are living proof of it.



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RE: NFL owners, CEOs respond to Trump comments - 9/28/2017 4:15:37 PM   
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Seeing all the butt hurt fans burning their shit is hysterical.


That's because leftist trash loves nothing more than bitter identity politics divisions. Tearing old wounds open and keeping the hate alive


no small irony in that---"protesting" that is easily interpreted as disrespecting the flag and the national anthem is "good."

fans protesting that disrespectful behavior by burning their material possessions linked to the people engaging in it is "hysterical."




Seems some americans view protest as disrespectful, but they are mostly the ones actually disrespecting many americans right to protest, in fact, protesting is enshrined in the constitution And has been done in the US since it started...
While you werent the first to protest...its part of american life, you only notice when it "interrupts" your safe lil life.


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RE: NFL owners, CEOs respond to Trump comments - 9/28/2017 6:00:41 PM   
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They CAN protest in WAYS that EXPONENTIALLY make THEIR POINT!!!!!!!!!!!!

They have CHOSEN NOT TO DO SO!!!

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Another poor triggered white snowflake who can't deal with the uppity negros. Too bad, so sad.

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RE: NFL owners, CEOs respond to Trump comments - 9/29/2017 3:05:43 AM   
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They CAN protest in WAYS that EXPONENTIALLY make THEIR POINT!!!!!!!!!!!!

They have CHOSEN NOT TO DO SO!!!

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Another poor triggered white snowflake who can't deal with the uppity negros. Too bad, so sad.


(If I recall....there are a bunch of whites, Hispanics, Indians....a fairly broad swath of humans taking a knee.....I don't recall it was solely black people).

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RE: NFL owners, CEOs respond to Trump comments - 9/29/2017 4:21:59 AM   
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They CAN protest in WAYS that EXPONENTIALLY make THEIR POINT!!!!!!!!!!!!

They have CHOSEN NOT TO DO SO!!!

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Another poor triggered white snowflake who can't deal with the uppity negros. Too bad, so sad.


another unthinking liberal whackjob who cant help but see raaaaaaaaaaaacism everywhere.

maybe try dealing with cervix's ACTUAL position?

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RE: NFL owners, CEOs respond to Trump comments - 9/29/2017 11:50:23 AM   
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(If I recall....there are a bunch of whites, Hispanics, Indians....a fairly broad swath of humans taking a knee.....I don't recall it was solely black people).

While there people last week other than those darned uppity ungrateful negros taking a knee in solidarity after Cheeto Hitler's asinine proclamation, before that it was just those darned uppity ungrateful negros.

But I'm sure they would be ever so interested in hearing about the other ways to protest that would EXPONENTIALLY make THEIR POINT!!!!!!!

Perhaps you could send them all copies of your latest book?



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RE: NFL owners, CEOs respond to Trump comments - 9/29/2017 12:42:27 PM   
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(If I recall....there are a bunch of whites, Hispanics, Indians....a fairly broad swath of humans taking a knee.....I don't recall it was solely black people).

While there people last week other than those darned uppity ungrateful negros taking a knee in solidarity after Cheeto Hitler's asinine proclamation, before that it was just those darned uppity ungrateful negros.

But I'm sure they would be ever so interested in hearing about the other ways to protest that would EXPONENTIALLY make THEIR POINT!!!!!!!

Perhaps you could send them all copies of your latest book?




Fascinating that the race (of any of the players) wasn't mentioned once....until you did.

I would presume then that, based on your comments, I must also hate Hispanics, Indians, more than likely Jewish people, Norwegians, Germans, Irish...they're all represented in the group that's taking a knee......

Jeeesus fucking God chic....get a life (and a clue).

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RE: NFL owners, CEOs respond to Trump comments - 9/29/2017 12:57:21 PM   
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Fascinating that the race (of any of the players) wasn't mentioned once....until you did.

It wasn't mentioned once? Are you blind?

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I would presume then that, based on your comments, I must also hate Hispanics, Indians, more than likely Jewish people, Norwegians, Germans, Irish...they're all represented in the group that's taking a knee......

It's clear by the batshit nuttery you regularly post that you presume a great many things that have no base whatsoever in reality. The idiocy is strong in you.

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Jeeesus fucking God chic....get a life (and a clue).

It's a shame you don't endeavor to follow your own advice.

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RE: NFL owners, CEOs respond to Trump comments - 9/29/2017 1:55:56 PM   
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Just out of interest, are all violent incidents at "football" matches since this storm in a teacup was brewed up being spun as antifa riots now?


Thanks for giving that one away to people who have to allow extra time in the morning to figure out which boot goes on which foot.

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RE: NFL owners, CEOs respond to Trump comments - 9/29/2017 2:38:42 PM   
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The conversation has been about what Kapaernik did, not about why he did it.


One of several completely fatuous notions that I'm sure Kaepernik took into consideration well before he decided to take the action that he did.

It's obvious to me now that he took that 'see no evil' attitude as described and displayed (e.g in your post) throughout all of history, and American history in particular (in this case), into account.

To claim that it's "not about why he did it" is just another episode of willful ignorance that got us to this point in the first place. Just read the responses here and everywhere else on the subject.

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RE: NFL owners, CEOs respond to Trump comments - 9/29/2017 3:01:57 PM   
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Sigh, an overpaid overpriviledged football player . . .


I might easily make the same argument about Hollywood actors and producers, and hedge fund managers and commodities traders, being as they make 10X- 100X what the highest-paid NFL players make, but that's just me.

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Is that a good enough summary?
Not quite.

Unlike the examples I stated above, pro athletes have to have real talent to begin with, and after that have to work seriously hard to even get on the field. And measure of their performance is far more demonstrable and accounted for than is the case with bad actors with pretty faces or awfully bad CEOs with creative accountants and PR departments.





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RE: NFL owners, CEOs respond to Trump comments - 9/29/2017 4:00:13 PM   
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The most celebrated versions of The Star Spangled Banner have been performed by amazing black musicians. Jimi Hendrix at Woodstock and Whitney Houston at the Superbowl in 1991.

Didn't a lot of "patriots" find Hendrix's distorted reverbed and generally fuzzed into psychedellia version just as offensive as Roseanne Barr's rendition?


Not a lot, no. Hardly any, truth be known.

Hendrix was only ever a niche market, hardly known much about while here. Not many, if any, "patriots" ever knew of his existence at the time.

Hendrix didn't have a long-running sitcom, Roeanne did. So there we are. No matter how far we pretend to go along, the media hegemony has it that sitcom stars carry more wight in culture. The very core of it, in fact. You know you've seen the same at BBC, don't lie.








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RE: NFL owners, CEOs respond to Trump comments - 9/29/2017 6:09:32 PM   
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RE: NFL owners, CEOs respond to Trump comments - 9/29/2017 6:12:57 PM   
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You're a moron. Straight from the asses mouth:

Colin Kaepernick: I won't stand 'to show pride in a flag for a country that oppresses Black people'

It's all about disrespecting the flag, the anthem, and the nation

Enjoy your brainwash though. A mind-numbed useful idiot is all you will ever be

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RE: NFL owners, CEOs respond to Trump comments - 9/29/2017 6:39:29 PM   
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President Donald Trump, while speaking at a political rally Friday, said NFL fans should boycott games and team owners should fire players who fail to stand for the national anthem prior to games.

NFL Commissioner Roger Goodell and NFLPA Executive Director DeMaurice Smith both released statements early Saturday responding to the president's comments.

And throughout Saturday, NFL owners and CEOs responded as well, releasing statements disagreeing with President Trump's remarks.

New York Giants owners John Mara and Steve Tisch:
"Comments like we heard last night from the president are inappropriate, offensive and divisive. We are proud of our players, the vast majority of whom use their NFL platform to make a positive difference in our society."

Miami Dolphins owner and founder of Ross Initiative in Sports for Equality (RISE) Stephen Ross:
"Our country needs unifying leadership right now, not more divisiveness. We need to seek to understand each other and have civil discourse instead of condemnation and sound bites. I know our players who kneeled for the anthem and these are smart young men of character who want to make our world a better place for everyone. They wanted to start a conversation and are making a difference in our community, including working with law enforcement to bring people together. We all can benefit from learning, listening and respecting each other. Sports is a common denominator in our world. We all have the responsibility to use this platform to promote understanding, respect and equality."

San Francisco 49ers CEO Jed York:
"The callous and offensive comments made by the president are contradictory to what this great country stands for. Our players have exercised their rights as United States citizens in order to spark conversation and action to address social injustice. We will continue to support them in their peaceful pursuit of positive change in our country and around the world. The San Francisco 49ers will continue to work toward bringing communities, and those who serve them, closer together."

Green Bay Packers Packers President/CEO Mark Murphy:
"It's unfortunate that the president decided to use his immense platform to make divisive and offensive statements about our players and the NFL. We strongly believe that players are leaders in our communities and positive influences. They have achieved their positions through tremendous work and dedication and should be celebrated for their success and positive impact. We believe it is important to support any of our players who choose to peacefully express themselves with the hope of change for good. As Americans, we are fortunate to be able to speak openly and freely."

Atlanta Falcons Owner and Chairman Arthur Blank:
"We are at our very best when we are working together, building unity and including everyone's voice in a constructive dialogue. Creating division or demonizing viewpoints that are different than our own accomplishes nothing positive and undermines our collective ability to achieve the ideals of our democracy. The NFL has historically been a strong catalyst for positive change and I'm proud of the way our players, coaches and staff use that platform to give back to our community and strive to be good citizens making a positive impact on this and future generations."

Tennessee Titans Controlling Owner Amy Adams Strunk:
"I am proud to stand with our players and support them in their work on and off the football field. I completely agree with Commissioner Goodell that we are better off as a nation when we are unified and pulling together. I have seen that kind of attitude first-hand in Tennessee and across our country in the many benevolent and public-spirited efforts of our NFL players, often without any public recognition.

"Our players make public contributions day-in and day-out and when I hear anyone making disparaging remarks about them, I know it has to be the result of not knowing what they bring to our communities or what they have accomplished."

Los Angeles Chargers Owner/Chairman of the Board Dean Spanos:
"I wholeheartedly agree with the commissioner's statement. The NFL and its players, more than anything, have been a force for good. What our country needs right now is a message of unity, civility and mutual respect."

Philadelphia Eagles Chairman and CEO Jeffrey Lurie:
"The best of us lend our compassion and determination to the aid of others.

"Every day I see the genuine dedication and hard work of our players. And I support them as they take their courage, character and commitment into our communities to make them better or to call attention to injustice. Having spoken with our players, I can attest to the great respect they have for the national anthem and all it represents. We at the Philadelphia Eagles firmly believe that in this difficult time of division and conflict, it is more important than ever for football to be a great unifier."

Denver Broncos President/CEO Joe Ellis:
"Our players have shown a tremendous commitment to raising awareness for important societal issues by using their platform in a positive way.

"In addition to their hard work off the field, we have great admiration for their dedication to making our team the absolute best it can be. They've made incredible sacrifices to reach this level, and we recognize they give their all to our team and fans each and every day.

"As an organization, we could not be more proud, appreciative and grateful for our players. We'll continue to support them and work together to advocate for values of respect, diversity and inclusion."

Buffalo Bills Owners Terry and Kim Pegula:
"Several of us met tonight -- players, coaches, staff, and ownership. Our goal was to provide open dialogue and communication. We listened to one another. We believe it's the best way to work through any issue we are facing -- on and off the field.

"President Trump's remarks were divisive and disrespectful to the entire NFL community, but we tried to use them as an opportunity to further unify our team and our organization.

"Our players have the freedom to express themselves in a respectful and thoughtful manner and we all agreed that our sole message is to provide and to promote an environment that is focused on love and equality."

Indianapolis Colts Owner Jim Irsay:
"I am troubled by the president's recent comments about our league and our players. Sports in America have the unique ability to bring people from all walks of life and from different points of view together to work toward or root for a common goal, and the Indianapolis Colts are proud to be a part of that tradition in our home city and state.

"The vast majority of players in the NFL -- especially those who have worn and continue to wear the Horseshoe -- have donated millions of dollars to charities, raised money for those affected by recent hurricanes, created charitable foundations, visited schools, mentored students, worked in homeless shelters, cleaned up parks, and put in hours of their personal time toward improving their communities and the lives of those around them.

"That's the spirit in which this nation was founded, and we all need to work tirelessly to bring people together to take on the challenges that face us and give back to the people of our communities. More so than any result on the field, that is a common goal worth rooting for."

Seattle Seahawks President Peter McLoughlin:
"We fully support our players' use of their freedom of speech and peaceful action to highlight the existing racial and other divides in our country. Our players completely respect the military and veterans of our country; however, they believe these issues need to come to the forefront."



Personally, I find "taking a knee" during the national anthem to be disrespectful to our flag and our country. That being said...

1) I support anyone's right to protest however he/she chooses (as long as he/she is not hurting anyone else in any substantive way)
2) I see it on TV, and move on. I usually got so egging from the fridge when it is happening
3) The CONSTANT whining in the right about this is hilarious. It is all over Fox News. It is one big snowflake pity party. Tucker Carlson really cracks me up. I want to hand him a towel to cry into.

People do things all the time with which I do not agree. I don't whine about it like a scorned schoolgirl. Fox News should be renamed "Whine News"

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RE: NFL owners, CEOs respond to Trump comments - 9/29/2017 7:20:33 PM   
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Colin Kaepernick: I won't stand 'to show pride in a flag for a country that oppresses Black people'

It's all about disrespecting the flag, the anthem, and the nation


So just explain to the audience here ('splain, Lucy!) how shooting unarmed US citizens constitutes "respecting the flag" or especially the US Constitution?

Oh, but that was 'Marxist' of me to even ask, do I have that right?

Your approach to the matter seems a lot more fascist than Democratic, and certainly against the US Constitution.

The foundation of our country was based upon allowance of dissent and providing avenue thereby, even to elective office.

Did Kaepernik burn the flag or something?

What utter wusses we have become.

US athletes held a fist to the air in front of the whole world in protest of numerous US civil rights issues in the Summer Olympics in 1968.

We didn't crumble. The world wondered what was going on, but everybody took notice. We addressed the issues in however imperfect fashion, but we didn't scream like a girl, like Trump does, and induces all of his followers to do.

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RE: NFL owners, CEOs respond to Trump comments - 9/30/2017 9:13:29 AM   
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You're a moron. Straight from the asses mouth:

Colin Kaepernick: I won't stand 'to show pride in a flag for a country that oppresses Black people'

It's all about disrespecting the flag, the anthem, and the nation

Enjoy your brainwash though. A mind-numbed useful idiot is all you will ever be

Since you've already shown yourself repeatedly to, like Drax, not understand metaphor,
I'm not surprised you don't understand symbolism either.

America. Land of the proudly dumb.

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RE: NFL owners, CEOs respond to Trump comments - 9/30/2017 9:15:44 AM   
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Let's see . . .

Taking a knee during the National Anthem -- disrespectful, terrible, should be fired.
Marching with Nazi flags shouting racist slogans while carrying firearms -- just a routine protest.

Flat out reality, however much people want to howl...

It's entirely about racism.

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